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Armed, deadly Imperial Stormtroopers looking for plans hidden in an R2 unit that could destroy the death star are thwarted in their search by a locked door and simply 'move on to the next one'. 

 

Another Stormtrooper tries to run through a door frame and smacks his head on the top of it.

 

Can you imagine how the internet would react to these 2 scenes if ANH was released today? 

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1 hour ago, Boothjan said:

Armed, deadly Imperial Stormtroopers looking for plans hidden in an R2 unit that could destroy the death star are thwarted in their search by a locked door and simply 'move on to the next one'. 

 

Another Stormtrooper tries to run through a door frame and smacks his head on the top of it.

 

Can you imagine how the internet would react to these 2 scenes if ANH was released today? 

What is ANH?

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3 hours ago, Boothjan said:

Armed, deadly Imperial Stormtroopers looking for plans hidden in an R2 unit that could destroy the death star are thwarted in their search by a locked door and simply 'move on to the next one'. 

 

Another Stormtrooper tries to run through a door frame and smacks his head on the top of it.

 

Can you imagine how the internet would react to these 2 scenes if ANH was released today? 

Theyd be demanding a back story to the clumsy stormtropper. What happened in his life to make his eyesight so bad he couldnt see a massive door.

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3 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Theyd be demanding a back story to the clumsy stormtropper. What happened in his life to make his eyesight so bad he couldnt see a massive door.

 

Didn't we actually get that in AOTC with Jango bumping his head on the Slave 1 door, implying that the stormtrooper clones were genetically clumsy?

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I watched this again and I still can't get over how Kylo

 

killed Snoke,  its stupid I know but there was no way he could have done this. He wasn't a Sith but he was a far more powerful dark force user, and would have to be to gain the title of Supreme leader.

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Why?

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What have we seen him do to suggest he is all that powerful? Aren’t you just taking him at his own word? It’s not like he had a lot of competition. 

 

Why does he need to be so super to gain that title? Look who Supreme Leader of the US is right now.

 

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2 hours ago, Commander Jameson said:

 

Didn't we actually get that in AOTC with Jango bumping his head on the Slave 1 door, implying that the stormtrooper clones were genetically clumsy?

 

Luckily, this most horrible of ideas from the prequels was avoided or ‘retconed’ if you will by The Clone Wars I think. 

Most of the Clones died out due to accelerated aging, replaced by conscripts. 

Im glad they didn’t sought to replace all the Stotmtrooper voices in the OT with the voice of that Australian guy like they did with Boba Fett. 

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Just got back.  It was crazily uneven. I'm amazed my kids sat through it all (especially the six year old) as it was really long.

 

I was reflecting that it must be close to impossible to make a Star Wars movie these days, the audience is too broad and want drastically different things.  Old bastards like us probably want something a bit more serious, kids want something faster and a bit more fun.

 

I don't want to be po(e) faced about it all, but one part of it was close to all time trilogy lows (that casino gaff was a right load of old shite, right down there with the rathtars from TFA).

 

I know that time compression is a thing in these movies, but it didn't really feel like Ray and Luke were given enough time together and I think the film needed that more than it needed Ray and Kylo.

 

The little nods were lovely though; the sunken X-wing and the Jedi kid at the end with the broom were really nicely done.  I think I'll enjoy ALL the sword fighting sequences again.

 

I think it's all over the place and like Empire was "technically better" than Star Wars, I think I should prefer TLJ over TFA.  But I don't. I prefer TFA.

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i watched this yesterday. and im so conflicted. there were plenty of issues from, stupid shit, to tone, to plot and consistency, but on the other hand it was everything star wars should be, and i enjoyed it.

 

It is a great modern star wars story. it's just no longer *my* star wars. the feelings i had walking out of the cinema, down the path to the car began with happiness, and by the end of it, i felt like i'd just broken up with a friend.

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41 minutes ago, JohnC said:

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What have we seen him do to suggest he is all that powerful? Aren’t you just taking him at his own word? It’s not like he had a lot of competition. 

 

Why does he need to be so super to gain that title? Look who Supreme Leader of the US is right now.

 

 

Well I'm going off what was mentioned before the film was released, he waas meant to be more powerful than Vader and the Emperor. With some evidence being shown in the film:

 

Snoke was reading Kylo's mind this whole time, so he could have known about growing resentment. In fact, he seemed to make Kylo resent him on purpose. "Take off that ridiculous mask." He has him kill Han. He may have precipitated the entire episode with Luke contemplating killing Ben, creating this father figure distrust.

