The Capcom 5

[NEG]

Viewtiful Joe

Resident Evil 4

P.N. 03

Killer 7

?

So then. Capcom really put support for GC. Even before The Capcom 5 with REmake and RE0. Seems though they're slightly pissed off ( particulerly the VJ producer ) at not reaching the targets they wanted to reach. Which is a shame. For once they really gave games with unique ideas support, yet it shows that without a already known franchise it just won't sell.

Well...RE 4 will sell, but by the time that arrives...

( NEG )

[Ebisumaru]

Well, it's better than being branded sequal-whores though. Isn't it?

[NEG]

Well, it's better than being branded sequal-whores though. Isn't it?

::coughEAcough::

Of course. If anything I guess it shows new ideas are not taken lightly. On the other end though, you could say tiny joe can only play so many fifa games before growing bored and wanting something more.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Capcom should have known it would be a risk to develop for a system with a relatively small userbase known for it's loyalty to first-party titles only. I just hope the relative success of games like Viewtiful Joe (both critically and commercially quite succesful in the US) at least shows original, fresh games can be profitable and worthwhile. And then develop them on a bigger platform like the PS2, on which you have a huge userbase and therefore a better chance to sell enough copies to make a profit.

[Ebisumaru]

Capcom should have known it would be a risk to develop for a system with a relatively small userbase

That's a bit controversial, isn't it?

[DarhkFox]

The 5th game was Phoenix something. I believe that was cacelled though.

Still, we have had other capcom games but i dont think they were exclusive.

[dam_aks]

Dead Phoenix

[layten]

Dead Phoenix

Indeed.

[scottcr]

Capcom should have known it would be a risk to develop for a system with a relatively small userbase known for it's loyalty to first-party titles only. I just hope the relative success of games like Viewtiful Joe (both critically and commercially quite succesful in the US) at least shows original, fresh games can be profitable and worthwhile. And then develop them on a bigger platform like the PS2, on which you have a huge userbase and therefore a better chance to sell enough copies to make a profit.

'cept.. the producer of VJ stated that he reckons that VJ would not have sold on the PS2 given it's bloated software library of other titles that would eclipse VJ. Also, the majority of PS2 owners aren't really interested in games like VJ and would much rather play Medal of Honor... From what I've heard, worldwide, Joe has sold better than expected.

Afaik, Joe sold well on Cube, as did RE(make). I've got all 3 of the games so far and I love them all. Looking forward to RE4.

I reckon it would not have sold as well on the PS2 or Xbox and the cube was the best vehicle for Joe.

[ryodi]

I thought the missing game was Red Dead Revolver?

[Goose]

I couldn't quote you figures, but I was under the impression that both RE-Make and Zero had underperfomed worldwide.

Wasn't there a statement in which Capcom had voiced their disappointment with the sales of both those titles?

[Goose]

I thought the missing game was Red Dead Revolver?

I think that was a PS2 title the was scrapped but recently ressurected.

[NEG]

Lets see..apart from those 5, other GC only capcom titles are:

REmake

RE 0

Mega Man Network something

I swear there were a few others. Capcom VS Snk 2: EO was bumped up for GC by adding the EO ism. And since capcom didn't release a single fighting game during the N64 period for that reason alone I'm happy about CVS2.

[The Grand Pursuivant]

Lets see..apart from those 5, other GC only capcom titles are:

REmake

RE 0

Mega Man Network something

I swear there were a few others. Capcom VS Snk 2: EO was bumped up for GC by adding the EO ism. And since capcom didn't release a single fighting game during the N64 period for that reason alone I'm happy about CVS2.

REmake 2 and 3. I saw them in the shops once for £30. What a rip-off.

[NEG]

Lets see..apart from those 5, other GC only capcom titles are:

REmake

RE 0

Mega Man Network something

I swear there were a few others. Capcom VS Snk 2: EO was bumped up for GC by adding the EO ism. And since capcom didn't release a single fighting game during the N64 period for that reason alone I'm happy about CVS2.

REmake 2 and 3. I saw them in the shops once for £30. What a rip-off.

Those were not remakes ::kick::

More like direct ports of the DC/PS versions.

Hence not exactly GC only.

I saw both of em bundled for £40, tempting...but another day methinks.

[Lazychu]

I saw both of em bundled for £40, tempting...but another day methinks.

Tempting at £40?

Both at £10/15 and they might have a deal.

You can get REmake for a tenner now anyway.

Still, good for Capcom for having the balls (and possibly naivety) to publish those 4 exclusives, .even if 2 of them are still a bit...hazy.

[CouldBeWorse]

I think that was a PS2 title the was scrapped but recently ressurected.

Capcom cancelled but now Rockstar are publishing it.

They swapped it when capcom wanted to publish GTA3 in Japan as part of the deal.

[Goose]

Capcom cancelled but now Rockstar are publishing it.

They swapped it when capcom wanted to publish GTA3 in Japan as part of the deal.

Thankyou - I knew I'd read or heard it recently.

[Cyhwuhx]

Indeed.

.::: The last thing I heard about it, was that it was cancelled in favor of a Kid Icarus out-sourced 1st party game. Still nothing more than a rumour though, although I certainly wouldn't oppose the idea.

[masterhand]

They planned to develop new idea and franchises with the 5 titles. If just one of the games had been a new resident evil or tomb raider behemouth then it would have paid off.

