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The problem with it being a complete and confusing mess, is I honestly couldn't tell whether they were on the side of the whole speech about writers having to have tortured lives or against it.

 

Because Joseph Campbell was a massively racist and sexist hack to begin with so having a character (Morty) choosing to speak through him just brings up more questions.

 

And the idea that mental health problems and suffering is linked to great art in some way specifically is complete horseshit and very reductive, but again, I can't honestly tell if the show is trying to send that idea up, or if it's embracing it so much so that it's suggesting writers only have a choice between that or "happiness". Which is also nonsense.

 

Just complete tripe any which way I tried to look at it.

 

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In fact knowing that Dan Harmon apparently suffers from alcoholism and depression, it suggest to me that as a writer he's maybe internalised the idea that that suffering has to be in some way the reason he's able to be creative, as that's one way to explain the repeated nihilism in some of the show, the character of Rick, and also the direct conflating suffering with genius in this episode.

 

The psychiatrist insert in previous episodes might be a response to that, but feels more like an acknowledgment of the problem rather than necessarily agreeing with the psychiatrist that the writer's "pain" is a separate thing to their creativity.

 

In fact the more I think about all this stuff being throughout the show the more it seems pretty sad that it can never break out of that cycle and actually have Rick grow a little, because it clearly wants to do more than just have gags and gross out humour in it.

 

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1 hour ago, Shoes said:

Latest got right on my tits. Tosh.

Same here. So much effort put into utter garbage. Maybe there's a bunch of easter eggs or whatever I'm missing that unlocks it's genius but I'm not fussed. Also Previous Leon aka Red Gooblers voice makes my skin crawl.

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Well, cutting against the general consensus here, but I loved that. The story train episode is one of my favourites, so seeing more of that was great for me. 
 

8 hours ago, Benny said:

To be honest whenever they make references like that it always feels like "hey look, we know about a thing you might not have heard of", rather than actually demonstrate a particularly nuanced understanding of it.

 

I’d disagree on that, I feel like this one demonstrated a much more nuanced and interesting reference than most of their references. Your other points about the problems with him are fair, though I felt like they kind of made a mockery of him as a person despite Harmon’s obvious fondness for his theories. 

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3 hours ago, Broker said:

Well, cutting against the general consensus here, but I loved that. The story train episode is one of my favourites, so seeing more of that was great for me. 
 

 

I’d disagree on that, I feel like this one demonstrated a much more nuanced and interesting reference than most of their references. Your other points about the problems with him are fair, though I felt like they kind of made a mockery of him as a person despite Harmon’s obvious fondness for his theories. 

Me and you man. Fighting the good fight. 

 

I loved it too. 

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I thought this weeks was better than last week's but still left me a bit nonplussed. I'm not sure what it is, I'm just not really vibing with this season's second half so far.

 

I watched the anime special episode not long ago and that was great, so something has gone missing somewhere. It might just be because that special had toned down the nihilism a bit, I don't know.

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Solid ending to a much improved run over last year. For me the only weak episode was the Storylord sequel.

 

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Christmas/Lore/President/Star Wars is a helluva crutch, but I laughed each time the Noel Carol kicked in. Looking forward to the direction of next season.

 

”You look like Phil Spector wiped his ass with Randy Quaid.”

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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/justin-roiland-rick-morty-allegations-domestic-violence-charges-rcna65403

 

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Justin Roiland, the star and co-creator of the animated comedy series “Rick and Morty,” has been charged with felony domestic violence in Orange County, California, in connection with a 2020 incident, according to a criminal complaint filed in May 2020 by the Orange County District Attorney. He appeared in court Thursday for a pre-trial hearing.

 

Roiland pleaded not guilty in 2020. Roiland and his attorneys didn’t respond to requests for comment. 

 

NBC News obtained the criminal complaint in the case, which charges Roiland, 42, with one felony count of domestic battery with corporal injury and one felony count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud and/or deceit. NBC News is the first to report publicly on the case.

 

The complaint states the incident occurred on or about Jan. 19, 2020, against an anonymous Jane Doe who was dating Roiland at the time.

 

According to Orange County Superior Court records, Roiland pleaded not guilty to both charges in October 2020. Since then, the case has been the subject of more than a dozen court hearings, including pre-trial hearings. A trial date is not currently set. 

 

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44 minutes ago, Broker said:

With a series that popular there will assumedly be no shortage of people who can do a really good impression. 

 

There's a story that during the Simpsons cast's 1998 salary negotiations, someone at Fox claimed that they'd be able to find replacement voice actors on any college campus in America.

 

But the question is whether someone who can do a perfect imitation of existing lines can also act out new ones...

 

People who can do passable R&M voices must be almost as ubiquitous as people who thought they could do Homer in the '90s. For example, here's a very good Morty at 4:13:

 

 

 

Although if you ask me, they should pick the guy at 6:40. :eyebrows:

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