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probeater

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Carmen Jorda is an embarrasment to drivers of any gender.

Carmen Jorda is pretty fine though, a teams not going to employ a munter though saying that Danica Patrik seems to get quite a lot of airtime for not winning.

Years back I was flicking through channels hungover on Sunday morning and came across the Ginetta support race for touring cars, there was some female completely owning in it, won the championship iirc, assumed she was going places but sadly looks like she didn't.

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Carmen Jorda is pretty fine though, a teams not going to employ a munter though saying that Danica Patrik seems to get quite a lot of airtime for not winning.

You get laughed at for saying you'd be better than a racing driver but I *am* better than Jorda. Not least because I can usually give the afore-mentioned Holly something of a race and she's been as quick as Alice Powell.

Alice Powell being the person in the post above that was SEVEN FUCKING SECONDS quicker than Jorda.

Years back I was flicking through channels hungover on Sunday morning and came across the Ginetta support race for touring cars, there was some female completely owning in it, won the championship iirc, assumed she was going places but sadly looks like she didn't.

Yeah, Sarah Moore, made the crucial junior series mistake of staying in the series she just won then there was just no money.

Funny you bring up Ginetta Jrs because the most promising woman I know of did a half season there this year before deciding to put the money towards moving up in 2016.

Sophia Floersch.

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LowCostMonkey

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This isn't being reported anywhere else (well, apparently it was reported a few months ago by another website) so... pinch of salt but it sounds legit.

http://thejudge13.com/2015/11/05/exclusive-red-bull-secure-an-engine-for-2016/

Long story short : Rumour has it that Red Bull will use Red Bull Engines in 2016. To be branded as Infiniti. 40 bhp more than this year's model.

They apparently worked with Renault to design the latest (yet to run) engine and have agreed terms to build it themselves for next year.

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Mario Illien, the former Ilmor engine guru, has been working in the new Milton Keynes building 9 for over a year and assisting Renault in solving fundamental design flaws in their F1 power unit. Much of this revolves around the engine block.

The result is that Renault have agreed to manufacture and supply Red Bull Racing for the near future, the co-designed 12 token upgraded ICE, whilst Red Bull will supply their own ERS components for the F1 power unit.

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The Red Bull Racing power unit for 2016 is expected to be branded as Infiniti, should they and Reanult-Nissan agree on this. If not, the engine development costs going forward will be met by Red Bull and another partner will be credited.

TJ13 has been informed that Red Bull Racing are already confident they will start the 2016 season with a revised version of the current Renault 12 token upgraded ICE, with a power unit producing in excess of a 40 BHP advantage.

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It’s not all grandstand seats and five course meals in hospitality you know.

There are the rally boys and girls.

These are the real bedrock of any national motorsport scene, and what I love about this disparate subset are the fans. Sitting on the windswept banking of Silverstone watching a two hour F1 race once a year doesn’t qualify you as a real proper petrol head I’m afraid. That sort of fandom just takes money, the ability to carry a cool box of beer for half a mile to your chosen viewing spot and a willingness to queue for three days to get out of the car park.

No, what sorts the hospitality ponces from the muddy scum fan is a willingness to cling to the edge of a windswept hillside for six hours watching a ramshackle collection of historic cars and yesterdays international high tech machinery slide around a freezing wet muddy forest track which usually after the first half dozen cars, is less a track and more a rutted ditch of mud and gravel. These are my kind of people, the ones out in all weathers, standing around chatting to each other, jovial voices raised in laughter between snarling, spitting Imprezas and Mk2 Escorts

With circuit racing you roll up to the windswept disused airfield in central England then sit watching race after race spin round the circuit for lap after lap. It is all presented nicely for you and there is no real need to move away from the cool box full of beer and sandwiches. It is all too easy. The toilets even have comfy bum bog roll in (well during the morning at least) and the burger van still has some sugar left for your brew

To be a spectator of a national rally, requires skill, daring and a willingness to stand around a damp forest with little to no idea of what, when or if the next car will arrive.

There are no signposts in the forest, other than the odd length of tape to stop the stupid from getting too close to the action. The event website might have a spectator guide for you to download, but that usually just points you towards the expensive car park next to the health and safety approved spectator “entertainment” zone.

The diehard rally fans can be found clambering over lichen covered fences and jumping putrid ditched of mosquito-infested water deep in the forest. Now and again a ragtag assortment of orange jackets “marshals” and mates of a mate of a mate who knows someone whose co driving car 131 will be positioned at a junction or tricky corner and they will point out the the best place to stand and not get killed. You’ll smell them before you see them, little knots of usually bearded men gathered around battered Land Rovers or ancient Subaru, a grimy primer stove cooking bacon sarnies and brewing endless cups of tea. A crackly walkie talkie sputters into life occasionally with updates on when the next car might appear.

You can stop to chat, check what time the next group of cars is due past and from which direction. A marshal with a clipboard and wearing 15 coats will remind you to keep away from the outside of corners and not stand in the way of the gravel spraying from the back of the cars., then everyone smiles and the you moves on to continues to hunt for that perfect view deeper in the wood.

Once you find that perfect view, you wait. There is no race radio to listen too, no diamond vision screen to show replays of practice and the season so far. And don’t expect to purchase a glossy spectator program to keep you informed. The marshal told you when the first car is supposed to be due through, but this is club rallying, time is flexible round these parts, a 3.20pm start time could well mean 4.30pm. Therefore, you stand or sit and while away the time checking your camera settings, cursing the alleged waterproof rating of your trousers/jacket/boots and wonder why you are not at home in front of the TV and warm.

