The Flash - TV series

[Tezcatlipoca]

Something else: If Barry needs more speed to save Iris in the future, why not use the tachyon boost thing he used the first time he went to Kara's Earth back when he previously needed to be faster than ever before?

[MDY]

Because the last of the logic wheels finally fell off somewhere just after the end of the first series..

First season was great, but it's been a downward curve ever since..

[Salsa Party Animal]

Flash have seen a future murder and he want to fight to prevent it. If he know the date, just take a holiday in another location to prevent it happening  But TV never work like that. 

[makkuwata]

The deep heart of Earth 2 Africa sure looks a lot like medieval England from this week's Legends and a lot like every planet SG-1 ever visited.

[Hexx]

Jesus Christ. The same forest being used for "Africa" might be the most hilarious the show has ever been.

[Tezcatlipoca]

The very end was spoiled a bit by the recap. Far from the worst example I've seen, but it's still always annoying when that happens, or when it's spoiled by the cast mentioned in the starting credits.

[Lorfarius]

The cgi was terrible in the arena.... if you can't do it right then why bother?

[Hexx]

It was ok. I think they do well on their budget, and I'd rather they try.

 

We've had dodgy special effects (including partical effects) for YEARS - effects being obvious/poor aren't a new thing for CGI

 

[MDY]

The ape CGI was generally really good for a TV budget.. last weeks ep was good fun.. just a shame how dour and ~boring~ this follow-up was.. plus the whole 'invasion' boiled down to a really brief couple of skirmishes at the end.. It's not really much of a threat when it's a few dozen targets who would have no real protection from firearms..

Plus with three speedsters there, only one tries to get the gun off mind-controlled Joe, but waits until AFTER he pulls the trigger???

Harry suddenly being super obnoxious for no real reason felt very off too..

 

Also the whole nuke launch was beyond stupid.. (not even counting that ALL the world's nukes were supposedly launched then destroyed in flight at the end of last season on Arrow) if the thing runs on floppy disks, it won't respond fast enough for you to enter every possible code combination in under a minute (especially if you keep stopping to moan it's not working..) Plus it looked like the launcher that Oliver stopped working by yanking a out couple of circuit boards..

 

Anyone remember when Barry used to be fun and use his brain and forensic skills? 

All he seems to do now is moan that he can't do something to his team until they reassure him he can..

 

Although ultra tactless comment award goes to Cisco bemoaning his lack of success in love to ~Caitlin~ who has had two love interests DIE at the start and end of last season (as well as the latter being revealed as the big bad!) 

[Darwock]

The missile thing really did stick out, re-use of props I can forgive, but Cisco not being able to do anything about this old nuclear technology was very convenient/surpising when Felicity's remorse over redirecting similar missiles has been a recurring theme in Arrow.

 

I also thought it was a bit strange that there was this massive army of armoured gorillas advancing upon the city, but there was no public response whatsoever. Nobody showed any interest except Team Flash.

 

Cisco was always the star of the show, but his "Don't front - you're into me" line and delivery gave me the dry boak. A step too far for that character I reckon.

 

I hope they get back on track. The first season was daft but coherent. Recently it's been reminiscent of shows that were fatally wounded by poor writing (Heroes/the V remake).

 

I also think they need to change the opening monologue - "...and I'm the only one fast enough to save her"

 

 

...or so I thought but actually I'm not fast enough - Kid Flash is the only one fast enough to save her!

[makkuwata]

Yeah, massive army of super-gorillas and not calling Kara or even Oliver is a bit silly when that's the established rule for invasions.

[Lorfarius]

Spoiler

Quite why he didn't ask Arrow to kill Grodd was beyond me, they were going that way Even if he did call Kara or Arrow they would have turned up expecting it to be yet another speedster. Christ they've done that to death.

 

[JohnC]

 

[MDY]

Oh look, Barry's being an idiot (again) and people in the team are keeping secrets (again!)

 

[Hexx]

2 hours ago, MDY said:

Oh look, Barry's being an idiot (again) and people in the team are keeping secrets (again!)

 

 

Yeah it's really hard to root for any of these unlikeable berks at the moment.

Also dropping anvils about Saviatar

 

I've always found Wally and arrogant, self centered entitled dick - so felt no real

loss that he's "gone".

