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I sent off my psu to microsoft a couple of years back as part of that recall due to fire risk and have never got another one back :(

I have found a 24v psu from an old mac monitor which may work, gonna give it a go but I would still like microsoft to sort it out as I only used the wheel a few times with the force feedback :(

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When you do and your wife tells you to get rid of the lot, I'll take the... zebra off you :unsure:

Well, thankfully marriage is a few years off for me yet and my girlfriend knew exactly what she was signing up for when we got together. Shes understanding and lets me get on with it. Recently I've even got her playing co-op Left 4 Dead. Good times :D

I've already got a cinema/gaming room planned when I finish my degree and we get a place (doing the mature student thing!). She just lets me get on with it now, it makes her life easier haha.

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In other news, there's definitely an issue with my CSR Pedals. For some reason the brake keeps blipping for a split second. This is highly annoying because in the menu, it makes the messages panel keep popping up and in the game it makes the car brake but it's enough to loose momentum. Not quite sure what to do, anyone have any ideas?

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I don't think it's a case of sensitivity as I can be no where near it when it happens. After checking the telemetary the brake comes on almost full strength for just a split second. I tried connecting it to the PC and there's no issues whatsoever so I tried connecting the other PS2 cable and for a while it seemed to mostly fix the problem, however it seems to have come back again.

I have no idea what to do.

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Vic or Harns, can you point me into the direction on where and how to order the CRS wheel please? I can't see an 'order now' button anywhere on the Fanatec site.

http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=110〈=en <-- Select your country, which I'm guessing is the Netherlands, then click the wheel and it should give you a list of options.

I shall email them. It's not a deal breaker but it is a bit annoying. I don't really want to have to send it back though, what a pain in the ass! :facepalm:

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Zoink!

No force feedback, but it's got to be worth £50 surely? Someone convince me not to buy one, stat.

Mad Catz stuff has been excellent lately, ever since the SF4 fightstick they've been committed to good quality peripherals and they've largely delivered on that promise.

"Dispatch within one month" isn't very promising though.

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More impressions please...

i'd have liked to wait for the elite but couldn't justify double the price.

CSR arrived on friday, played some forza4/wrc2/dirt3 on the xbox not tried it on ps3/PC yet. at first i was a bit disapointed, it felt quite stiff compared to the G25 but in-game it feels fine, and there seemed to be a lack of feedback in the centre but got used to it now and think it's really good. i like being able to set it to just 270 degrees only (and all the in-wheel adjustable stuff is cool). feedback effects are a lot stronger than the MS wheel. the table clamp is better than i was expecting, i'd read it was crap (well GT2 one) but it seems to be working fine here. the grips on the wheel are really good but it's a shame they don't go up further and the material for the top of the wheel isn't great. flappy paddles are high quality (something that's not supposed to be too good on the GT2?). only bad point so far seems to be the xbox headset causing echos for other people but need to do some more testing on that, turning the volume down stopped it but then i couldn't hear other people that well, i guess there's a chance it's not caused by the wheel although the headset works fine with the pad. fan noise is whiny/annoying but not too bad you can turn it off so it says in the manual, (edit - read the manual better - it's on max power by default but you can change it to temperature controlled - which sounds much better) not sure if that'll cause overheating or something though.

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So, the wireless speed wheel then.

Been playing with it (steady on Captain le Chuck!) for a couple of days now and.... well, it's almost everything I could have wanted from a pad/wheel compromise. I've been using it primarily with Forza 4 though i have checked out F1 2011 briefly. For Forza I have used the in car view exclusively and the camera pod on F1, I think its possible that it helps to see the drivers hands/position of the wheel but I dunno. It took me a good few sessions before i started to get clean laps in, a lot of the time I'd find myself facing a wall after going into a slide and failing to recover, obviously a lack of feedback in the controller doesn't help so I had to tune into the feedback from the screen and sounds more. Anyway....

First things first, the actual steering is great, it feels far more accurate and satisfying than using a pad, for me anyway, which is exactly what I wanted, especially in F1, which felt a bit too twitchy on a stick. Obviously a regular pad is analogue but i find it too difficult to hold certain lines, with the speed wheel, it's not a problem. Everything seems very responsive, I haven't noticed much in the way of input lag.

The triggers, awesome, much better/granular than the normal pad. The pad itself is super comfortable to hold.

