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6 minutes ago, b00dles said:

It is good though, it controls fine on console but it's a very simple control set without any of the quite clever radial menu and "holding one button to change function of other button" things that tropico does but it works well enough. If you've been playing a touch screen version of it, I can't imagine it will be worse than that tbh.

I'm also spoiled as the pc version i was playing on the steam controller too, which is a way better pad setup than the ps4 one, even without the trackpad use. 

 

I'm glad the control scheme plays well, I will definetly pick this up at some point now. The other game I was looking at was Stellaris, have you tried that?

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1 minute ago, gospvg said:

 

I'm glad the control scheme plays well, I will definetly pick this up at some point now. The other game I was looking at was Stellaris, have you tried that?

I'm a sucker for the Civ games ever since the first one. If anything, it's a slight cheek that the expansion dlc just added things to 6 which they'd taken out of 5 like the giant death robots and the loyalty mechanic but the natural disaster stuff and global warming thing is good too. Just a shame it seems broken on big maps at the mo. 

 

Stellaris I tried but didn't get on with for whatever reason. Even though it's silly, I find the real world names and things to be more engaging somehow. Even alpha centauri back in the day I didn't enjoy as much because of the fictional factions and so on. I'm sure it plays a good game as it were but despite loving Sci-fi, it doesn't quite click for me in the context of these games. No idea why really. 

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16 minutes ago, b00dles said:

I'm a sucker for the Civ games ever since the first one. If anything, it's a slight cheek that the expansion dlc just added things to 6 which they'd taken out of 5 like the giant death robots and the loyalty mechanic but the natural disaster stuff and global warming thing is good too. Just a shame it seems broken on big maps at the mo. 

 

Stellaris I tried but didn't get on with for whatever reason. Even though it's silly, I find the real world names and things to be more engaging somehow. Even alpha centauri back in the day I didn't enjoy as much because of the fictional factions and so on. I'm sure it plays a good game as it were but despite loving Sci-fi, it doesn't quite click for me in the context of these games. No idea why really. 

 

I've not tried Tropico yet that is on my list to enjoy, not sure which version was added to PS+ a while ago but before that I have two lovely strategy titles to enjoy in Desperados 3 & Shadow Tactics. Stellaris I love Sci-Fi but worry how it will play on a controller.

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I might get desperados 3 myself but some of the previous ones (or the ww2 one, can't remember exactly) got a bit too like specific clockwork to win, in that there was only really one "right" way to do a level but 3 does seem better in that respect. 

Shadow tactics I didn't finish either actually, might give that another look, although both of those are very different to civ of course. 

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  • 5 months later...

Oh yes. Both the Gathering Storm and New Frontier pass are well worth it. If you have to choose one the former adds more “game”, with the latter mainly being more Civs with the balance tweaks included being free to all either way I believe. 

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10 minutes ago, Yasawas said:

Oh yes. Both the Gathering Storm and New Frontier pass are well worth it. If you have to choose one the former adds more “game”, with the latter mainly being more Civs with the balance tweaks included being free to all either way I believe. 

They are in a pack for £13.19 at the moment... Seems like I might have to buy!

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I've played it on the PC a bit and the two expansions are excellent, they turn a decent Civ game into a great one. The other DLC packs offer extra civilizations and a few new ways of playing the game.

 

I'm very very tempted myself, just heard a few concerning reports about the Xbox version crashing a bit but not sure if that problem's been resolved now or not.

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On 01/09/2021 at 15:24, Skull Commander said:

I see the "Anthology" pack with everything is for sale on Xbox for 27 (or thereabout) quid. Is this a worthwhile buy? I was tempted by the base game before, but I understand this is all the dlc and they are making no more for this particular title. 

 

Just to answer your question - I decided to get this and I don't regret it! It's the full Civ 6 experience and it's been thoughtfully adapted for console. Text is nice and big and readable and all the menus have been sensibly redesigned from the PC version. The graphical style of Civ 6 isn't the clearest at a distance, sadly, but if you play a bit zoomed in then it's perfectly playable.

 

You get ALL the content which is absolutely overwhelming at first especially as more stuff is hidden away on menus in order to reduce screen clutter. Take your time and it will all make sense in the end. The "view" button (two little squares) brings up tooltips for pretty much everything so things will fall into place in time.

 

I've had no crashes or technical issues whatsoever in the first couple of hours of play although of course that may change as games get bigger and more complex. It's super smooth and loads nice and fast on the Series X.

 

Top tip: it might sound fun to play as the Scottish but you'll have to endure constant bagpipe music from the very beginning which will quickly drive you insane. As I discovered to my cost. And disable Auto HDR for this game, I have no idea why they decided to implement it for this title but making everything super bright on a game you'll be staring at for hundreds of hours wasn't the smartest decision.

