Captain America: Civil War

[Space Renegade Ulala]

It's being widely reported everywhere that Cap 3 is going to co-star Robert Downey Jr in an adaptation of Civil War.

From Comingsoon -

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Marking a major twist to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's "Phase Three," Variety is reporting that Robert Downey Jr. is close to joining the cast of Captain America 3 as Tony Stark and that the film will launch elements of the hit comic book crossover event, "Civil War" in the MCU!

The news comes on the heels of an announcement from Marvel this morning that a new "Civil War" comic book is on the way next summer.

Just last week, Downey hinted that something big was on the way, although it was briefly believed that he was referring to a fourth Iron Man film. Now, it seems quite likely that Marvel Studios has even bigger plans for Iron Man!

Anthony and Joe Russo, the sibling director pair behind Captain America: The Winter Soldier, are directing the May 6, 2016 film, which features a screenplay by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely and, of course, the return of Chris Evans as the star-spangled superhero.

 

For those unaware of it, Civil War was a huge Marvel crossover in the mid00s where, following some latest bout of superdude fueled destruction which resulted in yet another town getting wrecked and people getting killed, Tony Stark decides that all vigilantes/super-powered people need to register their identities with the Government. Steve Rogers, unsurprisingly, disagrees and everyone takes up sides with one or the other and much fighting ensues. Spider-Man goes public with his identity, some bad guys use the opportunity to get government jobs, a lot of Really Dumb Shit happens...

..it's pretty terrible, truth be told. Luckily, the film only seems to be very loosely related to it, focusing more on a conflict over the fate of James Buchanan Barnes.

First trailer

 

 

 

[Mr Ben]

How can they do Civil War justice when they cant even mention the word mutant?!?

[McCoy]

I don't know the source material but this synopsis suggests it won't be too difficult to bring a version of the story line to screen.

It saw Cap and Iron Man divided over the Superhero Registration Act; a legislative bill forcing all vigilantes to register their identities with the US Government and act under its command. Stark is in favour of the bill, but Cap and his followers are not, and the results of their stand-off are significant.

[Tangent]

Yeah I think it can work fine without mutants. They didn't play a big role in the core story, in fact I seem to recall that there was a page or two specifically addressing that mutants tried to stay out of it.

But it will be really odd if only Cap and Iron Man are involved. The whole point of Civil War was that 2 of the most respected heroes led opposing teams. I think the tagline was 'Choose a side'. I'm surprised they didn't keep it in line for Avengers 4.

[SonOfSoAngry]

Hopefully it'll be like Age of Ultron in that they're using the name and not much else because, like Age Of Ultron, Civil War was terrible.

[Tangent]

I think the premise of Civil War was brilliant and it will fit perfectly with the second Cap film.

[Goose]

Split the thread and added a bit more to the first post.

[Goose]

They're also linking The Russo brothers to Avengers 3 & 4.

[Lorfarius]

I think its the smart thing to do with Evans wanting to leave the role.

[Glasgowchivas]

I think its the smart thing to do with *potential spoiler stuff here *

He'll have one more film under his contract after Cap 3. The current thinking is that he'll sit out Avengers 3 and return for either Avengers 4 or the now rumoured super-crossover movie that is in the works (Avengers, Guradians, Dr Strange, Ant-Man etc against Thanos, probably).

[Jimmyzilla]

Might be worth adding spoilers for people who don't know the story...

[Delargey]

The problem with doing Civil War is

many of the character's don't have secret identities in the movies.

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[McCoy]

Just twist it so that it's the

US Government trying to regulate and control vigilantes rather than the emphasis on secret identities.

Given the events of Winter Solder I think it can definitely work.

[K]

Given the civil war story and the need to have superheroes on each side of the conflict, I would have thought this would work better as the plot to an Avengers film, rather than a Captain America film.

[Space Renegade Ulala]

I think anyone who's even casually aware of the whole Civil War storyline can agree that most important thing is that they do the MySpace scene.

Holy shit, that was the funniest/worst bit of comic writing of the 00s by a country mile: "You're embarrassingly out of touch, Captain Rogers, you don't even know what MySpace is, or watch NASCAR do you?"

[Glasgowchivas]

Given the civil war story and the need to have superheroes on each side of the conflict, I would have thought this would work better as the plot to an Avengers film, rather than a Captain America film.

Getting into speculation that maybe a spoiler so trying to be careful here - read only if you don't mind some end of Avengers 2 stuff being revealed.

