Koji Igarashi's Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

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7 hours ago, Calashnikov said:

Not played the big new main game, but the 8-bit styled spin-off from last year had amazing bosses. I heard some of them make a reappearance. They not as good as the 8-bitter’s?

 

There's an 8-bit boss in it, and he's the hardest in the game and actually requires tactics to beat rather than hammer Y.

[dumpster]

Is it worth trying to platinum this? Like, how do you know which shards and demons you're missing? I don't understand how I completed the map 100% and backtracked such a lot and yet have only slain 40% of the demons - doesn't add up!

[BadgerFarmer]

41 minutes ago, dumpster said:

Is it worth trying to platinum this? Like, how do you know which shards and demons you're missing? I don't understand how I completed the map 100% and backtracked such a lot and yet have only slain 40% of the demons - doesn't add up!

There's a whole load of info in the menus about which demons you've found and which ones have dropped shards.

 

Completing those lists is reasonable, but platinum would be too much of a grind. IIRC it involves getting all items, which would be a very tedious process.

[wavey]

Picked this up at the weekend, enjoying it a lot, and last night got to the final boss with ~45% of the map done? I assume the ending I got was the "bad" one.

 

So what would be best to do now - go straight to a guide to find out what I needed to do to get a better ending? Or would it be fruitful to keep on exploring by myself and hope something happens that indicates what I should be aiming for?

[Goemon]

Just now, wavey said:

Picked this up at the weekend, enjoying it a lot, and last night got to the final boss with ~45% of the map done? I assume the ending I got was the "bad" one.

 

So what would be best to do now - go straight to a guide to find out what I needed to do to get a better ending? Or would it be fruitful to keep on exploring by myself and hope something happens that indicates what I should be aiming for?

 

Keep exploring

[dumpster]

Have to say I enjoyed this right to the end. I have to be honest , I always find bosses a bit of a chore and always prefer the exploration , so I quite enjoyed that you can pretty much use the

Welcome Company familiar and slash away to complete most bosses easily.  I did need to consult a guide a few times because items get lost in the long list and I didn't realise that one armour allows you to walk through spikes , for example. I thought equipment affected stats only.  So once I realised it was easy to race back to areas and colour in the map.  I also liked the percentage, how the map is 1000 blocks, so when you get to 95% you know there are 50 blocks to find. 

 

I didn't like the end bit at first because it felt like a bit of a cheat to get from 80% of the map to 95%ish by having one massive room, but for me this is totally game of the year.  Whilst I feel I've ignored or missed out on quests and items and really stuck with the same shards and familiars throughout, I've loved every minute.

 

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5 hours ago, grindmouse said:

got to the final boss, unlocked the 3 optional bosses and they’re nails so kinda stumped now. Not hit 100% but also can’t be bothered to finish the game. 

 

Welcome Company and a big old Great Sword with Optimiser active, then just stand in front of them and keep hitting them. Worked on almost every boss.

[dumpster]

Or just sell stuff if you need the money and buy a shitload of 'Egg on Rice', or similar - these are basically potions but without the limit of 9 in your inventory.  I did all the last bosses by just going into the inventory screen every time I lost some health.

[Quest]

 

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After a long career in the game industry, Koji 'IGA' Igarashi founded his company to begin development on Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, answering fans' long-time demand for a new 2D side-scroller action game. IGA turned to Kickstarter in order to develop the game, raising more than $5.5 million in 2015. As he reflects back on the process behind the game, he joined Yohei Kataoka, who created "Tokyo Jungle", a title set in a dystopian universe that was funded through Sony's former "Game yaro-ze" program that focused on finding new talent in the industry.

 

[Droo]

This seems to be patching on my switch today?  Anyone got a link to the patch notes?

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11 hours ago, Droo said:

This seems to be patching on my switch today?  Anyone got a link to the patch notes?

 

No update for me.

[dumpster]

Really enjoying the grind to get the trophies now, which I didn't think I would. I thought I'd finished the game with the 100% map , but I like the way it makes you farm for shards and items too.  I've been trying to craft the remaining shards, which involves finding out what items you are missing then buying them or heading out into the castle to get them.  I'm using a guide online that tells you which demons drop the item you need because it is too random to get them through luck , but it's quite satisfying to get the bits you need, head to Johannes and craft stuff.  Got 100% demons and shards now, and need to get 100% items to platinum it.

 

What I really like , which I was not aware of when playing through it, is if you upgrade a passive shard to level 9 it becomes a permanent character upgrade. So right now I have a gold augmenter and luck augmenter and strength augmenter and fire resistance all at the same time, and I can select an additional passive in the usual way too.  Also, having the accelerator shard lets you run really fast to get to where you want to be.  It's almost an entirely different character to when the game began.

[dumpster]

Just got one trophy to go and I really don't understand it.  I bought everything in the shop, took out all the books, crafted as much as I can and yet it says I only have collected 55% of the items.  Is there an easy way to fill the gaps in the list, because the list doesn't have numbers or tell you any clues in where to find the items. Can't believe you just have to play for hours in the hope you find everything because the trophy rarity is much the same as the others I already did.  Anyone know? 

