Suicide Squad - Will Smith, Margot Robbie & Jared Leto

[Monkeyboy]

On 28/09/2016 at 17:41, Hean Dog said:

Just read the Empire review, first one I have read in ages btw, but they seemed to love it? Seemingly comparing Jared Leto and Heath Ledger in a favourable manner. Are they still semi credible? Does this mean I might actually need to see this and potentially even like it? 

 

"But there is more to come surely? Judging by what Ayer's pulled off here, you can bet there will be" 

 

From that review...

 

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...you can’t help but inhale the sweaty waft of 11th-hour scrambling in what proves to be a scrappy final edit. False starts, oddly placed flashbacks, clunky cameos (Ben Affleck’s Batman, Ezra Miller’s Flash) and a muddled chronology detract from the grungy, kooky DayGlo-splashed fun, and it takes a good 45 minutes (plus the mystifyingly late introduction of what turns out to be one complete non-event of a character) for the set-up to stop flapping and the action proper to kick in. Also, in striving to find a threat deadly enough to warrant asking bad guys to save the world, the film’s answer is less than satisfying. We get little more than just another posturing villain with vague plans for world domination via a big, swirling mass of CGI.

 

Some pretty big criticisms there, and then he gives it four stars. A really odd review.

[Lorfarius]

But the point is did they enjoy it? If it managed 4 stars then to them it must have done something right.

[Plissken]

Empire has never been more than a mouthpiece for movie PR. When it comes to pre-publicity and soft pedalling reviews in exchange for junkets and freebies, they practically wrote the template. You would get more honest reviews from Official XBox/PlayStation Magazine.

[Monkeyboy]

I think you're being a bit unfair. They're nowhere near as bad those two magazines. They do dish out bad reviews to stuff that's previously had a lot of coverage in their pages. Their one star for Taken still makes me laugh though.

[Mentazm]

Watched this earlier. Although it tested my patience at times, I had fun with it. It actually kept me interested in what was going on due it being a bit different to other recent DC films where I've totally zoned out and been day dreaming.

[Stig]

Finally watched this. What a mess.

 

Such a nonsense reasoning for setting up a squad with literally only 3 "meta humans" in it. The focus of the film was then pretty much only on two who don't even have powers. Incidentally they did end up being the best two things about the movie though.

 

Crap faceless (literally) CGI bad guys

 

Rick "exposition" Flag was terrible. Easily the worst acting in the film.

 

The random music intercut into scenes was jarring.

 

The pointless Joker side plot. I didn't think he was that bad though and given more time with the character I think he'd be good. The film didn't need him at all though, I think it would have been so much better and cooler to have only that last scene with him. I think people would have loved that and it would have created so much buzz.

 

So yeah this makes it 3/3 of DCEU films ive not enjoyed.

 

On a plus note, it's the best I've even seen Jai Courtney at least.

[ryanm]

Oooft. That was a shiter.

I can only imagine how fucking desperate it must have been to work on this project. Shooting mile after mile of footage that you know will never appear on the screen. Fresh edicts come in from corporate - all change please, more gritty grimdark but make it funny like deadpool, I don't care about your problems just make it happen. The writers don't even notice anymore, they excrete some more words and go back to staring listlessly at the wall. The actors are numb: "what's my motivation for this scene?" It doesn't matter, you tell them, we'll fix it in post.
It'll all be fixed in post, you're sure of it.

[Monkeyboy]

Just watched the extended edition (I'd not seen the cinema version) and though it adds maybe an extra ten minutes it doesn't do a lot for the story. The whole concept, whilst sounding cool, just makes no sense. It really hits home when you've got a huge metal monster bad guy thing near the end, and a crazy chick in hotpants is taking a swing at it with a baseball bat. Before assembling the team, you'd cross her straight off the list, as you would with Boomerang Man.

 

There's also no story. Just some loose character arcs strung together with special FX. Honestly, I think Hollywood is a bit too obsessed with back story these days, to the point where they lose sight of the fact that they're supposed to be creating a new story.

[BlinkyBear]

Well, as bad as it was, it could've been a whole lot worse; look at the state of this concept art and consider how fucking abominable it would have been to have a Joker that looked like a cross between a random NPC from Saints Row and right-wing narcissist scumbag Milo Yiannopoulos:

 

 

[BruceBruce]

You mean.... that's not Saints Row?

