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SMD

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Graeme Souness: "He's won whatever that Europe cup is called. He's won the league in Portugal which isn't that hard, and he's too young to command the respect aswell."

Way to piss on a guys entire career.

Yeah Souness knows just how easy it is to win the Portuguese league. :coffee:

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dizogg

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Has anybody else read these odd rumours about Richard Keys?

Is it untrue twitter rumours about a man who is now irrelevant to football doing things that are irrelevant to football? Take it to the Heat thread.

(I don't actually know what rumours you are referring to, just to avoid confusion)

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Daley

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http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/06/real-madrid-and-financial-fair-play.html

The excellent Swiss Ramble guy does Real Madrid. It's massive even by his standards.

But to cut a very long story short:

The fact is that Real Madrid will pass the FFP test as easily as Cristiano Ronaldo goes past a tiring full-back. In fact, their remarkable ability to generate revenue will stand them in very good stead in the fair play era, providing them with a strong competitive advantage. As long as they can resist the urge to constantly change their manager and players, that financial strength could help them return to winning ways. If that happens, then it might be another case of the rich getting richer, as that is likely to translate into even more commercial success.

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Daley

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That is massively surprising, actually. You would think spending those vast sums on players would be an issue, but the club is clearly a money making machine.

I still haven't read it all but the TV money that they and Barca get on their own is amazing.

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Even though Madrid have been remarkably successful in producing a balanced revenue model, broadcasting revenue still provides them (and Barcelona) with a key competitive advantage over their foreign counterparts, thanks to their lucrative domestic deal. For example, Manchester United generated €31 million less than Madrid, even though they received €19 million more in Champions League distributions.

Unlike all the other major European leagues which employ a form of collective selling, Spanish clubs uniquely market their broadcast rights on an individual basis, so Madrid’s seven-year contract with Mediapro is worth a guaranteed €1.1 billion. According to the respected website Futebol Finance, this was worth €140 million in 2009/10, the same as Barcelona, and more than three times as much as the nearest competitors, Valencia and Atletico Madrid, with €42 million, followed by Villarreal €25 million and Sevilla €24 million.

In other words, Madrid and Barcelona on their own received around half of the total TV money in La Liga or 12 times as much as the €12 million given to the last clubs on the list (Malaga, Sporting Gijon, Tenerife and Xerez). This produces the most uneven playing field in Europe and compares unfavourably to the 1.5 multiple in the Premier League between first and last clubs.

Looked at another way, both Madrid and Barcelona received about twice as much from their domestic deal as Premier League champions Manchester United, even after a significant increase in the latest English deal. However, in stark contrast, West Ham, the team that finished bottom of the Premier League, received more money than Valencia, who finished third in the Spanish league.

Some amazing stuff in there.

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Sirloin

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Is that sustainable though? Spain don't have collective bargaining do they? All it will take is a few clubs starting to kick back against that and there could be trouble. Particularly as more and more foreign owners are coming in and they will be keen to increase their income.

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I thought there was already a movement towards collective bargaining and there was going to be a fairer distribution of money in the future, admittedly still massively in Barcas/Reals favour. Anybody know what has happened to that?

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Daley

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Is that sustainable though? Spain don't have collective bargaining do they? All it will take is a few clubs starting to kick back against that and there could be trouble. Particularly as more and more foreign owners are coming in and they will be keen to increase their income.

The backlash has already started.

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A banner unveiled before Depor (who went down this year) lost 4-0 at home to Barca. I think it's "we don't want another Scottish league."

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a big boy

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It shouldn't be sustainable. Unfortunately it is because enough of the second tier clubs like Valencia and Atletico are content with the status quo as it gives them an advantage over the rest of La Liga in chasing the CL money for them to carry on voting for it, as they did earlier last season.

Nice article on Villa-Boas. I almost wouldn't mind seeing Chelsea win the CL under him just to spite Mourinho.

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Dorus is a great keeper. We will replace him. I'm more worried about losing Rangel seeing as Taylor is signing for Newcastle tomorrow.

I've never known a club to go through a summer of turmoil after getting promoted. I shouldn't bee shocked though, we always do things the hard way.

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