The Kickstarter Group Thread

[idespair]

There's no tax or handling to pay - it says on the Kickstarter page that they will bulk ship all EU orders in one container and distribute from the UK, that way ensuring no worries about customs, etc. Granted, $165 brings it in at around £105/110 but that's a hell of a lot of stuff for your money.

They've said that on the multiple Biohazard packages you will receive multiples of the extra stuff, so we could even go in bulk via the forum and save another £10 each (although you'd have to pay to send them to other forumites, unless they live close by).

[Padlocked]

Oh yeah I forgot that tax bit.

I'll see how much wine I drink in Italy and go from there I think. I need to watch the rules video again because stuff doesn't necessarily equate to fun.

[Wiper]

Aye, I'd forgotten the shipping from the UK thing - and the multiple Biohazard packages bit, too. Pelekophoros (and anyone else close to Nottingham), if you do decide you'd like to go for it just let me know (and what, if any, extras you're after) and I'll change my pledge to a multiple-Biohazard one to suit!

[idespair]

Last chance notice for anyone after a pile of Fantasy miniatures - Mantic Games' Kickstarter ends in approximately 12 hours time and after a rocky start has been pretty successful. They started off without any clear goals or stretch offers so went slowly for almost three weeks, but in the last 10 days started setting stretch goals based around new miniatures and suddenly the whole thing took off. There's some nice concept art based around a Celestial Army of Angels, Armoured Nuns and Paladins alongside more traditional things like Ogres, Trolls & Mummies.

As it stands, they've now committed to producing 16 new units for their Kings of War game and backers at the $100, $175 and $225 levels will receive either a figure from each unit, 13 units, or all 16 units and 5 new hero models on top of whatever else they've pledged the money for.

Kings of War on Kickstarter

[LyonJacques]

So Sedition Wars ended today on $951,254! A triple whammy of Kickstarter fever, McVey hero worship and slick CMON drip marketing:

http://www.wired.com/design/2012/06/coolminiornot-success-kickstarter/

they prised an average of $222 dollars from every backer! It means CMON have (together with zombicide) made $1.73m with prototype videos, concept sketches and the vaguest of delivery schedules. I don't doubt the integrity of the companies I've supported so far, but to date I've backed four projects, spent $500, received diddly squat.... Seas this rich have sooner or later got to attract some sharks.

[Cocky]

The sedition wars kickstarter was a no brainer for me. Prior to it being announced I was considering buying some of the existing sd miniatures at £6 a pop so $100 for the biohazard set looked a good deal before all of the bonuses. I'm not sure I would support a project for such an amount without some previous trading history though.

[Padlocked]

to date I've backed four projects, spent $500, received diddly squat.... Seas this rich have sooner or later got to attract some sharks.

Ace of Spies - funded 20 June 2012, $37.50 (split backing) expected Jan 2013

Mobile Frame Zero - funded 11 April 2012, $25, expected June 2012

Agents Of SMERSH - funded 19 March 2012, $120, expected September 2012

Farmageddon - funded 4 March 2012, $29, expected July 2012

Bhaloidam - funded 1 November 2011, $54, expected June 2012

Out of all of those I've had the print and play version of Farmageddon. There are games on there now that I fancy (notably the card game by te SMERSH designer, which is a separate rant altogether) but in holding off until all of these are in my hands now.

I was chatting to the guy at Shire Games and it'll be interesting how long this lasts. He apparently had a fair few customers who'd been less than impressed by what they got after a long wait and an import charge so I'm focusing on other things right now. Ace Of Spies got a pass because I played it and it was ace - not every other designer has that pipe to my brain.

Interestingly, I wonder where pro companies using Kickstarter leaves the small retail chains. On one game alone that's $1million dollars removed from the retail channel and a hug devaluation of the final retail product to boot.

[Cocky]

Interestingly, I wonder where pro companies using Kickstarter leaves the small retail chains. On one game alone that's $1million dollars removed from the retail channel and a hug devaluation of the final retail product to boot.

