Escape From Tarkov, upcoming survival mmo(ish)

[snowbind]

So scopes are kinda fucked ATM. You move really slow with them. I'd personally ignore them and just whack a red dot or 2x on your mosin. 

 

On selling stuff. Just sell everything and get a build you like to take into raids. Keeping Ak's is a good shout tbh as they behave pretty consistently. Be careful with offline mode as it runs way smoother than PvP, but it's great for learning the maps.

 

Seriously though, learn to scav factory. Avoid firefights and listen for PMC fighting. They usually die or evac within the first 10 mins so you can just scav and pick up the remains. Learn how to get to gate 3 and security gate and you're golden. Just near gate 3 there's a shack/container with only 1 enterance/exit that faces gate 3. It's a great place to camp people trying to leave. It might take 10 runs or so, but you can make it consistently out as a scav, making your PMC runs effectively free with a bit of bank too.

[moosegrinder]

That's kind of reassuring that I'm not 100% a cack handed dickhead.

[ravnaz]

Thanks chaps.

 

On the gunplay front. I'd say this is pretty good. I was playing PUBG for a while and couldn't seem to hit shit. Tarkov is far better. 

 

Having trouble telling the difference between ai and humans atm. Ends up with me having an itchy trigger finger and agro'ing the ai. 

 

 

[moosegrinder]

Had what I'd consider my first successful raid in *checks timer* 35 hours of play. I've managed to get out twice before but this time I had loot AND I managed to kill some Scavs and PMC. I mean the PMC was a poor little hatchling, but it's still a win/murder.

[ravnaz]

What kind of time do you have to exit in for it to not be considered "early"? 

[moosegrinder]

5 minutes ago, ravnaz said:

What kind of time do you have to exit in for it to not be considered "early"? 

 

@snowbind or @Sir Mullo would be better off answering that. With a Scav it doesn't matter, but as a PMC I think it's more what you do in the time rather than the amount of time you take before getting out. But like I say I'm not sure.

[V3zna]

Exiting without a kill is classed as ‘early’.

[Herbalizer]

Im sure its dependent on xp gained. You can loot loads, not kill anyone and it wont be a run through.

 

 

[snowbind]

7 hours ago, moosegrinder said:

 

@snowbind or @Sir Mullo would be better off answering that. With a Scav it doesn't matter, but as a PMC I think it's more what you do in the time rather than the amount of time you take before getting out. But like I say I'm not sure.

 

I actually don't know. The xp shout might be a good thing, as I've definitely done quick runs, with no kills and not go it, but I have looted the shit out of an area.

[moosegrinder]

The quests aren't going anywhere any time soon, and I read that you should do Skier a bit before doing Therapist, which meant the lucky scav junkbox was out of reach for ages and I'm so, SO fucking sick of inventory space lacking so I stumped up the extra 400k for one off the Flea Market as I'd got up to 3m. Totally worth it.

[ravnaz]

Why is the mosin recommended?  And what type?  Seems to be a few....

[moosegrinder]

12 minutes ago, ravnaz said:

Why is the mosin recommended?  And what type?  Seems to be a few....

 

The AK platforms I like personally, but the mosin is supposed to be one of the best budget guns simply because the ammo is cheap and does decent penetration. There's one that you can barter for and one you can buy outright, that's the one without the scope from Prapor ll1 I think.

[snowbind]

The infantry or standard, there's very little in the specs with them. Ak's are great, but the reason I suggest the mosin with a red dot and 7N1 ammo is that it'll headshot almost every helmet in the game for 42(ish)k. It's a great way to get used to hittiing heads and taking fights/shots when it's in your advantage to do so. It forces a style of play, that I think is good for new players. However, if you find something that works for you, do that.

 

Something worth noting, in Tarkov hip firing or point firing is actually really effective. The recoil is managed mostly by the character model, not the mouse so you can be very accurate with it. Especially if you have a laser. 