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2 hours ago, Garwoofoo said:

 

Top tip: it might sound fun to play as the Scottish but you'll have to endure constant bagpipe music from the very beginning which will quickly drive you insane. 


The constant bagpipe renditions of Scotland the Brave are why I would keep playing as Scotland!

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Started a quick play game and on turn 2 the river I’d built Paris next to suddenly flooded. I was then beset on all sides by barbarians. They burned down the two farms I’d managed to build and killed all my warriors and slingers. Was an interesting way to start the game!

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Yeah, barbarians seem super-aggressive on Civ 6 compared to other games in the series, ancient eras always seem to be spent swatting them away. I'm sure there's a modifier somewhere you can apply that tones them down.

 

Worth noting that the default difficulty level (Prince) is actually pretty tough if you're trying to get the grips with the game, I would tone that right down for any kind of learning experience.

 

My Scottish game resulted in me starting in a tiny area surrounded by ice and mountains with the only exit being blocked by a super un-cooperative city state. I'll be restarting that one I think.

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I started a new game as Japan. My tech tree is still stuck in the medieval era, whilst Queen Victoria and Amanitore are in the modern era...how the hell am I supposed to keep up?

 

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Queen Victoria almost immediately declared war on me with knights and catapults against my club-wielding warriors when we'd entered the medieval era and it was only with the sudden invention of Samurai that I was able to fight her off. She eventually asked to make peace so I did whilst I rebuilt my army, then I took the war to her and was denounced by the only other nation I'd come into contact with - Nubia. Then a world council was held admonishing me for being a warmonger despite the fact that I had a) had to defend myself against England and then b) fought back.

 

I eventually managed to capture Liverpool but almost immediately lost it to rebellion - no idea how to get it back and my military is both too weakened and now too outdated to try by force. Then, within about 8 turns, they went back to England anyway.

 

Basically, I think Japan is a bit fucked...

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Do you have any campuses at all?

 

You need the science points to research things that progress you through the technological ages, you can see which technologies belong to what era on the tech tree, there's a vertical line splitting each era. You can effectively jump ahead without researching all of the tech in one era (but this can stitch you up).

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Well the game ended in defeat on turn 338, with me in Renaissance era and England, now brushing the future era, wiping me out one city at a time whilst I was powerless to resist. I was researching things every single turn, often the recommended ones from my advisor, but I just couldn't keep up with anybody else. If I pushed my army, everything else suffered, so I stopped pushing army to focus on arts and politics and ended up still with samurai and catapults whilst Victoria attacked me with planes and infantry. What a load of bullshit.

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You need at least one campus very early doors, all that tech is needed for a lot of stuff early game and most cities can defend from a lot with archer and walls.

 

Or you just make one city next to some mountains to specialise in research as you get bonuses for campus district next to mountains.

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I'm really not feeling this so far. Started on the tutorial and it got to a point where it wouldn't let me make the move needed to proceed. Googled it and it seems to be a known bug. Started the game proper now but it's really user unfriendly and I can't understand why I can't seem to build certain structures within cities. For all the pop up prompts and info, it doesn't seem to tell you things when you actually need it to. Also that World Congress screen can get right to fuck. 

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3 minutes ago, Skull Commander said:

I'm really not feeling this so far. Started on the tutorial and it got to a point where it wouldn't let me make the move needed to proceed. Googled it and it seems to be a known bug. Started the game proper now but it's really user unfriendly and I can't understand why I can't seem to build certain structures within cities. For all the pop up prompts and info, it doesn't seem to tell you things when you actually need it to. Also that World Congress screen can get right to fuck. 


As a general rule, buildings go in their respective Districts ( eg. Library and University in the Science District, Market and Bank in the Commercial District, etc). The main Districts can generally be plopped anywhere within your borders, but you get bonus yields for placing Districts in their preferred places, such the Science District adjacent to mountains or rainforests or the Theatre District adjacent to two or more other districts or a Wonder.

 

Some districts are special such as the Dam or Aerodrome and are built for their own sake, they don’t have specific buildings related to them. To start with try to get your Science/Faith, Commercial/Harbour, Theatre and Industrial Districts and their buildings up and running as soon as you can.

 

World Congress is shit in Civ 6 - I barely care what the outcome is. The AI values diplomatic points highly so you can trade them if needed.

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More culture extends your borders so you have more tiles to place stuff in which is very useful and try and specialise cities to an extent (to begin with certainly) and keep an eye on amount of cities the opposition has. 

 

The one big difference to all the previous civ games for me, was the amount of cities, even in 5 you could pretty much put a crap town down just to block off other civs etc. In this one though, if you have too many early on, you're spreading yourself too thin and stuff just stops but it never really says explicitly that that's why. 

 

You can't really play it exactly the same way as other civ games but it is an improvement overall. 

 

I've played far too much of it, across steam and the ps4 version so happy to drivel on about it if need be :)

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