I'm wondering how long I will take to paint all of the figures included in the biohazard set. For a relatively small outlay I could have enough hobby material to last me months, maybe an entire year.

[Padlocked]

I'm wondering how long I will take to paint all of the figures included in the biohazard set. For a relatively small outlay I could have enough hobby material to last me months, maybe an entire year.

And when they release the inevitable expansion packs, how much market will there actually be at retail? Or is this the potential future of board game distribution?

[moosegrinder]

I wonder about the quality of things when they finally show up. I really want the Pixel Lincoln game, but I've funded far too much in the last 2 months, plus there's the Dear Mr Watterson documentary I want to fund, GNNNNN.

[Cocky]

And when they release the inevitable expansion packs, how much market will there actually be at retail? Or is this the potential future of board game distribution?

I guess there are a lot of questions that have been raised by the success of this project and we'll have to wait to see if coolminiornot can deliver. One thing for certain is that there is a lot of pressure to produce a quality product. I know this is a board game but the big sell is the miniatures and high quality plastics aren't cheap. With both GW and Privateer Press releasing new starter sets in the Autumn the competition is going to be fierce.

This being the only kickstarter project I've followed I'm wondering if the number of goals and subsequent bonuses is common or an exception and if expectations on future projects will be set much higher because of sedition wars.

[Rev]

Nothing specific yet, but I thought people might be interested to know that Kickstarter is officially coming to the UK in Autumn. They announced it on their twitter yesterday.

[Treble]

Excellent. My two main issues with the KSs I've funded have been the high cost of delivery from the States, and the time spent waiting for that delivery. Hopefully a UK one will cut down on costs and speed things up in general!

[Rev]

Yeah, hopefully it'll really take off.

[moosegrinder]

Gary Games (makes of Ascension) have a Kickstarter up for Solforge, a digitial trading card game that is apparently going to be free

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1965800643/solforge-digital-trading-card-game?ref=discover_pop

The bar is pretty high at $250,000 but it seems to have started strong. It sounds like a good concept and it's got some heavy hitting names in the world of Magic and CCGs on board (including Richard Garfield). I'll be keeping an eye on it.

[Rev]

That'll easily get funded, it sounds great. If they makes the cards pennies rather than pounds and the actual game is good (which really, it ought to be) I think they've really got something. The transforming cards is so simple, but it'll really make a difference compared to other card games being translated digitally.

[Padlocked]

150+ miniatures for $125 plus import duties:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min

[LyonJacques]

I was just wondering if anyone wants to go halves on that one

Or thirds even? it's a ton of figures..

[Padlocked]

I was tempted, but after getting hit for £20 import duties on a $60 package ($76 including postage), I'm a little worried, and I have about 300 figures I already need to paint.

On the other hand, PILE AS BIG AS MY HEAD.

[tcharliel]

Thanks for the tipoff Pelekophoros, I've just made my pledge. With this and the Mantic kickstarter I'll be filling up my shed nicely with a mound of unpainted models.

[the_buddha_of_gaming]

That looks incredible. I'm still waiting for my Zombicide kickstarter to arrive but there's no way I could let this pass.

[LyonJacques]

Mantic's 'let's rip off the the stuff Games Workshop has forgotten it even did' tactics are now beyond parody... but it does look like a fun game

http://www.kickstart...tic-sports-game

[LyonJacques]

150+ miniatures for $125 plus import duties:

http://www.kickstart...n-of-gaming-min

I crumbled in the end when they added the big Cthulu for $10 and said you could swap out the lead sophie for $25 credit, which equalled free postage... I am weak :/ Still don't need half of it so come march I'll be offering you guys first dibs 

[JoeK]

Mantic's 'let's rip off the the stuff Games Workshop has forgotten it even did' tactics are now beyond parody... but it does look like a fun game

http://www.kickstart...tic-sports-game

Wish they'd get some half-decent painters on their models though. There's actually a fair few Mantic figs which look half-decent, but they always do such average jobs (nothing especially bad, just dull) on them.

[LaParka]

I think i'd rather buy a current game from Mantic than a game shunned by GW. After the way they treated the fans who helped develop the living rulebook, i've only bought third party figures too.

