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On 11/01/2019 at 16:39, Illyria said:

Right now I am really glad Netflix always offers a summary of the previous season when releasing a new one, this time I really need it!

 

I find that a side effect of binge-watching is that I forget stuff much more compared to the old fashioned episode-per-week way of watching.   I still binge mind.

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9 hours ago, JPickford said:

 

I find that a side effect of binge-watching is that I forget stuff much more compared to the old fashioned episode-per-week way of watching.   I still binge mind.

Agree about that. There was a study that was reported in the newspapers last year that people who binged remembered less about shows when asked. I tend to watch 2 or 3 episodes at a time and still forget stuff.

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Unfortunately this season is a complete mess. Character motivations all over the place, wildly pointless plot strands, questionable morality (yes, even for a Punisher series), strange focus on uninteresting dialogue and just generally uneven pacing. A genuine letdown after the first three enjoyable episodes.

 

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In particular, the relationship between the doctor and Billy is unbelievably boring and generally difficult to believe. There's a scene later on where the doctor character has admitted not caring about a bunch of people being killed, where she then tells a sad story from her past to her murderous boyfriend, which is shot and scored as if we as the audience are supposed to find touchingly sad, which would have worked to develop her character before she came out as a horrible person minutes before. Really hamfisted writing.

 

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14 hours ago, Benny said:

I seem to remember the first season being a lot more engaging. Though episode 3:

 

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Police station siege was excellent. Just a shame after that it slows to a crawl.

 

 

Yeah, I'm six episodes in but that seems about right. I was really hooked after the first three and now it's grinding. I do hope it picks up again soon.

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Yes.

 

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The series makes the grave error throughout that we give a shit about him, so it follows Billy for long stretches, including attempting to create some embryonic dark love story that never actually develops much or is believable, rather than focusing on seeing Frank in new and creative situations which is the entire reason for the show to exist.

 

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There's a monumentally stupid bit near the end of the series:

 

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Frank gets tricked by into thinking he shot some women to death by accident while trying to shoot at Billy. While he could have some character development lying in a hospital bed and almost certainly going to jail, detective Midoni goes to the morgue to prove that actually, he can't have killed them, so that Frank doesn't have to worry about having killed "innocents". This ignores all the people he absolutely has killed up to this point, and the detective seems far more interested in the fact that this apparently exonerates Frank rather than the fact three women were still gunned down in cold blood because she sent Frank out to effectively murder someone for her. Karen goes along for the ride too and seems unfazed by this. It's shockingly terrible writing.

 

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I think binge watching something takes something away from the enjoyment of the series. I watched the first episode yesterday on my laptop as the Mrs wanted to watch The Greatest Showman which involved lots of singing and a woman with big tits and a beard. 

 

The Punisher isn't the greatest Netflix show ever or anything but it's not terrible. The first series was a bit stretched out in places but if you put all the highlights together, you'd probably change your mind. 

 

I thought episode 1 was a bit wtf?! What the hell is this! Until

 

The bar fight - holy shit, brutal stuff - how many times did he hit that guy in the face with the shotgun? The sound effect was horrible.

 

I liked the first episode in the end as it started out by basically telling you that no matter his circumstances, he's a brutal mo fo. 

 

Netflix are dumping the Marvel stuff because of the upcoming Disney service aren't they? @gospvg - Disney own the rights. 

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