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23 minutes ago, kerraig UK said:

Not really. Unless you mean the orange stone? 

 

The universe is so big and complex that I struggle to follow any actual through story. I've seen the Winter Soldier but it still took me about 15 mins to remember who Bucky was. I didn't know Hawkeye had retired and I don't remember which film ended in Zokovia.

 

Superhero movies aren't really for me, but my daughter loves em. I enjoy the comedy and the spectacle, they're all very entertaining to watch, but i'm not invested in the World as such. I couldn't actually even work out what Scarlett Johansson's powers were. 

 

Paul Bettany is such an underrated actor.

 

You couldn't know about Hawkeye and Zokovia, not having seen Ultron.

 

Although Bucky was such an integral part to the Winter Soldier (the frickin movie is titled after him) that I don't understand why you didn't remember him :lol:

 

I also love me some Paul Bettany. 

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This is going to make me sound like an obsessive fetishist*, but I do tend to notice when they understandably swap out the heels for sensible shoes for the stunt sequences.

 

The only woman who appears to have the genuine superpower of being able to run in heels was Pamela Anderson in the terrible but compelling VIP.

 

*I'm not but I get why you don't believe me.

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32 minutes ago, Captain LeChuck said:

Bingo! Jarvis, Stark's version of Apple's Siri, given life and physical form via space magic ... and a zap of Thor's lightning. Yes, it's as ridiculous as it sounds. 

 

I've seen Age of Ultron* and I didn't even realise that.

 

*only once, on DVD, might have been making a cup of tea when they explained that bit

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I watched this. Didn't feel like a cap film, more Avengers. It felt a bit silly, all these characters all being tied together.

 

The action scenes were good, and I liked the framing of some shots which I guess were comic panels.

 

It feels a bit weird to fancy Aunt May.

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On 13/05/2016 at 10:49 PM, Commander Jameson said:

I went back to Winter Soldier and freeze-framed this.

 

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I enjoyed this a lot. I thought Spider-Man was more entertaining in those few minutes than in all of the last three Spider-Man films put together. Really looking forward to his solo film later on now. (Aunt May too :wub:)

 

I thought Howard Stark was Tony's grandfather, not father. He would've been in his 80s in 1991. John Slattery was born in 1962. Also wasn't there a line in the film about Cap talking about how he knew Tony's grandfather?

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Is this where we bring up Marvels strange age-sliding timeline in their comic books where heroes who've been around since the 1930s have only been working for ten years, and the wars keep getting updated (except for Magneto, who is WW2 forever)?

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Just going purely by the films though. Howard looks to be in his thirties in First Avenger, and Cap was told he'd been asleep for 70 years. There's no way Tony is only one generation from that.

 

also, if Bucky was awake and working for hydra since 1991, wouldn't he look to be 20 years older by the time of Winter Soldier? Or did they just refreeze him again after every mission?

 

I feel like I should stop asking questions now.

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1 hour ago, Wroth said:

I thought Howard Stark was Tony's grandfather, not father. He would've been in his 80s in 1991. John Slattery was born in 1962. Also wasn't there a line in the film about Cap talking about how he knew Tony's grandfather?

No.

 

51 minutes ago, Wroth said:

also, if Bucky was awake and working for hydra since 1991, wouldn't he look to be 20 years older by the time of Winter Soldier? Or did they just refreeze him again after every mission?

No. Yes.

 

10 minutes ago, Wroth said:

So what about the line about Cap knowing Tony's grandfather? Or did I just imagine that?

Yes.

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Watched this last night.  Was good, but not as good as I'd hoped, but I think that was because I'd really set my expectations quite high, and it didn't quite deliver on what I hoped it would.

 

I never really felt like they put Cap in a position where he felt like he had to make a tough choice.  It always felt like he could brush off anything Bucky did as "lol brainwashed! Doesn't count!", and stuff that could have been used to push this, he was never confronted with fully.  Even keeping Tony's parents death at the hands of Bucky from him, it barely seemed to come into the final fight.  Ultimately, I think they could have made more of moments like that to build more on Caps character, especially seeing as it's supposed to be his film, and I think it would have made the film feel more about him than it did.

 

Aside from that, Spider-Man was great, the casting there seems spot on.  Same with Black Panther, who came across as exactly as bad-ass as he needed to.  His scene towards the end was one of the best in the film, despite being one of the quietest.  I loved Ant Man too, when he does his party piece during the big scene, Rudd seemed to be having so much fun with it.  Downey was also excellent.  Hawkeye, however, went from being one of the best things about AoU to being a bit rubbish in this.

 

It did a better job of setting up later films while still feeling like its own film with actual stuff at stake than AoU did, but it wasn't quite as solid as The Winter Soldier was.  I also found the lack of Fury a bit odd - I find it a bit odd that after all the effort he's spent on them, he wouldn't be knocking their heads together and telling them to cut their shit out.  If his absence was explained, I missed it.

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