[Cocky]

Wish they'd get some half-decent painters on their models though. There's actually a fair few Mantic figs which look half-decent, but they always do such average jobs (nothing especially bad, just dull) on them.

I suspect that's deliberate as it makes them less intimidating to people that want to play mass battles without spending a lot of money which is what Mantic are for. But yeah the warpath stuff is sculpted by Remy Tremblay and is pretty cool.

Edit - to stay on topic there are a couple of projects I'm keeping an eye on

Wreckage:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hyacinthgames/a-tabletop-rpg-and-board-games-project-from-chicag?ref=live

It's another post apocalyptic setting but I think the models have an interesting design.

Fanticide

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1117201778/fanticide-a-tabletop-fantasy-skirmish-game?ref=category

A skirmish wargame written by Rick Priestly, Andy Chambers and Alessio Cavatore.

[LaParka]

Fanticide looks good. As does Priestly's other new game Bolt Action.

[Wiper]

Fanticide looks very good, yes. The shipping costs are putting me off it, though - $140 for the rules and one warband doesn't seem so brilliant a price point, and the fact that all of the sets with multiple warbands come with only one rulebook makes doubling up with someone less doable

[Arn X Treme]

I didn't see this posted here already but apologies if it has been,

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/relic-knights

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A brand new science fiction miniatures game full of over the top anime action!

• Launched: Aug 7, 2012
  
• Funding ends: Sep 9, 2012
  
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  Remind Me
  

Important notice: All miniatures supplied unpainted and may require some assembly.

Relic Knights ™ Darkspace Calamity is a fast-paced strategy battle game by Soda Pop Miniatures and published by CoolMiniOrNot, for 2 or more players, pitting the heroic forces of the Relic Knights against each other in a battle for survival and the fate of the galaxy

Take control of one of 6 factions with wonderfully detailed miniatures, as you use a unique card draw mechanic to power your special abilities and defenses!

Each game lasts about an hour for the Faction Starter size, and how you manage your abilities and resources (represented by the Esper Cards) will determine the fate of the universe! Bluff your way to victory, or hide your strength till the critical moment - it's fast paced strategy and anime action!

Made from high grade plastic, each wonderfully detailed miniature demonstrates the craft and care that Soda Pop Miniatures has put into bringing its anime themed world alive with its highly detailed heroes, minions, monsters, and machines that make up the Relic Knights Universe.

Augment your forces with heroes and warriors to fight even bigger battles, as the universe of play expands. Easy to collect, fun to play, wonderful to paint, Relic Knights has something for everybody.

Kickstarter objectives - Relic Knights is the first game created by Soda Pop Miniatures, which has been outshone by its younger smash hit sibling Super Dungeon Explore! It's time that the bigger brother gets some love! If funding is successful we'll be able to greatly accelerate the pace of sculpting, and now all six factions will be in high grade plastic!

What you need to play

• One Faction Starter per player (includes play deck and tokens)
  
• One set of rules (you can share)
  
• Love of over the top anime action!
  

Here's a short video we shot at Gencon, which covers the key aspects of Relic Knights, with its diceless mechanic, and its unique activation sequence. And of course, Rin Farrah doesn't hurt it at all...

All SIX FACTIONS have now been unlocked! Check out the new unlocks below!

Next stretch.... EX PLus!

Each Optional faction pack gets extra figures!

If we hit $350k, Each Optional faction pack gets new stuff!

The Savior, Double Savior, and Gotta Catch Em All pledge levels have 2, 4 and 6 Special Edition Miniatures included free respectively.

We're going to unlock more choices for you as we hit our higher rewards, so you have more to choose from. These are for Kickstarter and conventions only and won't be available for general resale. $10 today will get you any extras you need beyond your allocation of 2, 4 or 6!

Get them now, we expect to sell these at conventions for $15 each, and probably won't make anymore when they're done!

[moosegrinder]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dreadball-the-futuristic-sports-game?ref=home_social

Speedball meets Bloodbowl anyone?