Then the sound of a distant marshal’s whistle breaks the silence, people get to their feet around you and cameras are clicked to ready. You wait, tense and quite, listening for the first car.

A low insistent mechanical noise starts up, a growl and a pop floating on the wind, indistinct through the wet trees.

Then a bang like a firework going off and the sound of an engine angrily demanding the use of a higher gear, grows rapidly nearer. Travelling fast through the tunnel of trees, the noise bouncing back and forth, the turbo chatters and whines, unspent fuel igniting in load flashy pops and bangs, the engine barks as a foot is mashed to a bulkhead.

Suddenly there it is, rushing headlong towards you, lights blazing, flames erupt from the turbo exhaust as the driver lifts off, dabs the brake lifts the rear of the car urging it all to swap ends, then hard on the load peddle the rear digs back in showering the road with mud and gravel powering in on towards your vantage point. You raise your camera ready to capture the ferocity of this fire breathing beast that thunders towards you faster and faster. You catch your breath, squeeze the shutter button, capture the moment, the light and noise explode around you, turn away quick or get a face full of gravel spray, red tail lights flash past, then gone, the engine still protesting deep into the dark forest.

The next car will be hear in a minuets time, do you stay put or move, always looking for that perfect picture, the picture that convey the majesty of a car dancing through a dark wet forest.

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Rally Art by julian bowdidge, on Flickr

This is how a proper petrol heads experiences motorsport.

This weekend sees the annual Tempest rally around the Aldershot military land. It's easy to go and find and definitely worth the effort.

Check out the website for start times and maps of the special stages.

http://tempestrally.com/spectators/

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Sun Tze

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Heh, used to visit the WRC races in Trier, Germany, since that was the closest to home. Seven hour drive, 2 hours finding parking and access to a spot that would be at the intersection of multiple stages. Then waiting for hours until finally hearing those beautiful angry noises bounce towards you thru the hilly landscape. Too tired to walk to the next good spot we usually just fell asleep on the hill we were on after the stage had finished. Then beer and food few hours later, good times.

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Sidewaysbob

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As I say it was the plan and the reason the WEC didn't go there this year. But I can't find anything about it on any of the normal preview sites. So maybe they ran out of money before it could be done.

this is from autosport in august 2014

Interlagos has started an $80 million upgrade programme that includes the building of a new Formula 1 pit complex for the 2015 Brazilian Grand Prix.

After this year's F1 race, the current cramped pit complex will be demolished and then rebuilt to a higher specification.

This will give the teams larger garages and should also increase the paddock space behind them.

The plan for the new pits has been in the works for several years, but the idea of moving the start/finish to the back straight on the run to Turn 4 has been ditched and they will instead be built in the same location.

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wev

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Just playing through the demo race now (as Team White), I'm impressed with how many decisions are available just in this demo, I can communicate engine modes, wether to push, yield or defend, fuel/tyre conservation (and how strict they need to be with it), I'll definetly be keeping an eye on this :)

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The undercut works well at the end of the first stint if you pit early (lap 16/17) and go full power for a few laps, of course you have to conserve fuel a little bit after that, but it's a lot easier to defend a lead than make an overtake. Also didn't realise at first but they have markers on the track for where your car is estimated to come out after a pitstop which is pretty cool. Bit of a shame no other tyre strategy really works other than a two stop, but I thought it was a great little demo so far!

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wev

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Yeah hopefully theres more to it than what is in the demo, theres enough the for now but once its released it could feel rather shallow...

Anyway, we could lose CotA ffs

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12520/10063811/us-gp-future-in-doubt-after-reduction-in-texas-state-funding

I know this ones a little more complicated than "blame Bernie", but he never really seems to do a whole lot to actually aid the circuits, they spend an extortionate amount of money to get onto the calendar and even more so to maintain their place and (I may be wrong) they seem to get very little in return for all of that effort (much like the teams outside of Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari tbh)

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Yeah hopefully theres more to it than what is in the demo, theres enough the for now but once its released it could feel rather shallow...

Anyway, we could lose CotA ffs

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12520/10063811/us-gp-future-in-doubt-after-reduction-in-texas-state-funding

I know this ones a little more complicated than "blame Bernie", but he never really seems to do a whole lot to actually aid the circuits, they spend an extortionate amount of money to get onto the calendar and even more so to maintain their place and (I may be wrong) they seem to get very little in return for all of that effort (much like the teams outside of Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari tbh)

Bernie COULD do something, much as he could have saved the French race or kept Germany on the timetable this year. But he chooses not to.

Yes, I know the whole subsidy thing clouds the picture.

But the drivers like the Circuit of the Americas.

The fans attend in big numbers.

We have an American team starting next year.

Keeping the American race on the calendar makes sense.

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The whole way it works with F1, as I understand it, means circuits pretty much need a financial backer to be able to host it, rather than it being a big cash cow for them like you'd perhaps think. Rather than taking a percentage of ticket sales, Bernie demands they pay a fixed amount each year to host the race (and it wouldn't surprise me if they took some of the ticket sales money on top), which means they have to virtually sell out just to break even on the weekend (and at the sort of high prices we have here. The much cheaper tickets in a lot of the world wouldn't cover it). I believe Silverstone is in fact the only circuit which is actually self-sustaining in terms of hosting the F1, every other one is actually making a loss on the GP and receiving some kind of either government or private benefactor funding to allow the race to take place.

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