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I didn't realise that the original Scout Walker toy came out alongside ESB. Does it have the longer legs when compared to the ROTJ version? I had a Kenner AT-ST and I remember it being anatomically correct with regards to ROTJ 🤓

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16 minutes ago, Pob said:

I didn't realise that the original Scout Walker toy came out alongside ESB. Does it have the longer legs when compared to the ROTJ version? I had a Kenner AT-ST and I remember it being anatomically correct with regards to ROTJ 🤓

 

The Scout Walker is in Empire during the battle of Hoth, but for like a split-second... and that's been the case since the first 1980 release!

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8 minutes ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

The Scout Walker is in Empire during the battle of Hoth, but for like a split-second... and that's been the case since the first 1980 release!

 

I know, and it has longer legs than the ROTJ versions, which is why I was wondering if that was reflected in the toy (I assume it must be). It also makes me wonder if the AT-ST was supposed to feature more prominently in ESB, hence the toy being made.

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On 11/07/2022 at 13:29, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

Yeah everyone knows it's a Fireship Gunspray thing. Despite it being cannon that it's called Slave 1.  Cunts.

It's no longer canon though is it? 

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55 minutes ago, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

Doesn't work. At that point Alderaan hadn't been explodified.


she hadn’t met Han Solo either…

 

just go with it for the lols

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James Earl Jones has announced he's retired from voicing Darth Vader, but has given permission for his voice to be recreated/imitated with AI and other actors.

 

Original source, if you can get past the paywall: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/09/darth-vaders-voice-emanated-from-war-torn-ukraine

Non-paywalled summary: https://www.cbr.com/james-earl-jones-darth-vader-voice-rights-retires-star-wars/

 

 

Of course, the top comment about this news on r/movies is...

 

Spoiler

He's more machine now than man.

 

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I find the whole concept of those sort of things weirdly disrespectful. The original was carefully considered work with the cutting edge work of hundreds of people to do. Yes, it would've been done differently if it'd been done today, but as with all art, the limitations made it better, not worse. It's not as awful as that Obi-wan vs Vader redo a while back that did rule of cool and completely misunderstood the whole point of the original scene, but using new technology to go over something historically significant to fix perceived weaknesses seems arrogant. It's like using your Singer to sew more arrows into the Bayeux tapestry*

 

*yeah, I know in this case the original still exists but I didn't really approve of it when Lucas did it, when xxJ3d1@sskick69xx or whatever does it I'll like it even less

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I thought CGI Peter Cushing was ghastly and more recently people were gushing that a shitty looking CGI version of a dead actor was a lovely tribute and I found it crass. I think I’m firmly in the minority on this one though. At least in this case James Earl Jones gave his permission while he’s alive. I feel sorry for voice actors though, there was an article out this week about the games industry moving to using AI generated voices. I think the dream for mega studios like Disney is eventually having deepfake actors with AI voices then they can make films with valuable IP characters forever more without worrying about pesky things like them aging out of roles or taking them to court when they stiff them on their contracts.

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1 hour ago, Phantoon said:

I find the whole concept of those sort of things weirdly disrespectful. The original was carefully considered work with the cutting edge work of hundreds of people to do. Yes, it would've been done differently if it'd been done today, but as with all art, the limitations made it better, not worse. It's not as awful as that Obi-wan vs Vader redo a while back that did rule of cool and completely misunderstood the whole point of the original scene, but using new technology to go over something historically significant to fix perceived weaknesses seems arrogant. It's like using your Singer to sew more arrows into the Bayeux tapestry*

 

*yeah, I know in this case the original still exists but I didn't really approve of it when Lucas did it, when xxJ3d1@sskick69xx or whatever does it I'll like it even less

I personally don’t think adywans work is disrespectful at all, but I get your point with some of the other fan creations out there. He brings so many subtle changes and a few bigger ones to compliment what Lucas did and actually improve the viewing experience. There are so many minor changes, that in some cases you really need the list beside you to spot them, but when you do spot them they usually bring a smile to your face. More importantly he does full colour correction which looks stunning.

 

 

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I'm not a fan of that Adywan thing - it looks like the classic case of just adding stuff and making it busier for the sake of it - but there's nothing wrong with fan edits and reworks of stuff. If anything, it should be encouraged - there's nothing wrong with using other people's ideas and work as a base for your own stuff, provided you don't exploit it and acknowledge what you're doing. The problem is when people like Lucas actively act to prevent the original work from being seen.

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4 hours ago, Harsin said:

I thought CGI Peter Cushing was ghastly and more recently people were gushing that a shitty looking CGI version of a dead actor was a lovely tribute and I found it crass. I think I’m firmly in the minority on this one though. At least in this case James Earl Jones gave his permission while he’s alive. I feel sorry for voice actors though, there was an article out this week about the games industry moving to using AI generated voices. I think the dream for mega studios like Disney is eventually having deepfake actors with AI voices then they can make films with valuable IP characters forever more without worrying about pesky things like them aging out of roles or taking them to court when they stiff them on their contracts.

 

Yep, that's the studio's dream. Milk those franchises to death - and beyond!

 

I was always mystified by the Cushing thing - it looked like a character from one of those Filoni shows had appeared in a live-action film.

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