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Clear skies tonight. Off to Emmets i think. About the only place anywhere decent for space in the South East. Really need to give the Samyang a run.

 

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Enjoying the views of Birmingham by @Ste_S :wub:  

 

some more of mine, all from August 2017: 

 

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The (seemingly) biannual giant-plastic-animals-invade-Birmingham game sees bears come to the city this year, a hundred six foot tall plastic bears decorated in different ways in public places and 130+ three foot tall bears inside shops and galleries and the like.  Here's an Ewok in the Eastisde city park in the city centre, I'll confess I've been a bit obsessed by these guys this year and have photographed 141 (according to the app) so far.  I've got another couple of weeks to get more before they disappear. 

 

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Another bear up in St Paul's square.  I didn't notice the lady who had walked into shot until I got home. Luckily her top is a similar colour to the church. :lol:

 

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Nuneaton bus station. 

 

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55th anniversary of Jamaican independence celebrations in Victoria Square. Birmingham has a lot of people with Jamaican heritage and they were barbecuing up a storm all weekend. There was live music and a street market too, but I liked the people chilling on the steps. 

 

20687850_470797026633694_78666664802202420635037_111209539552021_794374190172995These two pictures were taken about two hours apart. The sunny skies over Birmingham while it was absolutely pissing it down in London.  

 

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White Horse Bridge (which needs a lick of paint) looking towards the national Stadium, Wembley. 

 

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My son outside Harvey Nicks, Birmingham. I took a load of these as he was bouncing about like a six year old.  Some of the other pictures are probably better as he's moving about a bit more and it looks good where he is blocking out some of the lights behind him. I'm a bit weird about putting photos of him on t'internet though so this is the one I've chosen. I still think it a cool shot though. 

 

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Gas Street Basin, Birmingham. 

 

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A bit too much noise in this photo I guess, but the sun setting over Warwickshire on Friday night. There was a hell of a storm about ten minutes after I took this picture, lord knows how much rain fell but I was driving in it (I took this picture as I was heading to the car) and before I'd gone ten miles there were several inches of standing water on the roads in places.  Murder in the air I guess. 

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A few classic car show photos from a couple of weeks back.

 

Shot with my Olympus OM-1, 50mm f/1.8 on Ilford Delta 100.

 

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FILM - Chevy by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Mk1 Escort by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Cobra curves by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Lambretta by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Classics on The Moor 2017-11 by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Hunter by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - The back of the Seven by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Super Seven by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

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FILM - Lines and curves by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

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On 18/08/2017 at 17:54, iwan_canobi said:

Yeah it is, you can actually see it with the naked eye sometimes up here, we are in the countryside and beyond my back garden there actually isn't any major settlement to speak of until the coast of Dumfries and Galloway which is about 150 miles away! I need to try again with a wider lens and a moonless night and see what I can resolve.

 

I notice on your FlickR it says you took those at ISO 400 and 800.

 

I went out the other day and couldn't capture anywhere near that amount of stars at ISO 800. I tried bumping the ISO up to 1600 and 3200 but there is far too much noise when I go that high.

 

Did you photoshop them to bring out all the detail?

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3 hours ago, Malc said:

 

I notice on your FlickR it says you took those at ISO 400 and 800.

 

I went out the other day and couldn't capture anywhere near that amount of stars at ISO 800. I tried bumping the ISO up to 1600 and 3200 but there is far too much noise when I go that high.

 

Did you photoshop them to bring out all the detail?

 

Yeah I had to play about a bit with levels and contrast etc, I shot in raw so it was all done in the raw import into photoshop! What lens are you using? That was shot at f/1.7 so it's wide open which helps make the most of the little available light! That and a fair whack of luck! :D

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Cheers @Naysonymous, much appreciated

 

Olympus Trip, Tri-X. First time shooting in B&W certainly makes you look at the world in a different way

 

36547823402_35a13a33ab_c.jpgIron Man by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36578584191_0fba787c92_c.jpg000109230022.jpg by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36578588681_cd02ae804d_c.jpg000109230031.jpg by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36717187985_398e872cba_c.jpgDucks by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36717194505_a9d7cb868d_c.jpgRaptor by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36717199655_34eceab5bf_c.jpgBarber Institute by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36717205665_83ccba3d99_c.jpgSkyline by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

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19 hours ago, iwan_canobi said:

 

Yeah I had to play about a bit with levels and contrast etc, I shot in raw so it was all done in the raw import into photoshop! What lens are you using? That was shot at f/1.7 so it's wide open which helps make the most of the little available light! That and a fair whack of luck! :D

 

I'm using the standard kit lense that came with my camera, which says 3.5-5.6/18-70mm.