[moosegrinder]

The 7N1 is Prapor LL3 though. I don't think I've ever found any. I definitely don't have any. The ammo you can buy from Prapor LL1 is the LPS gzh which apparently pierces L4 armour and does flesh damage (according to an idiot proof chart I found last week). I can never get the bloody thing off before whoever kills me as almost everyone gets the drop on me.

[Sir Mullo]

9 hours ago, ravnaz said:

What kind of time do you have to exit in for it to not be considered "early"? 

depends. If Im a scav and i spawn with a very nice piece of loot, I'm gone instantly

 

As Snowblind said though, waiting around for lads to shoot each other, then sneak and when its dies down, that can be end game.

 

Play the cards your dealt 

[Adrock]

I take it you need to be suitably proficient at FPS to play this? I'm absolutely shit at them and could never be bothered to learn recoil patterns in CS:GO for example.

 

Is this game for me? It sounds very intriguing but i reckon I'd end up dead, constantly.

[snowbind]

57 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

The 7N1 is Prapor LL3 though. I don't think I've ever found any. I definitely don't have any. The ammo you can buy from Prapor LL1 is the LPS gzh which apparently pierces L4 armour and does flesh damage (according to an idiot proof chart I found last week). I can never get the bloody thing off before whoever kills me as almost everyone gets the drop on me.

 

Just get it off the flea market. Keep 5 in your gun, 5 on your dude and the rest in you secure case. 

[snowbind]

22 minutes ago, Adrock said:

I take it you need to be suitably proficient at FPS to play this? I'm absolutely shit at them and could never be bothered to learn recoil patterns in CS:GO for example.

 

Is this game for me? It sounds very intriguing but i reckon I'd end up dead, constantly.

 

Yes and no. If you run head first into players then aim will help, but it's not the only way to kill. The maps are built so that you can stalk, out maneuver and use tactics to flank and get the drop on enemies. It goes a lot deeper when you start adding armour, bullet quality and various other stats.

 

You will die though, but that's what makes it great.

[snowbind]

59 minutes ago, Sir Mullo said:

 Snowblind said though, waiting around for lads to shoot each other, then sneak and when its dies down, that can be end game.

 

Play the cards your dealt 

 

So what's grrat about tarkov is there's really no win conditions other than stay alive. Sure there's the quests, but these were added as filler until they have the main campaign/story in. How you play and win is upto you. If you want to go kill players and get dog tags you, if you want to loot and never be seen you can. The world is harsh, punishing and full of threats. So it is upto you to approach it. 

 

Me and my duo buddy like to chase fighting and shots. Then we chose when to engage. Third partying people that are weak or looking elsewhere might not be heroic, but it is fucking effective. 

 

Also you don't need masses of roubles. Spend it on your hideout and stuff off the flea market. Better armour makes it easier to survive, which means you'll extract with more loot, more often. 

[moosegrinder]

7 hours ago, snowbind said:

 

Just get it off the flea market. Keep 5 in your gun, 5 on your dude and the rest in you secure case. 

 

Yeah but if he's not level 5 he doesn't have access to the flea market. It took me about twenty something hours to get to 5 because I kept getting flattened :p

 

after that though yeah, the flea market is your god and saviour.

[moosegrinder]

8 hours ago, Adrock said:

I take it you need to be suitably proficient at FPS to play this? I'm absolutely shit at them and could never be bothered to learn recoil patterns in CS:GO for example.

 

Is this game for me? It sounds very intriguing but i reckon I'd end up dead, constantly.

 

It's difficult to say. Everything this game is and does runs contrary to what I enjoy in games but here I am nearly 40 hours later and I've not even scratched the surface. I'm awful at k&m FPS games but the laws of averages means you'll survive at least some of the time with loot. The learning curve is so steep it's fucking vertical, mind.

[snowbind]

4 hours ago, moosegrinder said:

 

Yeah but if he's not level 5 he doesn't have access to the flea market. It took me about twenty something hours to get to 5 because I kept getting flattened :p

 

after that though yeah, the flea market is your god and saviour.

 

Yeah, that's a really good point. The LPZ ammo is still great tbh. 

