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If they were really going to make the DS4 a Wii-U ripoff, wouldn't they at that point just bundle a Vita with every PS4 and call it the controller? OK, so you lose a set of triggers, but you get front and back touchscreens and an accelerometer!

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Which are all terrible replacements for the shoulder buttons, while the screen on the controller barely adds anything worthwhile to the experience unless you've got somebody in your house who doesn't allow you to play games on the telly. I'd prefer a decent controller instead of some costly gimmick.

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As has already been said, the Vita costs £215 on its own. Doesn't leave much room in the £400 console budget for, y'know, the actual console…

The 3G one costs about $160 to manufacture, the WiFi one a bit less. I've seen them bundled with a game for £130! Sony are mental, the Vita is exhibit A. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it bundled as the controller, except for the lack of a biometric gimmick holding it back.

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Which are all terrible replacements for the shoulder buttons, while the screen on the controller barely adds anything worthwhile to the experience unless you've got somebody in your house who doesn't allow you to play games on the telly. I'd prefer a decent controller instead of some costly gimmick.

So you don't have friends come round for some same screen multiplayer either?

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You don't need two screens for most social stuff.

I know I know I know that people desperately don't want to admit it - but having your own screen when doing what would normally require a split screen in same room multiplayer is actually really quite good. Honest. It does make the game, shock, better!

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Mario Kart and that sonic racing game are the only ones I can think of that don't suck. Most FPS/racing games only really come to life with a full amount of players.

do I need to write a list?

Sure, if it can beat Joffo's.

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Mario Kart and that sonic racing game are the only ones I can think of that don't suck. Most FPS/racing games only really come to life with a full amount of players.

Sure, if it can beat Joffo's.

But the games that are made better with the second screen get added on to Joffo's list, thus making the machine better for offline multiplayer.
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So you don't have friends come round for some same screen multiplayer either?

Most of the stuff is either split-screen or same screen like Streets of Rage remake. No problem there. And if I want a second screen, which isn't often, I simply put the my gameroom telly next to the living room telly.

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Trying to judge the worth of the Wii U's second screen for local multiplayer by looking at games that came before is probably a little pointless. There could be some great advantages of having that secret screen of your own while others play on the main TV; Nintendo Land was great fun because of that secrecy (alonside the still-hilarious novelty of seeing the gamepad user's face) and the way it encouraged vocal co-operation. I'm sure we'll see some more great stuff from Nintendo of that ilk.

I'm sold on the Wii U's gamepad screen through Miiverse sketches alone, though, even though there's no games to make me really want one yet.

I'd completely shifted to online multiplayer for this gen, and for the most part really enjoyed it (Even though it meant I barely played any single player games to completion) but playing Street Fighter locally and recently getting 4 players together for Hidden In Plain Sight reminded me of just how much more enjoyable it is to play games that way. To the extent that my next venture online felt a bit flat and lonely. I ended up killing myself because of it, in fact.

Also, what are we even talking about? I think the Next Gen is going have a giant GPU and all of the RAM and be always online; it'll be locked to 4k resolution and all games will be 60fps at least. The launch titles will be Blinx and The Bouncer 2.

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I feel like the Wii U local multiplayer, fun as some modes may be, is limited by the fact of one controller being markedly different from the others. It might enable you to make some interesting game modes, but they're a product of limitations and circumstance as much as they are a feature or selling point. Personally I'm most interested in the Wii U for the singleplayer experiences you won't be able to get anywhere else, I'm just waiting for either a price drop or a must-have game.

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