 

Unfortunately I've just looked at all my RAW files I took the other night and realised they are all at the 5.6 setting. After googling it I've realised the camera wont let you go to f3.5 unless your fully zoomed out at 18mm. I must have been slightly zoomed in, and that's why I couldn't make the aperature any bigger.

 

Maybe f3.5 would have given me more light to play with...

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1 hour ago, Malc said:

 

I'm using the standard kit lense that came with my camera, which says 3.5-5.6/18-70mm.

 

Unfortunately I've just looked at all my RAW files I took the other night and realised they are all at the 5.6 setting. After googling it I've realised the camera wont let you go to f3.5 unless your fully zoomed out at 18mm. I must have been slightly zoomed in, and that's why I couldn't make the aperature any bigger.

 

Maybe f3.5 would have given me more light to play with...

 

f/3.5 is a over a stop wider than f/5.6, so you'd have been getting more than double the amount of light. Definitely worthwhile in astrophotography as it would mean you'd capture more detail for the same length of exposure (although the lens might not be quite as sharp fully open)..

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hello rllmuk, i made a photobook. Why? I don't know. I don't know! :(

 

http://www.blurb.co.uk/b/8126840-aehii

 

Has anyone tried to do this? Or is more prints, competitions, photo becoming stock more the route for others?

 

I'm gonna explain everything as though I'm in college and asked to do an evaluation. It will be insufferable, you might want to get a sick bag.

 

I started this in January 2015. I looked at different photobook sites, blurb seemed the most professional. I tried different types of paper and sizes and how best to present my photos. I wanted to get the cost down to £10-£15, but the black and white paper they offer is basically only good for text and monochrome, for subtle changes in tone it can't do it. The economoy colour paper is the same. I like the soft grey rough look for some photos over the shining look of the thicker paper, but if it's ruining a lot of shots i couldn't use it. Also, the book build wasn't great, the paper was easily being torn out. So standard colour is what I went for, the base price is something like £22 with shipping. I did a book of 480 pages but the paper is thicker and it's softcover so it's this chunky thing you can't bend to see the full photos. At that point i thought i could include every photo ever. I mixed in animals with people to make a blunt point, and thematically there's continuity there and creates the kind of contrast i want. But it becomes a kind of collection with no rhythm or sense. So i thought of how best to anchor everything: by year, by country, city, subject. I don't think i can get enough for a book if i visit a country. I can't do France, a book. Then Spain. Unless I spent a year there. So...i decided on going by alphabet. I wanted to have a series of books going by code names that you know how far through by the first letter. So it can easily correspond to year. I think i can do 24 before I die. One every 1 or 2 years before reaching 75. yeah. Because Sufjan Stevens' state project went so well for him. I like made up words. aehii, d ebolenk, pervent aline perio grow death, do hoxem bend crisis, nukile backering, odlein luip, loik v credern. No photo has a name, so they can fall under these. The cover i absolutely wanted to use was of the dragon that's turning, it had a circular mark that when high contrasted as black and white and if you aren't aware what you're looking at like it's more alien planet than dragon. I showed it at work. What's that? 'A mess'. Great reaction !

 