 

This is my current stash

 

 

[Herbalizer]

I've definitely hit a wall with the tasks.  I'm only level 16 atm, but the tasks now involve me going into high traffic places such as dorms on Customs and I just get wrecked everytime by geared players. One quest I have is to get 4 pistol kills.  I cant even damage most of the players I see with one!

 

My stash is nowhere near what you guys have, I dont have a single weapons case.  I do have nearly 3 million rubles in the bank though, buts thats largely down to selling the drops I got on Twitch.

 

I definitely enjoy Scav runs more than PMC runs as I'm not filled with the fear of losing everything.  I've heard the next wipe is likely to be in March, I so suppose I should just lose the gear fear and go for it as everything is just going to go with the wipe anyway.

[moosegrinder]

I don't have any gun cases but I've got a med case and money case from a Twitch drop, an ammo case for trading gunpowder and I just swallowed the 1.4m for the Lucky Scav Junk Box from the flea market because the maths of the space inside Vs what it takes up in your stash is worth it.

 

Gear fear is an odd concept and it's difficult to get over despite it being a ridiculous notion.  I think I'm about past it, but I've never had a load out worth more than about 100k. It's just numbers at the end of the day.

 

One thing I don't get in this game is what's the point of insurance? If you have something worth insuring chances are it's going to get robbed anyway. I rarely get anything but magazines and 'shit' guns back. And even then if the scope can be taken off it it will have been.

[Sir Mullo]

16 hours ago, Adrock said:

I take it you need to be suitably proficient at FPS to play this? I'm absolutely shit at them and could never be bothered to learn recoil patterns in CS:GO for example.

 

Is this game for me? It sounds very intriguing but i reckon I'd end up dead, constantly.

 

obviously it helps but not essential. You will die loads of times as do the best players, shots hit you from no where, nothing you can do about it. if you liked DayZ, then you'll love this, if not, then maybe its not for you. Slow and steady wins this game, getting the drop on lads, not run and gun

[Sir Mullo]

2 hours ago, Herbalizer said:

I've definitely hit a wall with the tasks.  I'm only level 16 atm, but the tasks now involve me going into high traffic places such as dorms on Customs and I just get wrecked everytime by geared players. One quest I have is to get 4 pistol kills.  I cant even damage most of the players I see with one!

 

My stash is nowhere near what you guys have, I dont have a single weapons case.  I do have nearly 3 million rubles in the bank though, buts thats largely down to selling the drops I got on Twitch.

 

I definitely enjoy Scav runs more than PMC runs as I'm not filled with the fear of losing everything.  I've heard the next wipe is likely to be in March, I so suppose I should just lose the gear fear and go for it as everything is just going to go with the wipe anyway.

 

Im not too far ahead of you in terms of tasks and money.

 

Leave that pistol quest till later or gear up and go into factory with a better pistol and best ammo

 

Your confidence grows with gear when you get in and out of maps with a bit more ease. My first hurdle was killing cavs on map but once you have good gear, thats easy, the second challenge is killing geared players. You deffo need best ammo and serious armour for this and no the maps and where lads are going to come out. I hunt players now where before i legged it the other way. 

 

Gear fear is real. Sell the gun or get geared up and go in and do a quest. Thats the options

[routeburn]

On 19/01/2020 at 19:59, ravnaz said:

What kind of time do you have to exit in for it to not be considered "early"? 

 

Rather than "early", they should say "premature extraction".

[Herbalizer]

Once more in to the breach I go. Lets hope its kinder than last night. My ID is Vivsjack if anyone wants to add me.

[snowbind]

Next wipe is in 5 months. Along with a new map. The biggest upgrade between now and then will be a complete overhaul of the audio. Thank god.

 

That's from the dev update over on the escape from tarkov Reddit .

[moosegrinder]

Yeah Pestily did a breakdown of the Tarkov TV podcast and it's got some good bits in it. 

 

The audio is simultaneously amazing and fucking awful because when you compare it to something like pubg the sound effects are awesome but they volumes are so disparate that they grate like a motherfucker.