Top 100 games of all time (Rllmuk 2015 edition) - Results now showing: No. 1

[Benny]

And now one final post using my collected stats. People moan a lot of course about the placing and ranking of all the games on the list, but this has of course been a democratic exercise based on votes from everyone who participated. If you didn't vote, well... .

However, in the interests of being a total commie, I figure the best list that can actually represent the most people on the forum, and the number of people that have been fans of different games, is actually to have the top 100 list that just takes into account the number of times each game was voted for, rather than any of the subjective scoring for how high people rated them in comparison to other games on other people's lists.

So, with that in mind, see what you think of this fully democratic, hive mind sanctioned, director's cut top 112 games based on pure vote counts:

Director's Cut List:

1. Resident Evil 4
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Super Mario 64
4. Super Mario World
5. The Last of Us
6. Halo
7. Goldeneye 007
8. Portal
9. Shadow of the Colossus
10. Metroid Prime
11. Final Fantasy VII
12. Fallout 3
13. Metal Gear Solid
14. Advance Wars
15. Tetris
16. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
17. Dark Souls
18. Super Mario Galaxy
19. Half Life 2
20. Rez
21. Street Fighter 2
22. Red Dead Redemption
23. Shenmue
24. Rock Band 3
25. Ico
26. GTA V
27. Uncharted 2
28. Super Mario Kart
29. Batman Arkham Asylum
30. GTA: Vice City
31. Deus Ex
32. Super Metroid
33. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
34. F-Zero X
35. Super Monkey Ball
36. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
37. Super Mario Galaxy 2
38. Shenmue II
39. Demon's Souls
40. Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
41. Sonic 2
42. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
43. Persona 4 Golden
44. Resident Evil 2
45. Mario Kart 8
46. Skyrim
47. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2
48. Speedball 2
49. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
50. Streets of Rage 2
51. WipEout HD
52. Day of the Tentacle
53. Pokemon Red/Blue
54. Project Gotham Racing 2
55. Chrono Trigger
56. Journey
57. Wave Race 64
58. World of Warcraft
59. NiGHTS Into Dreams
60. Super Mario 3D World
61. Silent Hill 2
62. Gran Turismo
63. Minecraft
64. Phantasy Star Online
65. Soul Calibur
66. Killer7
67. UFO: Enemy Unknown
68. Spelunky HD
69. Street Fighter IV
70. Grand Theft Auto 3
71. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
72. Perfect Dark
73. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
74. Animal Crossing New Leaf
75. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
76. Halo 3
77. DOOM
78. Final Fantasy IX
79. Metal Gear Solid 2
80. Portal 2
81. Final Fantasy 6
82. Mass Effect 2
83. Yoshi's Island
84. Bioshock
85. Hotline Miami
86. Civilization 4
87. Xenoblade Chronicles
88. Sensible World of Soccer
89. REmake
90. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
91. Valkryia Chronicles
92. Castlevania Symphony of the Night
93. Gears of War
94. Mario Kart 64
95. Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward
96. Vagrant Story
97. OutRun 2
98. Okami
99. Metroid Fusion
100. Championship Manager 97/98
101. Sega Rally Championship
102. Vanquish
103. Ikaruga
104. Pikmin 3
105. Disgaea
106. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
107. Super Mario Bros 3
108. Dead Space
109. Secret Of Monkey Island
110. Counterstrike
111. Outrun 2006
112. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem

All of these got at least 4 votes each. See if you can spot the differences.

[Benny]

And finally, if anyone wants to see the finished roughly formatted spreadsheet, you can view it here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qaf14_G7vzfziY6B56mIqoQGL5TwoxpnRA57tcpxZWk/edit?usp=sharing

Now go vote in Treble's thread

http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?/topic/288459-rllmuks-top-100-tv-shows-please-vote/

[Treble]

You do make an awesome pimp.

[cerseis eyebrows]

I'm itching to play through Resi 4 again. I have it on PS2. Is the GameCube version better?

For the people who voted WWF No Mercy, I take it you don't care about season mode or create a player? Because the erase-everyfuckingthing bug killed that game for me. Wrestlemania 2000 is my wrestling game of choice.

Great work on the list Benny and all the voters. Not only does it piss on the edge list but reading through it has reignited my interest in gaming. I'd hardly touched a console in over three years (aside from a bit of multiplayer). Now thanks to this labour of love I have my PS3, 360 and Wii all under the tv with a bunch of classic games on the go. ????