The main downsides are things that have already been brought up. Primarily, the lack of the LB and RB buttons. What the flip were they thinking?! It really misses them, or at least I really miss them. In F1 particularly it's difficult to find a button configuration that works as there aren't enough buttons to assign "essential" controls to. The most galling part of it all is that the wheel looks like it could easily accommodate paddle shifters on the middle stem (where the guide button is) or at least a couple of buttons elsewhere. I have kind of adjusted to gears on the dpad for Forza though. This by far my biggest beef with the controller.

Secondly, the lack of a headphone jack is a right old pisser and no mistake, especially saying as it's fair to say most driving games come alive in mp. Fair do's, you could use a wireless headset but it's an extra £30 or so and I'm not a massive fan of them. I can only assume it was left out because it affected battery life which kind of leads on to my last couple of gripes....

No option to use battery packs, most odd because there appears to be ample room for them.

Aaaaand rumble, it's pretty piss weak, if they could provide the same standard of rumble that you get in a normal controller I think it would improve things immensely.

Oh yeah, lastly, back/neck ache. It happens. When I play i tend to sit forward with my elbows on my knees, immediately in front of the screen. My arms don't ache from using the pad but my back and shoulders felt a bit achey after a while. I'm talking after 3-4 hours play.

So there you go, reading that back it sounds like I hate the thing but that couldn't be further from the truth, I think I just feel a little frustrated that they've got the makings of a really good driving pad that has fallen short in a couple of areas.

Edit: one caveat, the cars that I've been using in F4 have been fairly bog standard so far so I dunno how things will fair with faster cars. I did take a suped up Audi R8 round Maple Valley early on into my speed wheel experience. It didn't go well. :)

Edit2: Another problem that I've just discovered: if the speed wheel gets turned off/goes idle and shuts itself down while you're still playing forza4, when you turn it back on again it recognises the controller as the original MS steering wheel. I can't figure a way of rectifying that other than bouncing back to the dash and restarting.

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Guys, a mate in work has got F1 for PS3, and is after a cheap(ish) force feedback wheel. Any recommendations for around £50?

I don't think he'll get one with proper FFB for that money. For a little more he could get the Logitech Driving Force GT, or going up to £100 ish he could get a G25 or G27.

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I'm assuming this was left over from the whole wheel set? The pedals just draw power from whatever wheel it's plugged into, right?

yeah you won't need the power for the pedals :)

i'm really liking the new wheel but noticed another maybe problem - it doesn't seem to centre quite right, i've brifly tried to do it manually but it didn't seem to work, i should look into it more but just keep playing instead. my MS wheel never centred properly so i'm used to it.

oh and if anyone plays F1 with one make sure to do this:

"F1 2011 (Xbox 360)

Please reduce the damper setting (dpr: -3) in the Tuning-Menu to ensure the best ForceFeedback experience."

without that it was like the whole thing was stuck in glue.

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yeah you won't need the power for the pedals :)

i'm really liking the new wheel but noticed another maybe problem - it doesn't seem to centre quite right, i've brifly tried to do it manually but it didn't seem to work, i should look into it more but just keep playing instead. my MS wheel never centred properly so i'm used to it.

oh and if anyone plays F1 with one make sure to do this:

"F1 2011 (Xbox 360)

Please reduce the damper setting (dpr: -3) in the Tuning-Menu to ensure the best ForceFeedback experience."

without that it was like the whole thing was stuck in glue.

I have the centering issue sometimes too - turning the wheel off and on a couple of times usually sorts it. Just experiment and it'll be fine. If not you can manually re-center it by putting it in pc mode and centering the wheel, holding the bottom two buttons on the left side of the wheel, then holding the xbox guide button and then releasing all three buttons.

Re the tip for F1 - you have to do that each time you start the game. Just switch the DPR to -2, exit the menu, go back in and change back to -3. The wheel is really hard to turn if you don't do this and it feels like you're breaking the ffb motors!

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I have the centering issue sometimes too - turning the wheel off and on a couple of times usually sorts it. Just experiment and it'll be fine. If not you can manually re-center it by putting it in pc mode and centering the wheel, holding the bottom two buttons on the left side of the wheel, then hoding the xbox guide button and the releasing all three buttons.

cheers for this, i did try the manual re-centre but might have done it wrong, will try again :)

when you turn the wheel on is it only supposed to spin right then back to the centre? i would expect it to spin to both locks (left and right) before going to the centre, but it doesn't.

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cheers for this, i did try the manual re-centre but might have done it wrong, will try again :)

when you turn the wheel on is it only supposed to spin right then back to the centre? i would expect it to spin to both locks (left and right) before going to the centre, but it doesn't.

Nope, it just spins once to full lock and then back to the centre.

Have you got Forza 4 as well as F1? If so, what do you think of the force feedback?

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