PlayStation 4 Console Thread

[mushashi]

Sony announced the official release dates for the PS4 in NA/Europe and South America at Gamescom:

29th November, 2013 in Europe including Australia, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom.

*edit by Graham_S 21st Nov 2013, I am quoting Moz's friends list post here, by request*

On 10/14/2013 at 15:47, Moz said:

The Rllmuk PS4 Launch Games Friend Finder!

First, fill in this form:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1omajWtoOPtr_NdeZ0_u9R-5YTlT_scygCXiXpXR3KGM/viewform

Then you can go here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkM-_TxFfGIddGVDOTg1M2ZJYUE3WXk2ck5EM196UlE&usp=sharing

Click on "view" and "list".

From here you can filter by Rllmuk username, by PSN name, or most importantly, by game.

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Example

Enable list view as above.

Scroll along to the "Killzone Shadow Fall" column.

Click the drop-down filter, and change to "yes".

You will now have a (hopefully long) list of Mukkers who are getting K:SF at launch.

 

Buying games from US storefront

http://www.nowgamer.com/ps4-vs-xbox-one-game-dvr-review/

 

Launch Window (Launch to 31st Dec 2013) games lineup - 15 Retail games and 18 Download-Only games:

Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag (Blu-ray/digital)

Basement Crawl (digital)

Battlefield 4 (Blu-ray/digital)

Blacklight (digital)

Call of Duty: Ghosts (Blu-ray/digital)

Contrast (digital)

DC Universe Online (digital)

Doki-Doki Universe (digital)

#DriveClub (Blu-ray/digital)

FIFA 14 (Blu-ray/digital)

Flower (digital)

Hohokum (digital)

Just Dance 2014 (Blu-ray/digital)

Killzone: Shadow Fall (Blu-ray/digital)

Knack (Blu-ray/digital)

Lego Marvel Superheroes (Blu-ray/digital)

Madden NFL 25 (Blu-ray/digital)

Minecraft (digital)

N++ (digital)

NBA Live (Blu-ray/digital)

NBA 2K14 (Blu-ray/digital)

Need for Speed: Rivals (Blu-ray/digital)

Pinball Arcade (digital)

Planetside 2 (digital)

Pool Nation Extreme (digital)

ResoGun (digital)

Skylanders: Swap Force (Blu-ray/digital)

Super Motherload (digital)

The Playroom (preinstalled)

Tiny Brains (digital)

Warframe (digital)

War Thunder (digital)

Watch_Dogs (Blu-ray/digital)

Update courtesy of verbs:

Sony unveiled the first hardware specifications of its PlayStation 4 today, promising "supercharged PC architecture," an X86 processor and 8GB of GDDR5 unified system memory WTF. It's coming "holiday 2013."

The Controller!

PS4 Controller Issues FAQ

Touchpad, Options and Share buttons, headphone jack, speaker, better triggers/sticks.

Cool Shit!

Suspend/Resume - Stop your game and put the PS4 into a low power state, pick up immediately where you left off when you come back.

Share - Post screenshots and video from your play sessions. It looked like you could wind back through your last ten minutes of gameplay, edit/trim it down and upload it. They did this onstage with Killzone: Shadow Fall.

Video Streaming - Stream your game out live to other users on the PS4 or ustream. People watching can give you tips like "Dude Look Out!" and even take control of your game temporarily to get you past a tough section.

Gakai Being Fast - The plan is to be able to select a demo and instantly begin streaming it. You'll also be able to start playing games while they download.

The Games!

Killzone: Shadow Fall:

Driveclub:

inFAMOUS: Second Son:

The Witness:

Deep Down (working title, set in the Dragon's Dogma universe):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9UmHm9HA3c

Watch Dogs:

Tech Demos!

Media Molecule

Quantic Dream's Old Man Face

Havok Physics Thing

Other Bits!

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Sony and Gaikai officials announced that remote play will be a huge part of the PlayStation 4 ecosystem. Specifically, Sony revealed that the PlayStation Vita can be used to play PlayStation 4 games on the go.

Sony hopes to make every PlayStation 4 game playable remotely on Vita, and potentially even other devices. In these cases the PlayStation 4 becomes a server and the device (say, for example, a PlayStation Vita) becomes the client. A live demonstration of this technology was shown during the conference, with the newly announced PS4 game Knack running on a Vita, on-stage.

Also PlaystationEU's twitter are pretty sure backwards compatibility is coming via their cloud service and not at all qualifying it in "eventually"s like Dave Perry did onstage.

Controller stuff from Morrius / Moz:

Has this stuff been posted yet? I can't see it. If it has, instead of negging me, just tell me and I'll remove the post.

Some dashboard stuff from Moz:

#

Love it.

One thing I noticed, it appears to show a user streaming picture-in-picture, showing their gameplay AND their face via the new camera at the same time. Don't think they've mentioned that yet

Is it wrong that I'm most excited about hearing the startup sound for the first time?!

It looks quite a lot like big picture mode too.