Ill post up a list of my favourite games in a bit. It'll probably only reach up to 12 or something pathetic.

(Rllmuk needs to do a top 100 albums list next. Yeah.)

[Mr Cochese]

The Wii version is probably the best all round, as it has all the extras of the PS2 version, but with the intact real-time rendered cutscenes of the original. You can still play with a purple controller too (or the chainsaw controller if you can find one).

[Loik V credern]

I do have the Wii version of RE4 though, got it from my brother in law. I intend to give it a go at some point.

. I bought the wii version as an incentive for my brother to play it, about 2-3 years ago, not because I'm generous towards him but because I want everyone to play it. He still hasn't played it. I got my dad to, but only on easy, which cuts some great bits out, and even that bothered me.

[Yobo Ahoy]

For the people who voted WWF No Mercy, I take it you don't care about season mode or create a player? Because the erase-everyfuckingthing bug killed that game for me. Wrestlemania 2000 is my wrestling game of choice.

They did release a 'version 2' (it had an extra '1' at the end of the code on the label) which fixed the bug. Dunno how many were issued.

For me it was amazing even with deletion/corruption risk present. Thankfully I managed to find a copy of v2 a couple of years later, one of my prized gaming possessions!

[cerseis eyebrows]

The Wii version is probably the best all round, as it has all the extras of the PS2 version, but with the intact real-time rendered cutscenes of the original. You can still play with a purple controller too (or the chainsaw controller if you can find one).

Holy shit, never knew that! The Wii controller is what was putting me off to be honest. Consider it bought.

They did release a 'version 2' (it had an extra '001' at the end of the code on the label) which fixed the bug. Dunno how many were issued.

For me it was amazing even with deletion/corruption risk present. Thankfully I managed to find a copy of v2 a couple of years later, one of my prized gaming possessions!

I suppose an emulated version will work bug free proper?

[Yobo Ahoy]

I suppose an emulated version will work bug free proper?

Should do. Can't remember where I got the ROM from, but the emulated version I played on my phone last year worked great. Apart from the fact that N64 controls REALLY don't work on touchscreens.

[RubberJohnny]

Goldeneye still in Top 10, fucking hell

[mushashi]

Holy shit, never knew that! The Wii controller is what was putting me off to be honest. Consider it bought.

Or buy the recent PC HD re-release. Maybe missing one or two graphical things from the original GC release, but does have all the extra content from the PS2 version and is playable on a modern display without looking like crap and runs at 60fps too and is the only version capable of that.

[Mr Cochese]

CRT all the way.

[Davros sock drawer]

I've completed RE4 9 times I think, across GC, Wii, and PS3. The Wii version is my favourite.

It's 100% deserving of any and all Best Game Ever awards. Because it is the Best Game Ever.

Here are a mere 16 reasons why:

http://www.pcgamer.com/resident-evil-4-reload-animations/

Can't believe it's 10 years old. The original thread was the biggest forum love-in ever.

[Oh Danny Boy]

(Rllmuk needs to do a top 100 albums list next. Yeah.)

No that would be the worst thing ever. It will consist of dad rock, brit pop and abba.

[Mr Cochese]

I would vote for Flo Rida.

[MK-1601]

Holy shit, never knew that! The Wii controller is what was putting me off to be honest. Consider it bought.

I'd suggest giving the Wii Remote controls a go first. Doing the shooting galleries with a pad isn't a challenge, it's just a pain in the arse.

[Dig Dug]

I really liked the wii controls on RE4, I felt like the game was much better for it because aiming became a lot easier. Using the sniper is horrible because you have to use the nunchuck but besides that its pretty damn good.

[Colonel Panic]

With this and Edge's 100 'greatest' games, it's pretty fucking clear that the world needs a better quality of top 100. A top 100 put together by a true bastion of good taste, an arbiter with the finest credentials.

Well, I've already got 74 potentials lined up from whittling down my top 20 for this list's votes, I guess I'd just better use that as a basis for putting together a list of all potential candidates for the top 100, narrowing them down accordingly and publishing an authoritative* and objective** list of the 100 greatest games, with appropriate commentary.

Not right away, mind; I've actual work and coding to be getting on with at the moment. But in 2016, in the quiet period following my pledge to buy no more than four games all year, you'll all see what a true top 100 looks like. Oh yes.

*I'll be pretty commanding and self-confident in my espousing of how great those 100 games are

**my objective is to make a list

Your persona is worse than NEG's. Plus, Excel and VBA is not coding!

