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IT was something to do with car width, the McLaren was deemed to be over the maximum width when measured after the race but had previously passed examination prior to the race. At the following race Hunt had a "Wide Vehicle" sticker on his car iirc.

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The last para is golden....

FORMULA ONE boss Bernie Ecclestone says he introduced controversial rules to award double points for the last race of the season in order to help Ferrari compete.

The oldest and most celebrated team on the grid have not won a world championship since 2007 a predicament Ecclestone says contributed to his passing the rule, despite widespread opposition.

Ecclestone said of Ferrari chief Luca di Montezemolo: He was talking about it and I said: It is very simple why we got that [rule]. It is because you arent performing. If you were doing what you should be doing there wouldnt be any need for it. He said: I know, I know.

*INSERT ANGRY SMILEY*

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This was talked about a bit on the Midweek Motorsport podcast last week and the opion they had was that as of the last few years, Ferrari need F1 more than F1 needs Ferrari.

so, I don;t think they'll pull out. They still get huge funding from marlboro (who then sell the ad space on to third parties) - the race team is probably self-sufficient and doesn;t drain cash from the car business. It seems unlikely that if Ferrari were to up sticks and go and play in P1 in the WEC that they'd get anything like the sponsorship because of the lower level of exposure of that championship (of course, a works Ferrari P1 team would probably see WEC getting a lot more coverage, but there's a huge gap between the two championships)

so, on balance, I think it;s very unlikely ferrari will leave F1. in terms of the exposure it gives, for the cost to the business, it's a great deal for them. They certainly aren't happy about a lot of things in recent F1 (the way the most recent concorde agreement has shovelled money at Red Bull, The turbo engines, the double points) but I couldn;t see them leaving.

They certainly seem to be thinking about going in to the top level of WEC P1 - Luca's spoken about it and we have seen that camouflaged LaFerrari/458/F1 engine hack testing at Fiorano, but if it happens, it'll be alongside F1. Ferrari spent years in the F1 doldrums before and it didn't hurt their brand much at the time.

A more significant danger to bernie is Deitrich Mateschitz getting bored of it and offloading the RB team - hence that concorde settlement. (though it's worth saying that as a proportion of Red Bull's global marketing budget - the money spent on the race team and Toro Rosso isn't a huge proportion). Iteresting to note that Mateschitz did complain about the planned budget cap very recently.

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That's because they can't off load a portion of the team to a WEC program, unlike Ferrari, Merc or McLaren they don't build cars to go GT pr prototype racing with, Redbull do F1 and only F1. he wants to keep his team together and not fire half the work force, come the cost cap.

As for Ferrari going to P1 ... i can't see it happening, Monty has been winking and smirking at the ACO for years, dropping hints about a "coming back to win this time". Its all talk. and that La Ferrari think is just a mule for the F1 engine. I'm not even sure its going to be a GT3 car. Ferrari definatly need F1 more than F1 needs them at the moment.

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Its been a long time since Ferrari had a top line Sportscar program. (and no that 333sp thing didn't count as it was ugly)

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more significant danger to bernie is Deitrich Mateschitz getting bored of it and offloading the RB team - hence that concorde settlement. (though it's worth saying that as a proportion of Red Bull's global marketing budget - the money spent on the race team and Toro Rosso isn't a huge proportion). Iteresting to note that Mateschitz did complain about the planned budget cap very recently.

Two or three years back I saw something saying that in terms of the "advertising value" of them being in F1 - that's mentions of the Red Bull name/images of the logo in the media and press - they're getting something like £8 worth of exposure for every pound put into the team.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112434

Formula 1 teams and the FIA are to discuss plans for an immediate shake-up of qualifying rules to boost the spectacle, AUTOSPORT can reveal.

Motor racing's governing body has convened a meeting with team managers for February 21, during the next F1 test in Bahrain, to discuss changing the format of qualifying for 2014.

The move has come after concerns were expressed in the recent F1 Strategy Group meeting that drivers may be more inclined this season to not run in Q3 in a bid to save tyres for the race.

To prevent qualifying being a turn-off for fans, the Strategy Group has asked that teams and the FIA discuss ideas to ensure that drivers are forced to push in Q3 for the best grid positions.

Under the current rules, the top 10 drivers have to start the grand prix on the set of tyres that they set their best Q3 time on.

That has led to situations where drivers have elected to sit out the final qualifying session because it gives them a free tyre choice which can benefit their strategy for the race.

The aim of the February 21 meeting is to try to come up with a consensus for rules tweaks that will ensure that the spectacle of Q3 delivers.

AUTOSPORT has learned that a host of proposals are being put forward for discussion.

They include forcing the 10 drivers who make it through to Q3 to start the race on the set of tyres that they set their best Q2 lap on.

That means that there will be no incentive to sit out Q3.

Furthermore, there is an idea to hand drivers extra sets of tyres for the final qualifying segment, which are returned to the FIA afterwards, that will allow them to push for the fastest lap without worrying it will compromise their race chances.

F1 tyre supplier Pirelli has always said it is open to the idea of supplying such qualifying tyres if teams wanted it.

There will also be discussions about lengthening the duration of Q3 to ensure there is enough time for the top 10 drivers to complete two timed qualifying runs.

If any changes are to be made to the qualifying rules for this season then it will require unanimous support from all teams at the meeting.

If such backing is found, the rules tweaks will be put to the F1 Commission and the FIA's World Motor Sport Council for ratification before the season-opening Australian Grand Prix on March 16.

But although the changes would likely improve the spectacle of Q3, some teams could object if they felt the new rules could hurt their competitiveness.

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