So aehii is the first book name. Manchester is largely the place. 2013 largely the year. They'll be no text inside, the first photo will be sat on its own. I made it so you turn a portrait book to the side and open the landscape shots upwards. I liked the idea of picking two photos that sit vertically next to eachother and bleed into eachother. I like the idea of the top shot of being of a street from a distance and the bottom of being of a face. So that distortion of scale. I went mad with that at first, trying to team up the two most contrasting photos. Gradually, i've tried to form a more cohesive whole. Even now i don't like how it flows, i don't want to set the scene and then show 3 pages of photos of just that, because they're just single shots, it's not an exploration. And it'd get repetitive, samey. I want contrast  but a consistent mood. That 480 page book cost about £45. So cutting to 280 pages costs £35. Profit set at £3 lol. It's still too much. You don't pay VAT when you buy your book (you have to before you sell), but the public does. You decide whether public or private with a link, decide on tags, what pages you show. I picked 19 photos spread throughout. My whole interpretation about art is that you present a glimpse of something and it's interesting and different enough that it intrigues enough that you are excited about seeing more. I mean, I am. I would be. That's it. The subject doesn't change, it's never gonna be more than people, animals and structures. So book 2 would be more of the same and the style will change, there won't be multiple exposures, hopefully the same thing will evolve and become more sophisticated. They'll mainly cover a year or two. I have a lot of zoo photos i like, and thought it'd be neat to do a zoo book. When i put tigers and turtles in with people shopping it shifts your focus so much there's no established sense of place. I think that's it; you can reduce everything to shape and mood and the subject is secondary but it gives it an amateurish scrapbook feel of an overall best of collection. I thought very late to put them in the middle. I have a dozen old photos at a different ratio in the middle to represent the past. It could be with every book you have some zoo photos in the middle. But i prefer the middle to be other stuff, animals outside of a zoo, placed in an environment around manchester, or the place represented. I've been to a lot of zoos now that can be presented as a distorted tourist guide. When you decide on a subject like that you're allowing for a huge chunk of time to get the required amount, 279 photos. Then you decide never to go to a zoo ever again?

 

Generally, If i commit to having to fill up books and need variation, less people more buildings, it's the best motivation. Some shots are alright for edit if you can flatten the things in the shot but in the moment i can never tell, the inability to learn is astounding.


I spent obscene amounts of time going back through every single photo, finding some i missed, re editing them. I tested how dark they should be, whether to use greyscale or desaturate, tried to remember and handle hundreds of photos so some wouldn't be missed. They'll bleed over into book 2, a transition that by the end will move on a bit more. £35 though? Too much. I don't know any other site who can do them cheaper. I think with photobooks I like i prefer photos to fill the page. My stuff is so forced attempt at composition, a graphic design sensibility, it's none of the authenticity that breathes through natural full page film shots of actual environments. ok thats it bye is it worth me using this as a weapon to annoy the rest of the forum £35 fuck off i know too much it's all online i know good christmas present for grandma though no no not really i'm gonna try leaving rllmuk for 5 months from tomorrow wish me luck ive not been to my home planet in a while i've forgotten what name i go by there

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4 hours ago, pervent aline perio grow d said:

hello rllmuk, i made a photobook. Why? I don't know. I don't know! :(

 

http://www.blurb.co.uk/b/8126840-aehii

 

Has anyone tried to do this? Or is more prints, competitions, photo becoming stock more the route for others?

...

 

Nice one.

 

I've been toying with the idea myself (albeit not to sell, but as a way of collecting shots I like in a physical format). How did you find out the quality of the paper etc.? Do they provide samples, or did you have to buy 'test' books?

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7 hours ago, FishyFish said:

Nice one.

 

I've been toying with the idea myself (albeit not to sell, but as a way of collecting shots I like in a physical format). How did you find out the quality of the paper etc.? Do they provide samples, or did you have to buy 'test' books?

 

Well obviously i won't sell any, it's more to be able to do it, my reason was to just put something together like you say, but committing to actually making the book public puts a full stop to all the attempts. It's quite neat to browse the blurb site, it is pretty professional. Looking at the various books. There's so much going on out there in the world, all the time. I thought after 40 minutes of submitting i'd try to find it on the first page to see it having dropped on the 'new' section due to others uploading, to see how it compares to the deviantart game of browsing 'new' immediately after you submit anything to catch it amongst everything else. You've got to be quick or lucky.

 

I really wanted a cheap book, packed with an endless stream of photos. To go through the 480 page one is a bit of an endurance. You don't know where you are at any point. Never really thought what the perfect length is for a photobook, but it's not 480 pages.

 

£35 is the limit i'd pay for a photobook. I think with the coffee table book thing, and photo books in general, it's obviously about the high quality of the photo and paper, just the expense of travel and camera equipment. But i want trashy, punk, amateurish, cheap production but the essence being good. £35 doesn't work for it, the cost to be surprised. Free is best.