[Wiper]

Well no, nor was that what I was on about - that's my job, after all, and I wasn't planning on producing a list and commentary while at work (which is actually mostly working with a mixture of Oracle databases, largely through Business Objects and Crystal Reporting, with plus a bit of Mapinfo (and Excel, of course) with SQL and VBA supporting that).

I mean, you'll almost certainly not consider what I'm actually talking about to be programming either, seeing as it's only in GML, but this is what I meant by 'coding'. Still, I'm currently rebuilding the dialogue parsing script I lost to my hard drive a year ago, to enable me to feed in text files and have them translate into branching dialogue trees (branching based both on conversation choices made by the player and tests against character skill levels), and whatever you think of it, I consider it to be programming. It certainly gives me enough of a headache to qualify.

[Colonel Panic]

That post must be programming. It gave me a headache!

[Wiper]

I probably forgot to pass my arguments to a variable again, that always causes problems in interpretation.

[Nick R]

Wiper the programmer:

if (post == "Zelda" || post == "Half-Life")  {    printf("RANT");  }elseif (post == "Deus Ex")  {    printf(":wub:");  }

[Wiper]

[emjay2kay]

For the people who voted WWF No Mercy, I take it you don't care about season mode or create a player? Because the erase-everyfuckingthing bug killed that game for me. Wrestlemania 2000 is my wrestling game of choice.

I thought that was withdrawn like the week it came out? I know I took mine back without a problem. Few months later the second version came out with the bug fixed. Only effect it had was that blood was no longer in the game. I didn't realise there were that many of the buggy cartridges knocking about - it really did make the game a lot shitter to play without career, create-a-wrestler or the shop. Definitely try and track a copy down if you can as I do think it's a better game than Wrestlemania 2000 (though that is still very, very good).

Anyway, amazing props to Benny. Tremendous amount of effort throughout and whatever anyone thinks of the list and where stuff ended up, I can't imagine I'd cry too much if they were the only 100 games I was left with on a desert island.

[cerseis eyebrows]

Shifting Sand Land is an absolute cunt and the worst Mario thing I've had the displeasure to play. Otherwise Mario 64 has been a joy to play through again.

I've always kinda underappreciated Mario 64. Croc and Crash Bandicoot were the first 3d platformers I played through as a kid so some of Mario's (which I played fairly late) wow factor was tarnished. Plus I made the mistake of playing from a strategy guide. This time I'm drinking in its world as it unravels, intuitively stumbling into its secrets and ideas and, well, I'm feeling it, man. I'm not completely sure what people mean they talk of that 'nintendo magic'. But you get the sense that this game is overjoyed just to be here.

There's fun and playfulness in every touch and crevice; Mario's swell new jumps and attacks (you never need the sidestepping cartwheel thing. But how fucking cool is it? ), the play and ideas with 3D physics, the gentle humour of the enemies and early bosses, the way that orchestra comes in as you dive under in Jolly Roger Bay . . . Yet, like all the best Mario games, it never feels saccharine or too sickly sweet.

Has it dated? Well yeah, it's blocky and things pop up all over the place. But cosmetics are never a deal breaker with great games. In terms of gameplay it's the camera controls that remain the biggest obstacle to a modern player. It may appear to be an unnecessary headache at first but I'm kinda of cool with the manual camera elbow grease you put in. Lining up a position and trying to find the perfect angle for a jump becomes a tactic and platforming device in itself. It adds another (. . eh) dimension to the game. The only time it really fucked me off was during a pole jumping sequence in the volcano of the Lava world. It's forgivable most of the time.

The swimming remains the best swimming in a 3D game. The castle - with its secrets and mysteries just outta reach - is still the best hub in gaming. Twenty years later you still get that pang of pleasure and satisfaction every time you grab a new star.

Mario Galaxy is a totally gorgeous technicolor rush of a thrill ride but I think I prefer the organic pacing and the deep wonder of 64. I'm gonna replay Galaxy too because I'm not sure where I stand.

It's better than Croc.

[Benny]

If Mario 64 is The Godfather, then Mario Galaxy is The Godfather Part II.

Croc is probably The Godfather Part III.

[Stanley]

Mario Sunshine is part III.

[Wiper]

Remind me again which Mario game involves Toad waking up to find a Yoshi's head in his bed?

[Mr Cochese]

That must have happened in one of the Paper Marios.

[Stanley]

Yeah they speak Italian and everything in those. They don't fuck about.