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Injustice was still a total mess when I played it around 18 months after release. Terrible optimisation and it did something I have never seen before outside of PS2 emulation - dealt with framerate drops by forcibly rendering every frame anyway and just slowing down the gameplay to match, rather than dropping frames as every other game does. And I think it had that lame kind of vsync that drops fps in gigantic chunks if it drops below 60, so your game would quickly slow right the fuck down if you couldn't keep a solid 60fps. Which you couldn't on even mid-tier hardware as it was terribly optimised. Considering the game runs well on a bloody iPad, this was a poor job indeed.

Same port studio as MKX.

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something I have never seen before outside of PS2 emulation - dealt with framerate drops by forcibly rendering every frame anyway and just slowing down the gameplay to match

Clearly you didn't play a lot of shoot em ups back in the day ;)

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Not that consequential? It's had a digital and even physical removal of sales a few days after release and got a graphics card manufacturer come in to try and sort it out. That doesn't happen everyday. Normally you just moan and wait for a patch. It was the vocal protest against this and likely refund pressure from steam and gmg

Oh, it's embarrassing and the refunds will be costing them a fortune so they had to be seen to take action. And it's refreshing to have that much power. But there aren't going to be many people trying to buy it now that haven't already. It's not the sort of game you wait for reviews of and at £24 inc. season pass it's going to be a very long wait for the Steam sale that makes it cheaper than that.

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Anyone who's not a mental hardcore gamer/Batman fan will just pick it up next time they're in Tesco's or after next pay-day. Tons of people will be buying it later on.

Tesco don't sell a massive range of PC games.

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High Voltage Software - the studio that brought you The Conduit, Gat out of Hell and a port of Zone of the Enders 2 that was so bad Konami hired another studio to fix their mess.

QLOC were also hired by WB after they fired High Voltage for the MKX mess and they are currently in the process of trying to fix it up.

I'm honestly surprised that WB stopped sales on Steam and at retail for this, if you release a game in this state in the first place you clearly don't give a fuck.

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I'm honestly surprised that WB stopped sales on Steam and at retail for this, if you release a game in this state in the first place you clearly don't give a fuck.

I think the important variable to consider is that it's the first time they've released a game in this state while Steam offers refunds: suddenly the backlash is costing them money as well as reputation.

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Only paid £13 or thereabouts for this. Not tried it yet as I'm still in the middle of Witcher 3, but I'm not holding my breath that it'll run ok after all the stories. Doubt cdkeys will offer refunds either sadly.

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Only paid £13 or thereabouts for this. Not tried it yet as I'm still in the middle of Witcher 3, but I'm not holding my breath that it'll run ok after all the stories. Doubt cdkeys will offer refunds either sadly.

Don't worry - they'll fix the main issues and by the time they do, you'll have still got yourself a bargain for £13. It's no wonder WB were selling steam keys to resellers so cheap. PC games are cheap, but AAA releases pre launch for less than £15? No fucking way. They did it on both MkX and Batman AK because they knew the pc ports were fucked. And we fell for it anyway. The prices were so stupid, was worth the gamble at the time, but I gather by the time they fix it, the prices will go back up a little.

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That doesn't explain why Mortal Kombat X was similarly cheap. Also the Premium Editions of Batman were also insanely cheap (£22 for game and season pass from cdkeys at the lowest) which were not bundled with GPU's. Bloody WB knew lol. It was a fire sale before word got out. Steam refunds fucked up their plans.

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A lot of the resellers will be selling the keys that came with graphics cards. It's why The Witcher 3 was available for around £17 at launch too.

Nah, they aren't. The keys that come with graphics cards are redeemed on the nvidia website and you have to link directly to your Steam (for Arkham Knight) or GOG account (for Witcher 3). There is no Steam or GOG key made visible for these - let alone to be passed on. The legitimate resellers that we use for games are using legitimate digital or retail keys (some even give you a scan of the box).

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That doesn't explain why Mortal Kombat X was similarly cheap. Also the Premium Editions of Batman were also insanely cheap (£22 for game and season pass from cdkeys at the lowest) which were not bundled with GPU's. Bloody WB knew lol. It was a fire sale before word got out. Steam refunds fucked up their plans.

It's disgusting isn't it. Of all your customers it's the PC folk who are most discerning when it comes to performance. Why would you knowingly send a product out in this state? It's really bad for business.

I'm holding off buying Batman anyway because I don't agree with all the DLC bullshit but this makes me not want to buy it at all.

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Nah, they aren't. The keys that come with graphics cards are redeemed on the nvidia website and you have to link directly to your Steam (for Arkham Knight) or GOG account (for Witcher 3). There is no Steam or GOG key made visible for these - let alone to be passed on. The legitimate resellers that we use for games are using legitimate digital or retail keys (some even give you a scan of the box).

Ah, they've updated the process then as with the previous deals you registered the key on the nvidia website and were then given a Steam key for your selected game.

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Mike S

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CJS basically told me to do one and contact WB if I've got problems. :lol: Fair enough, I knew the caveats of buying from them.

What is the legal position though?

The retailers have sold a product that, as evidenced by WB recalling/suspending it from sale, is surely now defined as being not fit for purpose. That must be as rock solid a case for the consumer to request a refund as is possible?

I feel an email to watchdog is on the cards...

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