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38 minutes ago, p b said:

I missed the foul and don't really want to search for replays, as it seems nasty from everything you hear? What happened? (just the basics, please)


It was horrible.

 

Its actually not easy to tell where the actual break occurs, because after the tackle, Elliott kind of rolls over, then his leg flops in mid-air, in several places.

 

The worst part was watching him trying to get up afterwards, obviously in complete shock, and Salah holding him to stop him getting up, as Salah could see how awful it was.

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1 minute ago, Chewylegs said:

Dizogg was right, very distasteful going on about the red card decision. Unfortunately that thread might aswell be called 'We hate Liverpool football thread'. Bunch of haters (no, not all of them).

 

Honestly. Even us trying to justify why someone might have been given a red for being involved in a leg break gets a load of shit slung back. Cant be arsed.

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1 minute ago, Stigweard said:

 

Honestly. Even us trying to justify why someone might have been given a red for being involved in a leg break gets a load of shit slung back. Cant be arsed.

No - you said every time a tackle breaks a leg it is a red card. It's just not true. I presented clear evidence of this and you somehow still dispute it. 

Bizarre. 

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1 minute ago, Stoppy2000 said:

No - you said every time a tackle breaks a leg it is a red card. It's just not true. I presented clear evidence of this and you somehow still dispute it. 

Bizarre. 

 

What are you talking about? Son was given a red :lol: You presented me with a situation where a player was given a red card and I'm bizarre? Yes it was rescinded but a few days later, but what the fuck does that have to do with the ref on the pitch after the leg break? Was he or was he not given a red by the referee? 

 

Fucking hell 🙈

 

 

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1 minute ago, Stigweard said:

 

What are you talking about? Son was given a red :lol: You presented me with a situation where a player was given a red card and I'm bizarre? Yes it was rescinded but a few days later, but what the fuck does that have to do with the ref on the pitch after the leg break? Was he or was he not given a red by the referee? 

 

Fucking hell 🙈

 

 

He was incorrectly given a red card. The ref made a mistake. 

I'm not saying that this particular one was necessarily not a red. But to say a leg break is a default red is wrong. And provably so. 

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Just now, Stoppy2000 said:

He was incorrectly given a red card. The ref made a mistake. 

I'm not saying that this particular one was necessarily not a red. But to say a leg break is a default red is wrong. And provably so. 

 

Who gives a fuck about the red card, the kid has a broken lwg and is probably going to be out for the season!.

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1 minute ago, gospvg said:

 

Who gives a fuck about the red card, the kid has a broken lwg and is probably going to be out for the season!.

Yeah I'm not diminishing the injury. But on a purely rules based debate it's incorrect to say that a leg break is an automatic red card. 

Hopefully he'll be fine and it won't cause him any long term problems. 

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3 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

He was incorrectly given a red card. The ref made a mistake. 

I'm not saying that this particular one was necessarily not a red. But to say a leg break is a default red is wrong. And provably so. 

 

Literally wasn't your argument but whatever and I can't be arsed because you're literally moving the goalposts.

 

But what do I know, I'm just "flauncing off to my safe space".

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5 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

 

Literally wasn't your argument but whatever and I can't be arsed because you're literally moving the goalposts.

 

But what do I know, I'm just "flauncing off to my safe space".

"Mate, he broke his leg. It's an automatic red regardless of if there was intent or not."

 

These are your exact words. You are wrong. These aren't the rules. 

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13 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Is that worse than a break though? I've dislocated stuff before and it seemed to heal quicker than my breaks. Unless there's ligament damage too.  

 

Sounds like for a dislocated ankle that surgery is still involved and recovery time is similar to a broken leg, but I guess they'll talk about a timescale soon enough.

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8 minutes ago, Pockets said:


Arguing about it in the main football thread is fair enough if that’s what you want to do but following people into club threads to continue your weird campaign seems a lot like trolling or harassment to me. Reported. 

