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Top 100 games of all time (Rllmuk 2015 edition) - Results now showing: No. 1


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Not even slightly; the voting was months ago, the Shenmue 3 announcement a few weeks. A shame, as I'd have liked to see it storm into the 20s on a wave of awakened nostalgia ;)

All I can say is that the sequel alone got a LOT of votes.

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I love the ps1 graphics as an aesthetic in itself, I've never played Syphon Filter and watched a video of it the other day on a phone and thought it looked great, you don't get that kind of bold clarity and angular polygon graphics nowadays. I think people will come to appreciate -in an abstract way- the early 3d games that went for realism in some form because they're so different to what we get now. There is a purity to them. I'm not shocked that they aren't photo realistic as I think I remember.

Agree on this. I liked Counterspy recently for this reason, everything's very angular, minimalist and linear.

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Mario 64 hasn't aged has it? It was and is magical.

Few will agree as well, but I don't think Goldeneye has either, i think if a game was so playable then then now it remains so, and give me 3 willing people, the basement, grenade launchers and I could play it for 20 hours straight. People's expectations change, the way they play games has, and I don't think the games that reached for realism now fail because all we see are fuzzy grey shapes that make up the surroundings. I love the ps1 graphics as an aesthetic in itself, I've never played Syphon Filter and watched a video of it the other day on a phone and thought it looked great, you don't get that kind of bold clarity and angular polygon graphics nowadays. I think people will come to appreciate -in an abstract way- the early 3d games that went for realism in some form because they're so different to what we get now. There is a purity to them. I'm not shocked that they aren't photo realistic as I think I remember.

Regardless, what was once amazingly playable then is not now obsolete because of modern ideas. I could never play Tomb Raider because of the controls and I doubt I could now. The controls weren't the point though. I could play the remake they made a few years ago to finally get through it, but..it'd be like experiencing the mechanics without the essence, the soul, i feel like with the most groundbreaking stuff you can sense the excitement the creators had when making something so unprecedented and new.

When I played Goldeneye at the time I got used to the slowdown when there's loads of explosions, but as a whole it never dragged like Perfect Dark did in most situations. I wish there were other FPSs like Goldeneye coming out, which are largely linear, more about fast movement and clean shots, through corridors, with enemies always placed in the same position, so it's pure trial and error, over the entire course of the level, that you can be flexible enough to make a few mistakes/take a few hits and still carry on, but largely you are trying to perfect a run, and you get into that zone where what was once a tricky bit becomes easier and quicker because another part has replaced it for most trickiest moment and there's that feeling over constant refinement and improvement that is so satisfying that you can't achieve without failure and repetition. It's not archaic and dated to me.

...with objectives that become more complex on later difficulty settings. Silo on 00 Agent for instance for a speed run, the empowerment you feel legging it through that, knowing where every guard is placed, taking them out with your silenced pistol before they even know you're there, trying to judge how many shots you can take as you just run for the final stretch and squeeze past all the bodies. Only, really, Timesplitters got the speed run thing, the ditching all attempts to shoot enemies except for the ones that are in your way.

You make a great case for Goldeneye, and actually after I posted that I had a rare opportunity to play it again 4 player and it was a lot of fun. But I do think there's a nostalgia effect on voting and many recent games supersede the originals (Mario Galaxy and 3D World are clearly better than 64).

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Day of the Tentacle and Speedball 2 :wub:

Delighted to see both of them brushing against the top 50, well deserved. And I agree with everything you say about DOTT, it's simply the finest adventure game I've ever played.

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I should perhaps give Day of the Tentacle another go, but I got really disillusioned with it because I solved a couple of the puzzles by accident. My memory's terrible, but I think there's one where you freeze a hamster that I did without ever knowing why I'd want a frozen hamster (seemed like a daft thing to do at the time so I gave it a pop), and another I solved through time travel, and never knew what the actual puzzle was. I enjoyed the bits I played, but lost faith because I was solving stuff I hadn't even seen yet.

Civilization 4 though - hell yes. Civ is the only game where me and a couple of mates have a term for the state you get into when you're playing it - a "Civ Hole". "I'm in a Civ-hole right now" says you're gone for a few days.

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Hmm, did you consider all Street Fighter IV versions different games?

Nope, as they are closer to updates and expansions than full sequels (see original thread for the reasoning on this). For simplicity, the entry just means any version :)

Actually the Ultra iteration had the most votes, so I might put that on the entry name anyway.

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It certainly feels like racing games went through something of a golden age during the N64 and Gamecube generations. There really hasn't been anything half as compelling since, probably down to online multiplayer now being so heavily prioritised in everything.

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I'm pleased to see P4G placing so high (well, for a "best of all-time" list :D ) - P3 already blew apart my preconceptions about JRPGs, P4 cut out some of the flab and downtime of the previous game, and Golden was essentially the definitive version of P4. :) Great work with the write-ups as ever.

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It's back! And with the first grouping of 5 games where not one of them am I happy to see in the top 100. Though Red Dead is alright, at least.

Thanks for the write up as ever, though - I look forward to seeing the other high-placing games!

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I've never understood the appeal of Red Dead - the controls are clunky, the gunplay and action scenes offer few surprises and the combat has that odd thickness to it that GTA IV had, the story wasn't particularly dramatic outside of one admittedly well done part near the end....I thought it was an absolute slog, and I love westerns.

It had some beautiful scenery and a great day/night cycle, but that's all I really liked about it. Now Max Payne 3 on the other hand...that was Rockstar firing on all cylinders. Possibly because you didn't have to ride a horse across a barren wasteland while people talk absolute shite for 10 minutes.

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I always loved how empty RDR dared to be. You could ride for ages and only encounter a few animals while taking in the beautiful scenery, it's everything Ubisoft's loud open worlds full of busywork aren't.

Majora's Mask is way too low btw, but nice to see Waverace in the list.

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RDR is overrated. I went back to it recently and lasted about five hours before I got fed up of trying to convince myself it was fun. The main character is a complete wazzock and it's clunky as anything, as Down By Law said.

Surprised that MGS3 is this low. I was reckoning on it being top 20 material for some.

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