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'just enough education to perform' was half decent, so they didn't spend their whole career being utter shit, just 95% of it

What? What? What? Seriously?

I mean I kind of like the Stereophonics (yeah I also like Coldplay oh and Keane too burn the heretic now) but you pick their most standout petulant, self indulgent moment as their one moment of greatness? Seriously?

In more realistic news, Word Gets Around was a great album - everything since then less so, with JEEP being the nadir.

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I've never managed to get into Pink Floyd, listened to DSOTM a few times and while being a good sleep aid it does nothing for me. I tried :(

Well you need to try harder. ;)

It's amazing, the production levels are out of this world for the year it was recorded, and it has a tremendous atmosphere and cohesive theme (as opposed to a forced "concept"), as well as classic individual songs. The final medley of Brain Damage and Eclipse sends shivers down my spine, as does the incredible Great Gig in The Sky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVM7ZpQrCnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Truly progressive in my opinion, and just utterly fantastic music that isn't stuffy, or dated, or dinosaur-like in any way. It's fresh sounding, and genuinely powerful and will be a classic forever.

The wiki page is a good read as well. So much innovation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon

And have some early electronica from it as well:

In short, if you think Pink Floyd are one of the worst rock bands ever then you wrong. And that's just based on one album.

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I love The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, always struggled with Pink Floyd apart from that. But even if all their career ever produced was 'Interstellar Overdrive' and a load of farting noises they still wouldn't deserve a place in this thread. That track's just amazing.

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I'm in the fucking despising Pink Floyd and Queen camp. Pompous over produced bland shit.

Bland is incorrect. It's not a question of opinion here Hawkeye, that's just a fact. Flamboyant, culturally significant, and sure pompous maybe, but not bland. Even the adjectives you yourself use contradict the word bland.

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Ha! Punk. Music for morons, by morons, still loved by morons. Dead-eyed, hate-filled music, as bland as you can get ironically, identikit three chord idiot ditties which have long since become far more stale and played out than the music it claimed to be destroying (fact: it failed, long term), now as bankrupt as a John Lydon Anchor Butter commercial, while progressive, intelligent, soulful music still thrives.

I fucking hate punk.

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Ha! Punk. Music for morons, by morons, still loved by morons. Dead-eyed, hate-filled music, as bland as you can get ironically, identikit three chord idiot ditties which have long since become far more stale and played out than the music it claimed to be destroying (fact: it failed, long term), now as bankrupt as a John Lydon Anchor Butter commercial, while progressive, intelligent, soulful music still thrives.

I fucking hate punk.

You obviously don't listen to much punk. Different strokes etc, i'm with Hawkeye i find the likes of pink floyd and Queen to be very dull and love the energy and vibe of the punk scene but i severely doubt any of them deserve a mention in a thread dealing with the worst of the worst in rock music.

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Ha! Punk. Music for morons, by morons, still loved by morons. Dead-eyed, hate-filled music, as bland as you can get ironically, identikit three chord idiot ditties which have long since become far more stale and played out than the music it claimed to be destroying (fact: it failed, long term), now as bankrupt as a John Lydon Anchor Butter commercial, while progressive, intelligent, soulful music still thrives.

I fucking hate punk.

You have the worst musical taste of anyone I've ever encountered. And that includes Oh Danny Boy.

To go further would be to invite your getting all defensive again, despite the usual start to the proceedings of your roundly condemning a whole raft / era of invigorating, exciting music as 'bland', and describing people who like it as morons. Probably without having ever heard that much of it. (Though I will just add: 'dead eyed' and 'hate filled'? What? Have you any idea at all what you're talking about? Seriously? Have you any knowledge of 76-78, or its culture or its music at all? Any?)

Gah. So that's all.

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You obviously don't listen to much punk. Different strokes etc, i'm with Hawkeye i find the likes of pink floyd and Queen to be very dull and love the energy and vibe of the punk scene but i severely doubt any of them deserve a mention in a thread dealing with the worst of the worst in rock music.

As much as I hate both those bands I wouldn't list them in a worst of rock either. There are a multitude of horrifically bad bands lining up for that particular horror.