 

Snoke appears to be more powerful than Sidious. Kylo Ren and Rey were like rag dolls to Snoke, and Kylo Ren has the power to stop a blaster bolt in midair with the force - Kylo and Rey seem to be equals. To many, this makes his sudden death conspicuously of out of place and thematically weak for how powerful his character is.

 

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I don't see a huge problem with what happened in that scene, given past history.

 

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We've seen in Jedi that an all-powerful user of the Dark Side can be distracted.

 

Snoke may or may not be as powerful as The Emperor, but he still suffers from that same arrogance.

 

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2 hours ago, Commander Jameson said:

 

Didn't we actually get that in AOTC with Jango bumping his head on the Slave 1 door, implying that the stormtrooper clones were genetically clumsy?

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1 hour ago, Nicky said:

i watched this yesterday. and im so conflicted. there were plenty of issues from, stupid shit, to tone, to plot and consistency, but on the other hand it was everything star wars should be, and i enjoyed it.

 

It is a great modern star wars story. it's just no longer *my* star wars. the feelings i had walking out of the cinema, down the path to the car began with happiness, and by the end of it, i felt like i'd just broken up with a friend.

 

It's weird, in some ways I feel like this film is almost trying to make that a point. It's all about letting go of the past

to the point of being heavy handed with Yoda destroying the literal books of lore when Luke hesitates.

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Man, those ‘ancient’ Jedi books looked shitty. It was like someone had knocked up the covers with fymo and poster paint ten minutes before filming.

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41 minutes ago, ZOK said:

Man, those ‘ancient’ Jedi books looked shitty. It was like someone had knocked up the covers with fymo and poster paint ten minutes before filming.

did you  notice finn rummaging through the drawers in the falcon and seeing more of those exact same books that were supposedly burned?

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12 minutes ago, Nicky said:

 

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did you  notice finn rummaging through the drawers in the falcon and seeing more of those exact same books that were supposedly burned?

 

Yeah they were the same I wouldn't be surprised if they were gifted to her

 

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I watched Rogue One again last night (mmmm space battles) and have to admit that I'm a shallow old fanboy trapped in the nostalgia of my childhood, with the original Star Wars as the sweet spot and the further away from that the less interested I become. It happened with the prequels and it's happening again with the direction of this new trilogy. Sad to think I'm now looking forward to Solo more than Epi ix, but there it is. 

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I watched this again yesterday and I figured out something that I was questioning on my first watch.

 

I originally wondered why...

 

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The Resistance transport ships couldn't hide in front of the cruiser and let the cruiser take the fire. But I realised this time that the arcing shots were going around the cruiser.

 

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arguing that "laser" battery shots can't arc is futile when you are in a universe where the "lasers" aren't lasers anyway.

 

The weapons are "blasters" or "cannons" of various types - and we don't know the physics of how they work because they have been made up by writers :D

 

I mean look at the stun setting that fires circles what is that about :D

 

 

 

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I'm probably alone in thinking this, but Domhnall Gleeson/General Hux is by far my favourite character in these new films. Love the ham, and it became cemented in The Last Jedi when in the opening scenes it struck me that he's effectively an intergalactic Commissioner William Regal. 

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I thought Hux was rubbish in TFA.  He didn't ham nearly far enough and was pretty bland.  Much better ham quotient in TLJ (and Snoke made a point of why he kept him around)

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3 hours ago, Glasgowchivas said:

 

I'm sure we've discussed it already up thread but when 

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Luke pauses in burning down the tree with the books inside and then Yoda shows up and does it for him before booping him on the head, he tells Luke something like "Don't worry about the books, she already has all the knowledge she needs." which Luke takes as a reflection on Rey's inate wisdom and pureness of heart but we later see is actually down to Yoda knowing she's already swiped the books, being fed up of Luke's bullshit. He does love to talk in riddles, the little green shit.

 

 

Somehow I missed this. Yoda really is the biggest troll in the universe.

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2 hours ago, Unofficial Who said:

One thing I really didn't like about the movie.

 

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Maz is a union buster? Please say it ain't so!

 

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You can hear a Hutt laugh at the start of the call, so I assumed “union negotiations” was a euphemism for “the mob trying to strongarm some money out of her”, rather than Maz’s glass collectors asking for a pay rise  

 

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