 

Maybe i could have asked them for samples, but i was also testing my photos so I just spent £15 each time, looking at how dark they'd come across, how sharp they are, if i prefer them softened, whether I stretch the low resolution ones I put up on the internet or whether I need to find the originals again. They have a page where you can see the differences of a photo, but it isn't a lot of help. If you go higher quality i think books go up to £80 easily.

 

Trying to put one together is the biggest time sink ever. More than rllmuk, roller coaster tycoon, pro evolution soccer. You should definitely do it !

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After shooting film for a while, tried digital again over the bank holiday weekend.  Enjoyed using a DSLR again, but find the post processing a pain in the arse.

 

For film, the scans that I get back from filmdev i'm generally happy with and never need to do anything other than fiddle with exposure for under exposed shots. With digital I tend to have fiddle a bit in Lightroom to get results I like.

Any recommendations for stock Lightroom presets to speed this up ? Tried the film emulation in Exposure but wasn't happy with the results. 

Ideally just want Tri-X, Portra and Ektar presets to tie my digital photos in with my film ones.

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Discovered the answer to my question - Colour Efex, part of Google's now free Nik collection.

 

More Brum shots, digital this time with film filters. 

 

 

36044537133_047e8747fa_c.jpgStairs by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36044535273_e8872bf634_c.jpgTelephone by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36018947674_9efb7aef26_c.jpgDSC_6079-Edit.jpg by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36018941714_a2f0789f00_c.jpgOpinion by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36682565762_177af6b2c8_c.jpgClear by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Ste_S said:

After shooting film for a while, tried digital again over the bank holiday weekend.  Enjoyed using a DSLR again, but find the post processing a pain in the arse.

 

For film, the scans that I get back from filmdev i'm generally happy with and never need to do anything other than fiddle with exposure for under exposed shots. With digital I tend to have fiddle a bit in Lightroom to get results I like.

Any recommendations for stock Lightroom presets to speed this up ? Tried the film emulation in Exposure but wasn't happy with the results. 

Ideally just want Tri-X, Portra and Ektar presets to tie my digital photos in with my film ones.

 

You may wanna have a look at some of the VSCO sets that are available, they have some fantastic emulation. And you may want to "trial" them first to find what you are looking for!

 

 

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A few shots on 20+ year expired Kodak Tri-X film. Shot with the Yashica Mat 124 G.


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FILM - Footbridge-2 by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Cobweb Bridge by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Walk Mill Weir by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Pigeon Street by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Partial shade by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Burton Weir by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

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7 hours ago, Ste_S said:

@FishyFish Looks fine for 20 year old film, if anything it looks slightly smoother for Tri-X ?

 

Thanks, yeah looks pretty well, all things considered.

 

I shot another roll of expired film recently (some shots on the same day as the Tri-X) - this was a roll of Kodak Tmax 100 that expired in 1994. To say I'm pleased with the results would be a bit of an understatement - the stuff is gorgeous! I shot these with a Nikon F70 and Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AF-D.

 

Here're are a few that I've uploaded to Flickr so far:


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FILM - White rose by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Starburst by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Oak by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr


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FILM - Flowers by fishyfish_arcade, on Flickr

 

 

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16 hours ago, FishyFish said:

To say I'm pleased with the results would be a bit of an understatement - the stuff is gorgeous!

 

Can't argue with that, the rose in shot 1 is stunning. I'll have to give Tmax a go myself at some point

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Back to film again, Olympus Trip 35 and Portra 400. Have a suspicion that the light meter (or the shutter speeds) are getting a bit off as some shots are coming out under exposed in daylight. These some ok though

 

36754789702_0d9cb79593_c.jpgDummies by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36921900965_95f34bbe13_c.jpgOpen by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36087653934_9d3bb3e268_c.jpgLights by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36525609280_948e4236a1_c.jpgShield by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

 

36921902045_7c5446dbf2_c.jpgBirthday by Stephen Sanders, on Flickr

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They're reasonably discreet if you're worried above someone stealing your images ? 

I've seen some terrible watermarks in the past, mostly on horribly over processed images

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If you're worried about someone pinching your images, don't put them on the internet!

 

That said, if someone does pinch your images and they are used commercially you can invoice them :)

 

I watermark images on my website purely because I think aesthetically it looks better (I have one of those fancy signature watermarks in a corner)

 

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