So for clarity - you are allowed to say something that isn't true and then disappear to the club only thread to hide from any replies? Also I never resorted to any insults. 

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39 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

So for clarity - you are allowed to say something that isn't true and then disappear to the club only thread to hide from any replies? Also I never resorted to any insults. 

Mate, are you being serious?  Hide from replies?  What is this, primary school?

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1 hour ago, Stoppy2000 said:

So for clarity - you are allowed to say something that isn't true and then disappear to the club only thread to hide from any replies? Also I never resorted to any insults. 

 

You're allowed to do what you want, including being a whiney man baby, as you have proven.

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52 minutes ago, Chewylegs said:

Mate, are you being serious?  Hide from replies?  What is this, primary school?

Apparently so. Spout off some nonsense then run off to a different part of the playground when someone points out what you have said is factually incorrect. 

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46 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

Apparently so. Spout off some nonsense then run off to a different part of the playground when someone points out what you have said is factually incorrect. 

 

Except you didn't, other people did and pointed out examples, but you didn't. We've already established Son was actually red carded because he broke a players leg, even if it was recinded. This is boring and tedious now.

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36 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

 

Except you didn't, other people did and pointed out examples, but you didn't. We've already established Son was actually red carded because he broke a players leg, even if it was recinded. This is boring and tedious now.

The fact it was rescinded means it wasn't a red card. I'm not sure how hard it is for you to understand that. Tedious indeed.

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12 hours ago, Stoppy2000 said:

The fact it was rescinded means it wasn't a red card. I'm not sure how hard it is for you to understand that. Tedious indeed.

Are you being stupid or being a wind up merchant? I've said multiple times now "in the moment" the referee gave a red card because of the leg break. I haven't disputed once that it was a red card offense or not. Yes, after review it was rescinded because it was deemed not to be foul play, but because Son was involved in breaking a player's leg the referee felt he had no option but to send the player off, the exact same thing yesterday.

 

You're banging on about Son challenge not actually being a red card offense but the facts are he was shown a red because he broke a player's leg and most referees will send a player off for doing this regardless of intent or not. Better they send a player off and the review rescinds it rater than not sending then off and finding out later it was a malicious challenge.

 

Your arguing a completely different thing here. I couldn't care less if it was a red card offense or not, the point is at that moment in time a player broke another player's leg which is why a red card was shown. Thats what I meant about it being an automatic red. It was the wrong choice of words by myself but the point being simply, I can see why a player is sent off for being involved in a leg break.

 

Also, why is anyone acting like it would have made a difference anyway? Leeds were shit.

 

 

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Maybe you guys could get a room? @Stigweard @Stoppy2000

 

I can't believe some of the nonsense I've been reading lately. It was red, no question. A scissoring tackle from behind with both legs off the ground to lunge. The injury isn't the problem. Craig Pawson now says that he was allowing the game to flow as per directive, but was always going to give the card. The 4th official saw it more clearly and decided instantly it was a red card. AS PER THE LAWS OF THE GAME!

 

But, because it's Liverpool and everyone can't wait to hate us, people are calling it harsh. Just the way they did 2 weeks ago when a handball on the line led to the red card that the laws of the game state was required. People are either ignorant, or choosing to want the punishment reduced when it's done against Liverpool. Excuse me if I play my victim card here, but it's absolutely sickening to see this happen week after week.

 

Klopp publicly called this out after the Burnley game, and the response outside of LFC circles was to call us moaners and whiners. Every Liverpool fan knows that referees ignore assaults on our players, and yet we're never the team that surrounds them on the field after any decision. We're also the team that wins the Fair Play league every year, so why they give us this treatment is beyond me. 

 

Basically, fuck non-LFC fans. @Stoppy2000, you are welcome here, we're nice guys, but your need to be right on the internet isn't. Spout that crap in the main thread all you like, nobody in this thread cares about Son getting a card in a game against the Bitters.

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