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McFly

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Team Sky are turning out to be crooked fuckers, theyve been so succesful for about a decade now but this might kill them. Froome, could or should have won the Tour when Wiggins did if there were no team orders iirc so i dont know how well he was doing before he became main man for Sky. But to achieve what Froome did this year is insane so no surprise if he did cheat.

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13 hours ago, GwiDan said:

I struggle to find a reasonable explanation for his use of salbutamol. Anyone that’s taking a high dose of that because they need it has no place winning a professional cycle race surely. 

 

Looks to be the standard over the counter asthma treatment, apparently with no proven benefits from a doping perspective, but I have no idea how normal use relates to the blood levels found (i.e., whether that equates to one extra puff on the inhaler, or drinking a gallon of the stuff!).

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3 hours ago, MrPogo said:

 

Looks to be the standard over the counter asthma treatment, apparently with no proven benefits from a doping perspective, but I have no idea how normal use relates to the blood levels found (i.e., whether that equates to one extra puff on the inhaler, or drinking a gallon of the stuff!).

 

Causes bronchodilatation which helps with breathing. My point is, what is an elite athlete who is capable of winning a very physical competition doing taking medication or an asthma attack and then managing to win the race? Doesn’t add up. 

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curium

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On 12/14/2017 at 12:19, GwiDan said:

 

Causes bronchodilatation which helps with breathing. My point is, what is an elite athlete who is capable of winning a very physical competition doing taking medication or an asthma attack and then managing to win the race? Doesn’t add up. 

 

Im late to this but, exercise-induced asthma is very common among professional sports-people precisely due to the extreme levels that they push their bodies.

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I noticed Valverde and Yates were both climbing, standing while on the drops in the Volta Valenciana. This used to be Pantani's hallmark.

 

Has some study shown this form to provide some kind of physiological advantage, increasing its popularity?

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Seems we missed the Giro entirely.

Any tips for Le Tour? I didn't notice Quintana, Bardet, Nibali, or Valverde in the Giro so they're likely to be fresher than Froome and Dumoulin

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Gotters

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On 07/07/2018 at 12:29, morcs said:

Is this the thread for tour chat? Why is it so quiet? :D 

 

I’ve watched the tour for years since the days of Le Mond and ch4 highlights

 

Become a bit disillusioned with it all with Froome looking as rotten as everything dirty that has gone before (which is saying a lot).

 

That said once the world cup is out the way sure I’ll enjoy the mountains and lovely scenery again.

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Going into the TdF I think I would have had my favorites as Nibali and Porte, with the likes of Bardet, Quintana, Landa, Yates and Thomas (dependent on how Froome goes) as potential prospects for the podium. Froome and Dumoulin I think will be hampered by having raced the Giro, so while I think either could have won this TdF if they were fresh I think it will probably depend on how hard the first couple of weeks are raced. They have the advantage of an extra week between the races that Quintana and Contador didn't have when they tried the Giro Tour double. 

 

The reason I would have ordered then like that was based around the TTT and ITT. Bardet in particular has a fairly week TTT team and is shocking as at ITT and I don't think he is good enough in the mountains to shake the people who have very strong teams for the TTT (Porte, Yates, Froome, Dumoulin, Thomas) and are very good in the ITT (Porte, Froome, Dumoulin and Thomas). I also think the likes of Quintana will suffer more in the first week.

 

Obviously the first day threw things up the air a little with Froome, Porte and Yates getting caught behind the crash, and then obviously the disastrous mechanical that Quintana had (I would imagine that Landa was incredibly happy about that!). However what basically happened is that just nullified TTT loses for the weaker TTT teams, and we have kind of returned to a status quo where all the main contenders are roundabout each other after 3 stages, with the exception of Dumoulin and Thomas, but both those have a question mark over their heads. Will Dumoulin be able to maintain his form for 3 weeks and will Sky back Thomas (and possibly more importantly is he really a three week racer)?

 

With regards to the other Jerseys, unless the commissars throw him out again then Sagan is nailed on for the green, there really is no competition. Poker Dots will be decided on how the GC boys race the mountain stages (i.e. if they go full gas or allow breakaways). Young rider I'm actually not sure about to be honest, it will most likely depend on how deep some of the younger riders have to go in helping out their leaders, otherwise I'd be tempted to go with someone like Egan Bernal but I think he will have to bury himself too often in service to Froome/G. Same for Marc Soler at movistar who otherwise I'd put up there with a chance

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I don't think he is sandbagging at all, I think he's racing at the maximum he can, he also has the Giro in his legs which G doesn't.

 

I'm also not convinced of this narrative that Sky want Froome to win. Sky don't care who wins as long as it's a Sky rider. However G hasn't made it through a GT without having at least one bad day, so they obviously aren't going to throw everything towards him while a proven GT winner is still in the race, especially as they have the strength in depth teamwise to look after both of them until near the end of stages.

 

With regards to the race it's now looking like a three way fight between Dumoulin, Froome and G. I've been really impressed with Dumoulin as he also has the Giro in his legs but seems to be coping at least as well as Froome. It's a real shame that Porte and Nibali, my two picks before the tour started, are out as that has obviously cut the competition badly. I don't see Bardet as a threat for the title (possibly the podium if G falters) as he is going to get blown away by Dumoulin and Froome in the final ITT, and his team has been decimated. Biggest disappointment for me though has been Yates who just hasn't looked anywhere near being at the races, closely followed by Movistar's complete inability to come up with any sort of coherent plan for anything.

 

Also while these short mountain stages are obviously designed to try to make the GC more interesting they have well and truly made the green a forgone conclusion (not that it wasn't anyway) by eliminating pretty much every sprinter bar Sagan and Demare. Could well see Sagan take the win on the champs elysee which would be amazing.

 

Also how good is Egan Bernal? Future of GT riding there!

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fragglerock

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Yeh. He is gone from the race... but he needs to be gone from the sport

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/22/magnus-cort-nielsen-wins-stage-15-of-toue-de-france-in-sprint-finish

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The Italian Moscon, who admitted to racially abusing another professional, Kevin Reza, in April 2017, was also investigated by the UCI following claims that he had pushed another rider off his bike last autumn and was disqualified from the World Championships road race last year for holding on to a team car. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, McFly said:

FFS due to a protest by farmers todays stage as been halted and maybe abandoned <_<

Its not due to a protest. Its due to the police using teargas on the protest which also affected the riders.

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