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yes, an expedition found his pals, brought the bodies back to Castle Black, and the bodies turned into zombies.

then there was the larger expedition led by the Lord Commander, via Craster's Keep etc, to find out what happened to him and what the zombies were about.

so they don't know what happened to Benjen, but they know his mates are dead.

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Bit of a waste of an episode for me. Not nearly enough progression and felt a bit like a set piece for the sake of it, with so so much stuff still left *too* open for the finale I feel at least some of that time should've been spent on last nights episode.

Stannis seriously needs to make an appearance next week because his story is just ridiculously slow now.

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I was thinking this. What goes through his mind when he is writing these characters? "Oh, this guy is pretty awesome, so... I better squish his face in!"

I picture GRRM as one of those guys who roots for the villains.

Could it be that he's putting across how things are in reality? People die whether theyre good or bad but the world around them continues on. Unless youre John (Barrowman)Snow. The story seems to be about the world itself rather than a hero like in every other thing ever. It does make it a lot more believable and less predictable.

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Alliser Thorne, big cunt that he is, gained a bit of respect last night. He admitted he was wrong about the tunnel, and had the balls to get stuck in at the foot of the wall. That Janos Slynt is a great big chicken amplified this manyfold, of course, but it's nonetheless interesting to see. Like many characters in the show, he's not a simple black and white antagonist to a main character, and this was his display of that.

I wonder how he'll take the news that Jon's headed north.

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Could it be that he's putting across how things are in reality? People die whether theyre good or bad but the world around them continues on. Unless youre John (Barrowman)Snow. The story seems to be about the world itself rather than a hero like in every other thing ever. It does make it a lot more believable and less predictable.

That post was a joke. You know there is this joke among fans of the show (and book readers?) that George R. R. Martin kills off the best or everyone's favourite characters. My post wasn't suppose to be taken seriously.

Part of what you said is why I love the show. I think I posted before that this show is breaking all sorts of rules within television yet it is probably one of the most popular scripted shows today because of it's different.

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Could it be that he's putting across how things are in reality? People die whether theyre good or bad but the world around them continues on. Unless youre John (Barrowman)Snow. The story seems to be about the world itself rather than a hero like in every other thing ever. It does make it a lot more believable and less predictable.

Imagine he literally rolled a dice to determine the ultimate fate of characters.

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What's the rule about zombification anyway? Do people only turn into zombs if they die within a certain range of the wall or something? It only seems to be a problem for people in that vicinity.

I think the answer to that is "nobody knows". Maybe fat Sam (and old blind Aegon) can dig some info up in the library, but at this stage is "burn the bodies to be safe".

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Alliser Thorne, big cunt that he is, gained a bit of respect last night. He admitted he was wrong about the tunnel, and had the balls to get stuck in at the foot of the wall. That Janos Slynt is a great big chicken amplified this manyfold, of course, but it's nonetheless interesting to see. Like many characters in the show, he's not a simple black and white antagonist to a main character, and this was his display of that.

I wonder how he'll take the news that Jon's headed north.

Have to agree with this. He was a true boss last night. Loved his little chat with Jon.

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Next episode is 66 minutes long, slightly making up for this week's 50 minute entertaining yet frivolous and distracting Royal Rumble.

Benioff and Weiss added that they are so “immensely proud” of the finale that there are concerns no future episode will better it.

“We’re a little intimidated by the episode because now we have to get back to the business of season five and figure out a way to top it,” they continued.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-4-finale-will-be-finest-hour-you-have-ever-seen-9520532.html

Hype Train! :omg:

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What's the rule about zombification anyway? Do people only turn into zombs if they die within a certain range of the wall or something? It only seems to be a problem for people in that vicinity.

I'm guessing you have to be touched by a White Walker like we saw with the baby mid season.

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The baby actually turned into a white walker though. I reckon to turn corpses into zombies they only have to be nearby, like how water turns into ice when they're around (why don't they just freeze the sea at the coast and walk around the Wall?)

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To be honest I thought a lot of the fighting suffered from Batman Begins syndrome where I couldn't tell who was who.

My missus got pulled in by the episode and did say at one point "why don't they wear different coloured bibs so they can tell who is on what side"... Bless!

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I have wondered what the friendly fire death rate would be in those sorts of battles, as there's rarely a distinctive uniform on either side and things usually breakdown into a chaotic melee within seconds where everyone's just wildly swinging weapons at everyone who comes near. It often looks like an individual would be very lucky to kill more of the opposition than he does his own side.

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I have wondered what the friendly fire death rate would be in those sorts of battles, as there's rarely a distinctive uniform on either side and things usually breakdown into a chaotic melee within seconds where everyone's just wildly swinging weapons at everyone who comes near. It often looks like an individual would be very lucky to kill more of the opposition than he does his own side.

If you don't recognise them, kill them.

Not exactly a foolproof scheme but there we go.

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I have wondered what the friendly fire death rate would be in those sorts of battles, as there's rarely a distinctive uniform on either side and things usually breakdown into a chaotic melee within seconds where everyone's just wildly swinging weapons at everyone who comes near. It often looks like an individual would be very lucky to kill more of the opposition than he does his own side.

mp_friendlyfire 0 :mellow:

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