[Not Thread Owner]

It’s all in the journal.

[dumpster]

Completed all the recipes for Susie, and all the items given to that other lady and still only on 80% items.  Getting to the point where I'm crafting items in order to use them to make other items and it is starting to feel like too much of a grind to continue.  But it's the last trophy before platinum so I will give it one more go this evening.  I am definitely missing something because I'm seeing people on Youtube with over 100 luck (I can get it to 75), and the list of items just shows ??????? for the ones I haven't picked up , so there's no clues within the game as to what's missing or where to look for it.  

[dumpster]

On 13/08/2019 at 10:54, grindmouse said:

I’ve got Iga, secret boss and the final boss to beat, but I too have fallen down a farming and crafting rabbit hole. Currently clocking 18 hours.

 

I’ve barely scratched the surface with food and habe no idea how you can get through the game without encountering approx 80% of food items. What gives?

 

You craft food with Johannes, making it into other food.  You might find beef when you kill a cow enemy in the hall of whatever, and some curry sauce when you kill an angel is the tombs of wherever.  These items are ticked off the list when you find them.  But then Johannes can craft those items into a beef curry and then you have another item ticked off.  I spent time yesterday cooking all the recipes for Susie and crafting all the items for the other person who's name I forgot.  It's doable, but I can't see how you'd actually manage it without looking at the guides online, because there are items that are only dropped by one specific enemy in the game.  

 

A good example is the Exquisite Steak recipe that is the final meal for Susie.  I was getting nowhere so I googled it.  Turns out, you need TWO "Flying Beef" which is something only dropped by Haaggenti, a winged cow found in the Oriental Sorcery area.  Theres a room that has one right next to the doorway so you get into that room, kill the cow, collect the flying beef if it dropped, then leave the room and go back in and repeat until you get it.  Trouble is, it's a 1% chance of dropping so you're basically going into the room an average of 200 times to get both, and this seems completely unfair. I got them but it took me about 10 minutes of going in and out of the room wearing all the items to increase luck as much as possible, but I just don't see how you'd ever know (without googling) that this particular enemy drops the particular item you need when it only happens 1% of the time.  

 

You can also craft weapons, and you'll see later weapons available to craft that require you to have weapons you crafted earlier.  So you might find that you can make a dark sword by crafting wood, metal, silver etc.  Then later you can craft a big sword by using the dark sword as an ingredient. 

 

So far my experience of trying to platinum this is that getting all the endings is fun, getting 100% map is fun, getting 100% demons and shards is fun, completing all the quests becomes a bit of a grind, and trying to 100% the items looks like it could take forever.  I really feel like I am missing something fundamental because the rarity of the trophies shows that similar numbers of players have 100% on the shards, items etc - the items trophy is much the same percentage as all the others, but it seems a nightmare to actually do it.  When you look at the personal data in the archive you can see which demons you are missing, and also see which demons you have got but didn't get the matching shard, so you just go back and hoover them all up.  But with the items, it only lists what the item is and what demons drop it AFTER you have found one, so without looking online at guides I can't see what the strategy would be other than to wander around the castle killing everything in the hope that the specific items you want happen to drop.  

 

So imagine for example, having every item in the game apart from Flying Beef.  You could argue that it's beef so it surely comes from a cow, so therefore you go to the only cow enemy in the game, kill 50 of them in a row but it doesn't drop.  How are you supposed to know you are doing the right thing when the drop rate is so tiny you may well never see it? I need the reassurance of the walkthrough to say, "look, keep hammering this, it will drop eventually.".  Also one guide I saw said to kill the cow over and over until you get a Flying Beef, then go to Johannes and craft any recipe you can with it, then dismantle it.  You can get the beef by dismantling , but crafting the recipe means you can then buy it from shopkeeper, so then you can buy another one, dismantle that and you'll have your two beef for the Exquisite Steak recipe.  Such messing about sounds crazy but the food drop is so rare that it's better to do this than wait and try to farm two by killing the cows.

 

Luckily there are often enemies that drop the vital items right next to teleportation rooms.  If you go to the underwater forbidden area, right next to the warp room there's an underwater horse (Glashsomething).  Killing it will make it drop a weapon about 5% of the time (Ayamar?) which contains gold if you dismantle it.  This is a much easier way to get gold than discovering it in chests.

 

Also Susie doesn't actually tell you what food she wants so you have to work it out from a vague description.  Again, you could spend the rest of your life crafting every recipe and handing them all over until you happen to hit the right one.  

 

So I don't think there's any problem with Googling this one (maybe do 100% map and maybe demons first) but when you have had the good ending and reached 100%, I really don't see how you could platinum this without a walkthrough telling you what items you need and where to find them. Unless I am missing something.....

[Not Thread Owner]

Susie does show a picture of the food though.