Original post, rumoured specs etc:

Spoiler

Sony have announced an event on the 20th February 2013, with this headline:

See the Future, Be the first to know.

http://blog.us.plays...see-the-future/

VGleaks have put up final specs for the next Sony home console, currently codenamed Orbis, the details are similar to earlier reports from other sources:

LIVERPOOL SoC

* Custom implementation of AMD Fusion APU Arquitecture (Accelerated Processing Unit)

* Provides good performance with low power consumtion

* Integrated CPU and GPU

* Considerably bigger and more powerful than AMDs other APUs

CPU:

* Orbis contains eight Jaguar cores at 1.6 Ghz, arranged as two clusters

* Each cluster contains 4 cores and a shared 2MB L2 cache

* 256-bit SIMD operations, 128-bit SIMD ALU

* SSE up to SSE4, as well as Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX)

* One hardware thread per core

* Decodes, executes and retires at up to two intructions/cycle

* Out of order execution

* Per-core dedicated L1-I and L1-D cache (32Kb each)

* Two pipes per core yield 12,8 GFlops performance

* 102.4 GFlops for system

GPU:

* GPU is based on AMDs R10XX (Southern Islands) architecture

* DirectX 11.1+ feature set

* Liverpool is an enhanced version of the architecture

* 18 Compute Units (CUs)

* Hardware balanced at 14 CUs

* Shared 512 KB of read/write L2 cache

* 800 Mhz

* 1.843 Tflops, 922 GigaOps/s

* Dual shader engines

* 18 texture units

* 8 Render backends

Detailed GPU Specs:

Each CU contains dedicated:

- ALU (32 64-bit operations per cycle)

- Texture Unit

- L1 data cache

- Local data share (LDS)

About 14 + 4 balance:

- 4 additional CUs (410 Gflops) extra ALU as resource for compute

- Minor boost if used for rendering

Dual Shader Engines:

- 1.6 billion triangles/s, 1.6 billion vertices/s

18 Texture units

- 56 billion bilinear texture reads/s

- Can utilize full memory bandwith

8 Render backends:

- 32 color ops/cycle

- 128 depth ops/cycle

- Can utilize full memory bandwith

Memory:

* 4 GB unified system memory, 176 GB/s

* 3.5 available to games (estimate)

Storage:

- High speed Blu-ray drive

* single layer (25 GB) or dual layer (50 GB) discs

* Partial constant angular velocity (PCAV)

* Outer half of disc 6x (27 MB/s)

* Inner half varies, 3.3x to 6x

- Internal mass storage

* One SKU at launch: 500 GB HDD

* There may also be a Flash drive SKU in the future

Networking:

* 1 Gb/s Ethernet, 802.11b/g/n WIFI, and Bluetooth

Peripherals:

* Evolved Dualshock controller

* Dual Camera

* Move controller

Extra:

* Audio Processor (ACP)

* Video encode and decode (VCE/UVD) units

* Display ScanOut Engine (DCE)

* Zlib Decompression Hardware

http://www.vgleaks.c...orbis-unveiled/

http://www.eurogamer...ext-gen-console

[KriessG]

Awesome, another Next Gen thread!

[Chosty]

So the PS4 will be eight times more powerful than the Atari Jaguar? Is that better or worse than two Wiis ductaped together?

[Camel]

It's equivalent to a PS1 bound to an XBox with a skipping rope and placed next to an Atari 2600.

[Epcotman]

Want.

[Rev]

I assume the Liverpool GPU isn't something proprietary.

Ie. They nicked it from someone else.

[DocG]

There may also be a Flash drive SKU in the future

GT6 loading times confirmed to be worse than GT5's.

[Epcotman]

I assume the Liverpool GPU isn't something proprietary.

Ie. They nicked it from someone else.

I think they've said they are going for "off the shelf" bits this time, as they did with Vita. The alien technology they harvested for PS3 caused a fair few problems and was rather pricey!

[Mr Cochese]

We know there may be multiple SKUs, but how many EANs and GTUs will it have?

[Camel]

Keeping track of stock on a flash drive sounds excellent.

[DocG]

We know there may be multiple SKUs, but how many EANs and GTUs will it have?

I hear it'll produce at least 500 BTUs, and as such deliver a substantial saving on your heating bill.

[Garibaldi]

I can see no details about an emotion or empathy engine equivalent.

[Mr Cochese]

How many Molinas a second can this badboy shift?

[Tofu]

No mention of a flux capacity I see, underpowered then.

[Spacehost]

No support for real-time weapon change? Preorder cancelled.

[Professor Puzzles]

120 FLOPDEDOPs and 28 separate LAH-DE-DAHs, the potential is practically unimaginable.

[Cthulhu Steev]

SKU-U! (Buddy)

[Smitty]

It's got less green boxes on its diagram than on the Durango one.

Bad move, Sony.

[scottcr]

How many WiiUs is that?

[Smitty]

How many WiiUs is that?

135

[Barny]

Prepare for the 4. dimension.

[Alex W.]

It's not what it looks like. It's what it does.

[Barny]

A bit like women then

(sorry)

[Nespresso]

Al right if someone could just make a Nextbox/Durango thread, close all the other next-gen threads and leave it at that then we're good to go.

[Talk Show Host]

Will it be able to do x2 do anti aliasing I wonder...?

[Sygnar]

It is what it is I'd say.

[scottcr]

There is only one hourly bus from Strathaven to East Kilbride... I don't think that's what they mean by high performance.

[Smitty]

How many Molinas a second can this badboy shift?

Yeah, what's the MOPS (Molina Operations Per Second) here?

[scottcr]

it's missing a box that says 'EMOTION' in it.

Prediction... PS4 will come bundled with a Move controller as well.

[Sidewaysbob]

It had better be a nice colour that matches my mood. That could very well be a deal breaker ... and a blue LED ... Plenty of blue LED.

and a sound that goes ... "PIng" when i leave the house without enough money for the evening..

Then I'll be happy.