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Monkeyspill

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Fans of The Last of Us might be interested in two books by Yves Marchand and Romain Meffre: Ruins of Detroit and Gunkanjima. They're beautiful, glossy photo books of - as you might have guessed - the ruined buildings in Detroit, and Battleship Island, off the coast of Japan, which was a factory island that was abandoned in the 1960s and basically looks like a Japanese brutalist version of Mega City One.

Unfortunately, Ruins of Detroit is going for silly money at the moment (£200+), although they seem to reprint it occasionally, which brings the price right down. Gunkanjima is on sale for £30 though, and is well worth it in my book - it's full of the kind of fascinating vistas of ruination that The Last of Us uses so effectively.

RoD is the better book and the most TLoU-ey (I wouldn't be surprised if they'd used it as reference material for the game), but Gunkanjima is definitely worth your time and money, if you've got £30 lying around:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yves-Marchand-Romain-Meffre-Gunkanjima/dp/3869305460/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0MC1HZGY76JZM9BV5GGF

I've ordered the Gunkanjima one. I love books like that. It's not quite the same but I've also got a Kowloon Walled City book and this http://propagandaphotos.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/memento-mori-peter-mitchell/ lying around somewhere.
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Paulando

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OK, I can see why people like this game so much. I'm making slow progress, probably about half way through it now, but whenever I do play it I play it for quite a while. Naughty Dog just have this ingenious way of taking you through a story without taking you out of the game. You learn about the characters through the little chats they have, while you're playing. It makes the exploration parts more interesting, especially as the characters are pretty well written.

I love Naughty Dog.

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Completed this over the weekend. Is it just me, or is the ending slightly different in the remastered version?

I don’t remember Ellie giving a little speech that directly refers to what happened at the end of the DLC, right before she asks Joel whether he’s been telling her the truth. Admittedly, it’s been a year since I last saw the ending, and the fact that I’ve played the DLC since might mean that the dialogue was more relevant to me – but I don’t remember hearing that the first time round.

That said, it’s still a belter of an ending – although I still think it’s incredibly dark and depressing. Joel is an absolute monster by the end of the game – he shoots an unarmed woman who’s on her knees begging for her life, scotches the hopes of the Fireflies to create a cure for infection, and lies to Ellie afterwards. He has his reasons, and they’re powerful ones, but I’m not sure they justify the carnage.

Anyway, all good stuff. Hard mode didn’t seem any more difficult than Normal – I had more supplies than I could carry by about the halfway mark. Is Survivor much more difficult than Hard?

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The way I read it is that whilst it's still a selfish move, Joel sees no future for the human race. That mankind has only done harm. Creating a cure only creates more power struggles and politics. Best let nature take its course. No one in The Last Of Us does anything for truly altruistic purposes, there's always something to gain, some leverage. But those in power will always be in power (in this case fireflies) and will shit on everyone else. No doubt creating their own little utopia for the high and mighty. Joel is a man of the people. He just believes that people are inherently fucked!

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I definitely didn't see it that way.

For me it's not about humanity, it's all about himself and trying to replace what he's lost and the fact he can't stand to lose Ellie like he lost his daughter. She's become the surrogate and he's not going through that pain again.

It's a near sociopathic decision from him. I think he's about as far from a man of the people as you can get.

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I definitely didn't see it that way.

For me it's not about humanity, it's all about himself and trying to replace what he's lost and the fact he can stand to lose Ellie like he lost his daughter. She's become the surrogate and he's not going through that pain again.

It's a near sociopathic decision from him. I think he's about as far from a man of the people as you can get.

I concur

Joel is looking no further than Joel. He has his daughter back. I don't think for one second he looks at the wider issue and whether the human race deserve to survive. He is entirely selfish

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Hmm, bit of both I reckon.

Yeah, someone has killed his daughter once and he is unwilling to let it happen again. But throughout the game you struggle and fight against pricks and more pricks. By the end of the game it comes as blessed relief when you find yourself facing a group of mumbling infected and think to yourself, 'Ah thank fuck, easy stuff'. You have Bill, Tess, Henry and Sam, so that's four good 'uns out of, what? Hundreds? Thousands? I get the impression, through the Fireflies' needless hostility towards Joel, and the (slightly OTT) paedophilia and cannibalism of David and friends, that ND didn't want us to think humanity was worth saving in the end anyway.

EDIT: Forgot about Tommy and his enclave. But still, we're supposed to question what the worth of a vaccine would be anyway, right? There would still be the threat of other jealous hunter groups, who seem much more violent and volatile than the infected anyway.

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Aaaaaaand completed. 16 hours. A bit on the long side for me personally. I think I was flagging toward the end. Brilliant dialogue. So much better than almost any other game out there. Ultimately you're going from a to b and sneaking around/killing other humans or infected but it's done really really well. I'm glad I finally got round to playing it. Going to try a bit of multiplayer and then into the Trading folder it goes. Definitely one of the best games I've played in the last couple of years though.

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CarloOos

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I don't think there's an ounce of fat from Fall > Spring, but the way that Summer is pretty much the entire length of those three chapters put together that can make it feel a bit gruelling towards the end. That said I don't know what I'd be willing to cut, other than maybe Bill's Ravenholm knock-off which always felt a bit hokey in relation to the rest of the world for me. The game could quite easily go from Boston to Pittsburg without losing too much.

Oh and K, the bit you mentioned was definitely always there.

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Playing through this again and noticed this nice little touch:

I knew that Ellie takes this robot and gives it to Sam later in the game so I wanted to see if I could catch her in the act

What you can't really pick up in the video is that as soon as I turned away I heard a shuffling noise

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Just finished this. WOW, what an incredible journey, I absolutely loved it. I'm very much into my games having a good story and this one was utterly fantastic. The voice acting was great and the character of Ellie is just so amazing :wub:

The fluidity between stealth and combat is great and having the choice to either try and fight through people/infected or take them out silently really helps keep things from getting too repetitive.

I really enjoyed the fact that it wasn't wave and wave and wave of infected ALL the time too. Having humans and infected to fight helped mix it up.

I had some fun with the camera mode too, just messing on with it here and there.

Overall it's a great game and one I think I'll keep rather than sell on. I can definitely see me replaying this again in the future.

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JohnnyNolan

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I'm playing through this on the PS4. I was struggling with the game at various points, but I've bumped the difficulty down to easy now and I'm really enjoying the game.

Pretty much was getting my ass handed to me on a plate in the Capitol building by the clickers. That's when I bumped the difficulty down.

The upside-down shooty bit just before you meet Bill can fuck right off though. Even on easy that took me about 20 attempts to get past that.

I've each Philadelphia now and enjoying fighting through the town towards the bridge.

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I've just picked up TLOU remastered, avoiding as much as I can about the game because of spoilers but I'm totally stuck. I'm still at the start of the game, I've just met Ellie and we have got to head to a tunnel or something. Dunno if anybody can remember this specific bit but I've got to push a dumpster against some scaffolding and then I can climb on top of it and reach a fire escape to progress to the next section. Only it doesn't work. The dumpster has 'locked' into place so I can't move it again which I presume is as intended but I think I've stood on every pixel of that dumpster and pressed every single button and nothing has happened. I've been trying for 20 minutes. Am I missing something?

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