 

Also, Iga said that he wanted finding everything out to be a collaborative experience so he planned for people to come together and tell others how to find things.

[BadgerFarmer]

On 31/07/2019 at 12:35, BadgerFarmer said:

Completing those lists is reasonable, but platinum would be too much of a grind. IIRC it involves getting all items, which would be a very tedious process.

 

[Monkeyspill]

I thought I was doing alright until I got to 

the water bits

.

[dumpster]

17 hours ago, BadgerFarmer said:

 

 I agree but the thing that makes it confusing for me is that the rarity value of all of the trophies are much the same as each other so it looks like all the players that 100 percen the Demons and the shards also went on to hundred percent the items even though the items list looks like a way more difficult thing to accomplish.  That makes me think that there must be a simpler gameplay mechanics that I've misunderstood,  and I have missed an easy method to collect all the items .

[BadgerFarmer]

I can't see how you can avoid a lot of grinding for materials and ingredients. I guess most of the people who got as far as 100% on the other things were committed to going all the way.

 

Personally, I did the map and the monster list, but gave up a few short of the shard list (I think because of the thing on the train and the 8-bit boss) and nowhere near on the items.

[dumpster]

2 hours ago, BadgerFarmer said:

I can't see how you can avoid a lot of grinding for materials and ingredients. I guess most of the people who got as far as 100% on the other things were committed to going all the way.

 

Personally, I did the map and the monster list, but gave up a few short of the shard list (I think because of the thing on the train and the 8-bit boss) and nowhere near on the items.

 

That train guy.... all you have to do is....

 

 

"INVERT!"
 

 

..and he can't hit you.

 

 

The 8 Bit boss was a bit of a pain, did it after 3 tries on the same continue by using the Directional Shield to avoid fire, and if I didn't get the shard, I simply....

 

 

 

go straight back into the 8 bit world, invert and accellerate dash right through the level. There's 1 bit where you need to jump, but it's a 10 second dash instead of a few minutes of battling to get back to the boss.
 

 

 

[BadgerFarmer]

Killing them was fine. It was the time it was taking for each attempt that was the issue. Although I hadn't thought of just dashing through to the second one like that.

[Calashnikov]

This is 20% off on the Switch eShop just now. Have they managed to patch out some of the issues people were experiencing before?

[mogawoods]

The only thing they've patched so far is some bugs and some difficulty tinkering. No performance improvements yet. They're working on it.

[dumpster]

15 hours ago, grindmouse said:

...aaaaand platinum’d.

 

This was an absolute joy of a game. Even though the last 10 hours was essentially completing a massive shopping list using  super OP abilities... the bosses seemed like such a long time ago and the final one fell within seconds as I was dishing out 500HP damage with a sword swipe.

 

I think this is better than SOTN. I still have a soft spot for DoS though. 

 

Edit: Not platinum’d. There is a missable trophy. Sonofa... 

Any tips for collecting all the items?  Seems there has to be an easier way.

[dumpster]

6 hours ago, grindmouse said:

Playing new game + to reach the last trophy. 

 

I wish there was a way to sequence break to access the Oriental Sorcery lab but can’t find anything online.

I have only played the game one time, and have all the trophies apart from all items and the platinum.  What trophy are you after?

[dumpster]

I have 100% all the items apart from weapons, and it seems a more tedious grind to get them than the others.

 

I go to the bit in the waterway where you can grind for money (use the glasses that stop magic depleting and all the candles drop money), and then buy a shedload of Alkahest.  That way you can craft the items you need, then once they are added to your list, disassemble them for the pieces you need for the next item.  It's been a timesaver, but the missing weapons (and I'm missing 25% of them) look like they will need me to grind for items out in the map, so I can craft items with them that I then use to make the weapons.  It all seems needlessly convoluted.  Might as well continue as I've come this far, but I can't help thinking that this one trophy is a piss take. 

[dumpster]

I reckon if you set out to platinum this game, the best thing to do is ignore all the trophies and play the game as normal, keeping an eye on the items list.  I wasted a lot of time grinding levels, locating individual shards etc, and earning the trophies one at a time.  In the course of getting the final trophy (items) I have a character which has levelled up to such a degree that I would have earned all the other trophies multiple times over.  

 

In other words, don't worry about getting 500,000 gold, your level up to 50, all the shards and all the demons.  In crafting all the items and weapons, you'll get all the other trophies anyway.  i spent an hour or so killing the same high value boss over and over to get my character to level 50.  I currently am on level 70 and still have all the weapons to find, so spending time to get that trophy was a waste.

 

Something wonderful about this game, because why do I even give a shit?  There's something that drives me to 100% this game because it's *that good!* 

[Monkeyspill]

I’m enjoying Bloodstained but the one thing that really bugs me is the really really long wait to reload after I die (on a PS4 pro). It would be faster to quit out of the app and reload. Is this a bug or something particular to my install/setup. I’m considering uninstalling and reinstalling to see if it fixes it.

 

I suppose the answer is get good and don’t die - but I’m crap and die quite a lot.