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Music is always emotive. Much like Danny boy I need passion, energy and drive in my music. I imagine the very thing that checks those boxes for me are the very things that Davros despises in that type of music. Much like the production and such of the music he loves are the very things that drive me batty when listening to a record.

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Despite once being as blindly dismissive of proggy stuff as Davros is being of punk I can get behind at least a part of what he's saying. Punk as a genre (something it unfortunately developed into) did quickly become a stale parody of itself in a lot of respects and, unfortunately, that parody has been very persistent, leading to shite like Rancid and Sum 41 and whatever trading off dodgy 'punk' signifiers years later. But even if if you dismiss it musically in its 'purest' form, it's pure conservative silliness to dismiss its influence in (either directly or indirectly) democratising music, the rise of DIY culture and paving the way for all sorts of great stuff from post-punk and No Wave to something as superficially different to it as dance music and to practically every band that's interesting in the present day.

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Punk was a socio-political movement as well as an aesthetic statement, a necessarily caustic application to the body of a dead and decaying mass-media, big label-controlled, 'popular' culture. It completely and utterly washed away the (I guess you had to be there at the time) utterly tedious and irrelevant chart music of the time, popped the bloated pretensions of past-it rock stars and brought a massive breathing space into which real diversity, imagination, intelligence, passion and wit could again flood into the consciousness of young people. Without it you wouldn't have had any of the fantastic and amazing music that came from this country from the late 70s to the early 80s. I won't bore by listing all that stuff here, but the influence of the ethos of punk (which was always its main point), and the DIY liberation it brought, despite what Davros thinks, persists long into the present day and will into the future. As does its musical influence.

I'd also quote a long string of pieces of great 'punk' music here, but this thread is definitely the wrong one for them.

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You have the worst musical taste of anyone I've ever encountered. And that includes Oh Danny Boy.

True, one disparaged an entire sub-genre along with its cultural importance and fan base...but then again, the other started a thread entitled 'the worst rock bands ever' and yet by his third post, defended a Nickleback song.

It's a hard call, is all I'm saying.

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I'm no massive Floyd fan, but Comfortably Numb breaks my heart every time I hear it. That's such a beautifully composed and executed song.

As for punk. Here's an extract from a recent David Longstreth (Dirty Projectors) interview on the subject. Interesting.

'Most of the creative industries have been deskilled by these really powerful ideologies of punk in music and Warhol in the visual arts'

Dirty Projectors' music is often complicated, but Longstreth has little truck with the idea that virtuosity is somehow uncool or inauthentic.

"Most of the creative industries have been deskilled by these really powerful ideologies of punk in music and Warhol in the visual arts," he says, his words as indignant as his demeanour is relaxed. "I think it would be great for us collectively to ask whether it's had a negative or positive effect in contributing imaginative stuff to our culture.

"This deskilled, attitude-based approach is boring; it's fucking dead," he drawls. "Clearly technical musicianship is not an end in itself. I'm not about to defend Steve Vai; I hate that shit as much as the next guy."

Learning your craft, he insists, allows you to realise your most outlandish visions: "With Ligeti, if I hear it and I'm mesmerised by whatever effect it gives, it's not black magic; he had an idea and this technical knowledge of orchestration that he could apply to create this acoustic effect that had never been created before. So if I could do a similar thing then that would be the biggest achievement of my life. Whether that's orchestration or songwriting or production, I'm just very curious about all of it. I'm a student."

http://m.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jul/07/dirty-projectors-david-longstreth-interview?cat=music&type=article

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Have you any knowledge of 76-78, or its culture or its music at all? Any?)

Course I have. How I could I not, when old punk bores such as yourselves have gone on, and on, and on about it ever since. YAWN!

And yes, yes, yes, precisely - you do have to have been there. And given that I wasn't (born in '74), what has the original punk stuff got to offer me? The Stranglers excepted as they could play. Extended keyboard solos yay!

Still, I have "The worst musical taste of anyone you've ever encountered" so what do I know?

"Doo doo doo Aznavour...", great tune.

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