[BruceBruce]

On 10/15/2016 at 16:46, Stigweard said:

Crap faceless (literally) CGI bad guys

 

Well that's how they maintain a PG-13 rating.. spilling a bunch of human blood would make it rated R.  It's why most big superhero type movies have CGI henchmen that all look alike, or obscure their face in some way.  It's stupid, but that's pretty much the only reason for it.

 

Deadpool was rated R and didn't care about the mindless slaughtering of human beings.

[Guest]

What the fuck.

 

Capone's comics are better and make more sense.

 

Absolute shambles. Characters without character, no defined story except the person they hired to help went rogue and made a bad man who got killed by a bomb. Fuck off. Terrible.

 

They had that much money behind them and again DC / Warner make absolute trash. This makes Batman vs Superman seem like high art.

[Mr. Gerbik]

As always they spend all that money on everything but a decent writer.

[stefcha]

Watched this over the weekend, and I found it to be utter shit due to the tedious nonsensical characters and worse plot. I had to do it in two parts because I was drunk and tired and bored but when I came back for part 2 I had to rewind miles to work out why something was happening because it didn't make sense and I must have missed something but it turns out I didn't that's just how it was. A complete waste of everyone's time, especially mine. I'd rather have watched Batman vs Superman again, which shows how poor I thought this was.

[Stig]

2 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

As always they spend all that money on everything but a decent writer.

Its like they thought Will Smiths name alone was enough but forgot he hasn't made a good film since 2006. So glad Tom Hardy had to drop out of this and wasn't tarnished with it.

[Captain Novaforce]

I just remembered the bit in this when the security guard "slips" Harley the mobile phone. Utterly inept.

[stefcha]

Can't have been that inept given the way he did it was obviously so fucking smooth that nobody noticed it either then or for the entire film!

[Steve McQueef]

Aye, the amount of dick-heads questioning how she got the phone, when it's quite clear how she got the phone, made me question life itself. 

[Alex W.]

I think they're asking why the characters didn't notice it. Given that it happens in broad daylight in front of all of them, even ones that aren't meant to be in the scene. 

[RubberJohnny]

http://www.avclub.com/article/these-alternate-costumes-jared-letos-joker-were-al-246887

 

 

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It’s a tossup as to which image is the most disheartening here. These customized purple boxing shorts maybe? “HAHA Special.” That’s cute.

The truth is, Leto’s Joker was always going to be an assault to the eyes. But he could have been a different kind of assault to the eyes. For a while, his look was apparently going to be “Marilyn Manson cosplays as Prince, except his clothes don’t fit.”

For any malcontents out there still griping over Suicide Squad, take comfort in the fact that things could have been slightly worse.

 

[Commander Jameson]

 

[Vin]

Watched it earlier and predictably, it was a bag of complete wank. Further reading led me to Empire's review of it. Which then led me to firmly step away from the keyboard. 

[Pistol]

Watched this last night; I liked Waller's "I threw him in a hole, then threw away the hole" line. Shame somebody retrieved all the holes and stitched them together into a "plot".

 

 

I can't say I wasn't entertained, but I was certainly incredulous.

[Andy_Why]

16 hours ago, Vin said:

Watched it earlier and predictably, it was a bag of complete wank. Further reading led me to Empire's review of it. Which then led me to firmly step away from the keyboard. 

 

Oh man. You inspired me to look that up myself and just when I thought I couldn't lose any more respect for Empire...

[Made of Ghosts]

I watched this against my will and actually sorta enjoyed it. It's utter utter nonsense and Jared Leto is terrible, but it's completely mental and that counts for a lot with me.

 

I love that there was a character whose superpower was explained as simply "he can climb anything".

 

And that one of the bad guys looked like a Tomb Raider boss and the other one spent most of the film dancing in front of a vortex thing.

[Deeptone]

I've just managed to rent this for 4p from wuaki. Have I been ripped off?

[Monkeyboy]

Yes.

[Down by Law]

just watched this. I liked the part where the chopper set off enough flares to hide from every missile on planet earth for some reason. I also liked brazilian skull tattoo mans happy 2.4 children family flashbacks despite looking like a guy who robs ATMs for a living.

 

movie was so dumb it made commando look like fucking macbeth

 

 

 

 

[Salsa Party Animal]

For this film should I buy 4K version of original film or extended version on blu ray. Just asking. 

[mdn2]

Neither. Save your money.