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I've only just checked the score, genuine horror before massive relief it's currently 16-1. Kind of glad it's Burns as well as he has the least to prove in the top order at the moment.

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I think they all have a lot to prove still and nobody should be feeling particularly secure. Burns did well against New Zealand but that was off the back of poor form, for example. 

 

Anyway, yet again England forego a spinner which I just don't get. You can talk about balance all you want, but surely a spinner should be part of that equation? It's not as if the extra batsmen (whomever they pick) has scored runs of late.

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They're just scared of not having the most number of batsmen as they can get, especially with Stokes out. As you say, though, this hasn't stopped the collapses and batting failures anyway and just limits the bowling options. Seems to be team selection out of fear rather than confidence - the opposite of what they've done in being successful in the limited overs formats.

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Yeah, the fact they feel they always need the extra batsman says there is no real confidence in the top order (justified, of course). 

 

I reckon Sibley might be rested/rotated/dropped (depending on how England try and spin it) if he fails in the second innings too, once again he sucks up balls and does nothing with it - and that was a terrible dismissal, such an obvious trap. It could/should be an opening for Hameed to have a go for the rest of the series. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sirloin said:

Combination of being increasingly pigeonholed as a white ball specialist and good old British racism.

I hoped it wouldn't be something so stupid as this but it makes sense. Didn't he totally take India apart on the last tour?

 

Anyway, classic England, left for a swim when it was Root and Bairstow batting, now I turn it on to hear the crowd going mad for a Broad boundary.

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I've bemoaned it before, but this side has regressed massively over the last few years. I know there haven't been the players coming through, but none of the current squad seem to be improving either; the fact they have gone back to Bairstow - a player whose test career has been over at least a couple of times - speaks volumes. 

 

And how many times have they batted first and been all out on the first day (after winning the toss again, no less)?

 

I hope they don't try and trot out that Stokes not being around has been a big impact, because that would be an easy - and cheap - shot to take (although this batting line-up would probably try to take it and miss). Once again you have to feel sorry for the bowlers. 

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They’ve been set to fail here mind. How much red ball cricket has most of the days played this summer? It’s been minimal. The T20 World Cup is the focus this year and it’s really showing. All of the young players coming through are short form specialists as well. Brook, Jacks, Clarke, Smeed, Banton and probably a couple more I’ve forgotten don’t play that much red ball. Clarke is the clear stand out, but he’s had behavioural concerns and seems to be black balled, which is a shame as he’s a real talent. Hameed has to come in I think next Test. Was surprised he didn’t open this Test.

 

EDIT: any why pick Curran if you are playing 7 batsmen? If you play with 4 seamers pick the 4 best seamers, not 3 and an all rounder.

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2 hours ago, Sirloin said:

They’ve been set to fail here mind. How much red ball cricket has most of the days played this summer? It’s been minimal. The T20 World Cup is the focus this year and it’s really showing. All of the young players coming through are short form specialists as well. Brook, Jacks, Clarke, Smeed, Banton and probably a couple more I’ve forgotten don’t play that much red ball. Clarke is the clear stand out, but he’s had behavioural concerns and seems to be black balled, which is a shame as he’s a real talent. Hameed has to come in I think next Test. Was surprised he didn’t open this Test.

 

EDIT: any why pick Curran if you are playing 7 batsmen? If you play with 4 seamers pick the 4 best seamers, not 3 and an all rounder.

That's true for India too, plus they are away from home - English players not being able to play in English conditions is, well, typically English at this point.

 

It's a tricky one for the management - they can't come out and just say the players are poor, but they must be having serious doubts about Sibley & Lawrence at the very least, though I'd also throw Burns, Crawley and Bairstow into the mix too. Bairstow obviously used to be able to perform but his technique doesn't look to have changed all that much, other than to protect from being bowled he now just gets out LBW instead. Crawley has definite promise (as does Lawrence, to be fair) but I think he needs to learn his trade a bit more in the County game. Burns I've never really warmed to and an opener with an average of 33-ish is never going to be a star of the game, but he's the most secure of the group for better or worse at the moment.

 

Sibley I think has to be done though. I've moaned about him for over a year now that it's all very well being a blocker of the new ball, but you still have to be able to score during opening spells and then push on at the bowling change - but he just can't and it's painful watching him play. Did I hear a stat that he had the slowest opening session of any England bowler ever? Regardless, I just don't think he's anywhere near good enough - especially when partnered with Burns, who also plods along.

 

The obvious question is "Who is there to come in?" and I don't know, but Hameed for certain and then it's a free for all. Hell, bring Ian Bell out of retirement or something, because this lot aren't working.

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I quite like Sibley in a perverse way. It does feel like we've been having this conversation for years now though and I'm all for some fresh faces.

 

Watching the highlights, Root looks tired and England don't look like they are having much fun. Maybe they need a pool and some inflatable unicorns?

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14 hours ago, Gabe said:

That's true for India too, plus they are away from home - English players not being able to play in English conditions is, well, typically English at this point.

 

It's a tricky one for the management - they can't come out and just say the players are poor, but they must be having serious doubts about Sibley & Lawrence at the very least, though I'd also throw Burns, Crawley and Bairstow into the mix too. Bairstow obviously used to be able to perform but his technique doesn't look to have changed all that much, other than to protect from being bowled he now just gets out LBW instead. Crawley has definite promise (as does Lawrence, to be fair) but I think he needs to learn his trade a bit more in the County game. Burns I've never really warmed to and an opener with an average of 33-ish is never going to be a star of the game, but he's the most secure of the group for better or worse at the moment.

 

Sibley I think has to be done though. I've moaned about him for over a year now that it's all very well being a blocker of the new ball, but you still have to be able to score during opening spells and then push on at the bowling change - but he just can't and it's painful watching him play. Did I hear a stat that he had the slowest opening session of any England bowler ever? Regardless, I just don't think he's anywhere near good enough - especially when partnered with Burns, who also plods along.

 

The obvious question is "Who is there to come in?" and I don't know, but Hameed for certain and then it's a free for all. Hell, bring Ian Bell out of retirement or something, because this lot aren't working.


Both the India openers are going slower than Sibley did yesterday. It’s the lack of kicking on that’s killing him. He’s basically doing half the job well.

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25 minutes ago, Sirloin said:


Both the India openers are going slower than Sibley did yesterday. It’s the lack of kicking on that’s killing him. He’s basically doing half the job well.

Well yeah, I've said as much in my initial post and many times before, the fact he has no ability to push on.

 

Both Indians are currently at higher strike rates than Sibley though (as well as scoring more, of course) and with more boundaries - in what way are they going slower? 

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42 minutes ago, Gabe said:

Well yeah, I've said as much in my initial post and many times before, the fact he has no ability to push on.

 

Both Indians are currently at higher strike rates than Sibley though (as well as scoring more, of course) and with more boundaries - in what way are they going slower? 


They are now, they weren’t when I posted :) Rahul has sped up a lot.

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Bad news for Archer - it's gutting for him to effectively cap 2 years of on/off injuries with this latest setback. It seems to have been a persistent problem, you have to worry that it may never be quite right. 

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7 minutes ago, Sirloin said:

About 2.5 hours. The one I went to started at 6:30 and we were done just past 9.

 

Thanks, tickets are quite reasonable, will take the kids to Birmingham to visit relatives & Edgbaston in the evening.

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