At the end of Avengers 2 there will be 2 distinct "teams" with Cap leading one of them and presumably Tony at the head of the other. Cap's team will be a large part of Cap 3 so in effect, it's an Avengers 2.5 in all but name.

There's no need to literally adapt the Civil War storyline, in fact they won't. They'll just lift the premise and make it work within the established MCU. Now we know why Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice blinked and moved off the Cap 3 release date.

Some of the film sites are also reporting that Cap 3 may see the introduction of

Spider-Man

into the MCU, which is suddenly all the more plausible given how Marvel seem to be able to do anything they want at the moment.

[Tangent]

At the end of Avengers 2 there will be 2 distinct "teams" with Cap leading one of them and presumably Tony at the head of the other. Cap's team will be a large part of Cap 3 so in effect, it's an Avengers 2.5 in all but name.

Any bets on the teams?

How about:

Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Pietro and Wanda

Iron Man, War Machine, Falcon, Hulk, Vision, Fury & Shield

Thor stays out of it.

Black Widow turns on Cap before the end, which is his downfall.

[Glasgowchivas]

Any bets on the teams?

How about:

Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Pietro and Wanda

Iron Man, War Machine, Falcon, Hulk, Vision, Fury & Shield

Thor stays out of it.

Black Widow turns on Cap before the end, which is his downfall.

Devin Faraci, in a now deleted tweet, had

Cap's team being Black Widow, the Twins, Vision, Falcon.

Thor and Hulk will be sitting it out, for spoilery reaons.

Also seeing speculation now that it'll be The Winter Soilder - and how Cap & Iron Man want to deal with him - that might force the issue between them. A nice touch that also builds on the end of Cap 2.

[Space Renegade Ulala]

Ooof, one of those in particular has gotta hurt for Tone.

[Tofu]

CIVIL WAR!!!!

They seriously need to get Punisher in.

[Nick R]

They seriously need to get Punisher in.

Nah, they've got to put Punisher in the Daredevil TV series, when they get round to doing their take on Brubaker's run on the comic...

Given the civil war story and the need to have superheroes on each side of the conflict, I would have thought this would work better as the plot to an Avengers film, rather than a Captain America film.

The title certainly works as a Cap film though, since it's not far off "American Civil War"!

I started reading Devin Faraci's Badass Digest post about this but then I stopped about a third of the way through it when I realised that - as in several of his previous articles - he was writing lots more about the situation at the end of Age of Ultron than I really want to know.

[Mogster]

Given the civil war story and the need to have superheroes on each side of the conflict, I would have thought this would work better as the plot to an Avengers film, rather than a Captain America film.

I got the impression that this would be the start of a phase-wide arc, presumably culminating in Avengers 3.

[Tofu]

Problem with it being called Civil War, is that there's no scope at all since hardly the big hitters are there. It be more Captain America and the Avengers argue. Plus there's no evidence it be off the Civil War event anyway.

[Glasgowchivas]

Problem with it being called Civil War, is that there's no scope at all since hardly the big hitters are there. It be more Captain America and the Avengers argue. Plus there's no evidence it be off the Civil War event anyway.

It's not going to be called Civil War; it's just nicking the premise to divide the good guys. The rumoured title is Captain America: Fallen Son.

[LaParka]

Yeah I think it can work fine without mutants. They didn't play a big role in the core story, in fact I seem to recall that there was a page or two specifically addressing that mutants tried to stay out of it.

I've just read it and yeah, mutants (specifically X-Men) stay out of it because they are still reeling from their own mutant registration act and they're pretty happy for someone else to be in the shit.

The only one who does kind of but in is Wolverine but you could ignore his part and just carry on.

[Tofu]

So yeah makes sense to be called Fallen Son, still not sure about Bucky though. Everytime I seen him I think of Jesse from BB.

[BitterToad]

Plus if rumours are to be believed with Sony rebooting spider man and doing a deal with Marvel who knows if they've reached an agreement with Fox?

[Pob]

Plus if rumours are to be believed with Sony rebooting spider man

What? Again?

[Vin]

I think its the smart thing to do with Evans wanting to leave the role.

He stated recently, in pretty harsh terms, that he's not ready to give up the shield yet.

Which I'm down with as I dig the fella in the role.

[Lorfarius]

What? Again?

They didn't put the boot in hard enough last time so they need to give it another kicking.