Thank you Capcom for PN 03.

This game has been the first new game to have me hooked until the end for a long time. Its old skool skill and score attack ethics also its look harking back to an age of flat shaded polygons. I think this is absolutley a great game, looks great and dumps all the additional bumf that is seemingly a prerequisite for any game today. Fantastic transforming robot bosses with a real sense of scale. a suitable techno-lite soundtrack and a cool main chracter that oozes all the future fasion sense of a time shifted Lara Croft. Its all so good for gamers but not for the masses.

Sitting in a bargin bin near you now no doubt.

[dismembo]

I get the impression that these games were meant to be a little experimental. These games were made reasonably quickly by smaller teams than is usual weren't they?

If this was the case, they wouldn't need to sell as many copies to make publishing them worthwhile.

[emjay2kay]

Sitting in a bargin bin near you now no doubt.

£17 on Play. I am disgusted with myself for having not already picked it up, but I find myself in the usual situation of "too many games, too little time" and something's got to give.

I'll get it eventually though. I promise.

[squirtle]

PN03 does indeed Rawk! Oh, yes. Simplistic to the point of genius. Just you, the controls and the enemies and a pirhouetting, dancing, super cool vixen as your gaming Avatar. It's just class in a glass as far as I;m concerned. Nothing better than cartwheeling flipping out of the way of some oncoming missiles before unleashing a super move and destroying everything in front of you. Just superb. Looks great, sounds great... One of my fave games of last year.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

That's a bit controversial, isn't it?

No, it's simple maths. The situation would be the same if they developed for Xbox, although the Xbox has less high-quality first-party titles than the GameCube, making competiting a bit easier (although the average Xbox player might like shiny cars and big guns better).

[Lazychu]

No, it's simple maths. The situation would be the same if they developed for Xbox, although the Xbox has less high-quality first-party titles than the GameCube, making competiting a bit easier (although the average Xbox player might like shiny cars and big guns better).

I can't see something like VJ selling AT ALL to your average Xbox owner.

[zxcvbnm]

I'm with you lot on this one - PN03 is one of my top games for 2003. Takes me back to being a wee nipper and that "just one more go" feeling.

[kamrantaz]

No, it's simple maths. The situation would be the same if they developed for Xbox, although the Xbox has less high-quality first-party titles than the GameCube, making competiting a bit easier (although the average Xbox player might like shiny cars and big guns better).

but dude...

XBOX gamers have no taste, They prefer american bollocks to hardcore japanese greatness eg look at SEGA's performance. They're not even bothering to release outrun and VC3 cos they know XBOX gamers are to tasteless to buy it...

[SomeNaiveChump]

No, it's simple maths. The situation would be the same if they developed for Xbox, although the Xbox has less high-quality first-party titles than the GameCube, making competiting a bit easier (although the average Xbox player might like shiny cars and big guns better).

simple cube-bashing, actually. not unexpected from you, it has to be said.

fact is, VJ has vastly outsold comparable 'innovative' PS2 and xbox titles such as Ico, Rez, PDO and JSRF, which absolutely BOMBED, which means at the moment, your bias is shining bright for all to see

[Space Renegade Ulala]

but dude...

XBOX gamers have no taste, They prefer american bollocks to hardcore japanese greatness eg look at SEGA's performance. They're not even bothering to release outrun and VC3 cos they know XBOX gamers are to tasteless to buy it...

Yes, let's:

Jet Set Radio Future - Sure, it's ace

Sega GT - An average GT clone

Gun Valkyrie - Average platform shooter

Panzer Dragoon: Orta - Surprisingly dull (and mystifyingly overrated) on-rails shooter

House of the Dead III - Light gun titles never really do great at retail

They also published Ot.O.Gi in Europe, which seems to have split most players into the great/rubbish camp but hasn't set the world on fire.

Hardly a stack of killer titles...

Of course, it's far too much of a stretch to imagine that non-Japanese developers might actually be coming up with better software than their Japan based counterparts, isn't it? Nagoshi made a very good point about this a couple of months back...

[bomber]

but dude...

XBOX gamers have no taste, They prefer american bollocks to hardcore japanese greatness eg look at SEGA's performance. They're not even bothering to release outrun and VC3 cos they know XBOX gamers are to tasteless to buy it...

Yes, let's:

Jet Set Radio Future - Sure, it's ace

Sega GT - An average GT clone

Gun Valkyrie - Average platform shooter

Panzer Dragoon: Orta - Surprisingly dull (and mystifyingly overrated) on-rails shooter

House of the Dead III - Light gun titles never really do great at retail

They also published Ot.O.Gi in Europe, which seems to have split most players into the great/rubbish camp but hasn't set the world on fire.

Way to prove his point about Xbox gamer's lack of taste. All those games except Sega GT are above average, to write off Gun Valykrie as an "Average platform shooter" is plain ignorant and reaks of someone who's played it for 5 minutes and given up. I was so pissed off when Turok Evolution and BMX XXX outsold Shenmue 2 in the US, the series is probably never gonna continue now.

And Viewtiful Joe did well in the US and went top 20 in Europe, which is more than can be said about games like ICO and Rez which didn't even make the PS2 top 40. A game like Viewtiful Joe isn't gonna be massive on any format, your average gamer just doesn't care for 2D, even Street Fighter is seemingly dead.