And it more felt like he got his just deserts rather than being tricked/played on
 

Sav's gotta be future Barry right?

 

 

 

[DarhkFox]

Surely Barry should have said the reason he asked her to marry him was because they might not have long left together.

 

Would have went down better I thought.

[Darwock]

If Wally was sharp enough to figure out that Barry proposed in an attempt to change the future/keep Iris alive then why the sweet f**k would he try to change it back again?? He's more keen on making Barry look bad than keeping his sister alive?

 

I don't understand how quality is dropping so low that the writers don't even give their characters sensible motivations. They get enough time off with all the huge gaps in the broadcast schedule, surely they don't have to hash it all out in the last 30 mins before shooting starts?

[Tezcatlipoca]

I don't understand why Caitlyn was apologising again at the very end of the episode.

 

Spoiler

If she hadn't secretly kept a piece of the Stone for herself, Ultron would have escaped the Speed Force weeks ago.

 

 

[Hexx]

24 minutes ago, Darwock said:

 

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If Wally was sharp enough to figure out that Barry proposed in an attempt to change the future/keep Iris alive then why the sweet f**k would he try to change it back again?? He's more keen on making Barry look bad than keeping his sister alive?

 

 

I don't understand how quality is dropping so low that the writers don't even give their characters sensible motivations. They get enough time off with all the huge gaps in the broadcast schedule, surely they don't have to hash it all out in the last 30 mins before shooting starts?

 

Thing is - it's nonsense.

 

Wally's assuming Barry saw Iris wasn't married/didn't wear a ring

 

He's assuming that Iris hadn't lost her ring (like when being oh...kidnapped and murdered).

 

Rather than approach Barry quietly - he just calls him out in front of everyone!

[Gambit]

They should leave Wally in the speed force. The stupid dick.

[JohnC]

They've said the main villain next year won't be a speedster. About time.

[Lorfarius]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

They've said the main villain next year won't be a speedster. About time.

 

It'll be a mad jogger, They won't give up on runners.

[Revival]

7 hours ago, JohnC said:

They've said the main villain next year won't be a speedster. About time.

 

Two speedsters?

[Lorfarius]

It'd be nice if the series was about The Flash and not his speedster friends. There's way too many popping up constantly.

[Gambit]

Fucks sake Wally. Because of your idiocy the much more awesome Jay Garrick has to stay trapped. You useless gobshite.

 

Also, this episode made me remember how much I miss Wentworth Millers brand of acting/

[Tezcatlipoca]

(Musical) Crossover with Supergirl this week (in the US, I have no idea where Sky's up to).

 

Given that Melissa Benoist and Grant Gustin can actually sing, as can the guest villain they both worked with previously, I'm hopeful that it will actually work. The premise is interesting.

[JohnC]

Victor Garber is coming to it too. Despite last weeks Legends (  ) he can apparently sing too. 

[Harsin]

"Oh no the Trickster is about to detonate a nuke! Save us Flash!"

"Sorry mate, didn't you hear our Flash decided to trap himself in the speed force to save some idiotic chucklefuck from an Earth that already had at least two speedsters left?"

"Shit”

[Tezcatlipoca]

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Victor Garber is coming to it too. Despite last weeks Legends (  ) he can apparently sing too. 

 

That scene in Legends made me cringe.

 

Just now, Harsin said:

 

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"Oh no the Trickster is about to detonate a nuke! Save us Flash!"

 

"Sorry mate, didn't you hear our Flash decided to trap himself in the speed force to save some idiotic chucklefuck from an Earth that already had at least two speedsters left?"

"Shit”

 

 

 

Ha, totally.

 

Following on from that:

Spoiler

 

OK, so Jesse has gone to Jay's Earth (Earth Three), so that it will still have a Flash, given that Jay has stupidly sacrificed himself to save the "idiotic chucklefuck".

 

Great... But what about her *own* fucking Earth?! Poor old Earth Two has been without a Flash since she decided to abandon it to shack up with the "idiotic chucklefuck". And now, instead of returning home she's gone to Earth fucking Three?!

 

 

[Gambit]

Ugh. Hate musical episodes. I blame Buffy for this.