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14 minutes ago, Isaac said:

Figured I'd give this another go now it's on game pass. 

 

First time around, play 30 minutes, get to the bit where you find a woman and burn the barn down, then had to go and do something else. Left the console (Xbox one X) to go to sleep, come back, game has crashed, have to do the boring "follow two guys on a horse" bit again. 

 

Fine, I can give it another go. Boot a new game, do it again, get to the bit where the guy jumps you in the barn and the button prompts are broken so can't actually do the fight without restarting the whole thing again, for a second time in three hours.

 

This game is a bunch of railroady broken fucking shite, isn't it?

 

Nah it's a sublime masterpiece. 

 

EDIT: Bit troll-y my response there. But I chucked it on again last night and just wandered around the post game landscape doing a bit of fishing for 3 hours and it just flew by. I love it so so much. 

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8 minutes ago, Isaac said:

Figured I'd give this another go now it's on game pass. 

 

First time around, play 30 minutes, get to the bit where you find a woman and burn the barn down, then had to go and do something else. Left the console (Xbox one X) to go to sleep, come back, game has crashed, have to do the boring "follow two guys on a horse" bit again. 

 

Fine, I can give it another go. Boot a new game, do it again, get to the bit where the guy jumps you in the barn and the button prompts are broken so can't actually do the fight without restarting the whole thing again, for a second time in three hours.

 

This game is a bunch of railroady broken fucking shite, isn't it?

 

Think you just got unlucky.

 

@Thor Did you play on Xbox? I don’t think I’m turning the HDR off properly. Even when I disable HDR at the system level I can still play around with the settings in game. Maybe I need to reboot the game?

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1 hour ago, Stevie said:

I'm really impressed with Rockstar and how their games can be played on anything from a potato to an expensive rig

 

 

 

The low settings make the game look early 2000's.

Beautiful. Think I might have to switch to potato settings from now on. 

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On 08/05/2020 at 23:40, Thor said:

The HDR in this is an absolute joke, always has been. The game looks better in SDR, because it was made for SDR. 

 

They retro fitted the HDR in, but it's not too bad. I'm using the settings below which makes it look better than SDR imo.

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I think you should set peak brightness to whatever your TV’s maximum brightness is in nits, and paper white to whatever looks OK.
 

I think paper white is meant to be the brightness of a white object that’s exposed to the light but not glowing. By my logic that means paper white should be as bright as SDR allows. They say to calibrate an SDR display for 100 nits in a dark room and 200 nits in the dark, so putting “paper white” somewhere between those two should give you a decent result.

 

Edit - Game Mode of course. Cinematic Mode just gives you the equivalent of an SDR image with your TV backlight turned up all the way.

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On 07/05/2020 at 21:28, HarryBizzle said:

I tried carrying on with my save and can’t make heads or tails of this, so have restarted. 
 

Does anyone actually use the Cinematic HDR mode? It’s incredibly dull and washed out on my telly. 
 

And does someone have a link to the post which details how to adjust the settings to make it control a bit better?

 

 

 

Those were my control recommendations back when it came out and I still use them now for Online. Seem to work pretty well for me. 

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3 hours ago, Meerman said:

 

They retro fitted the HDR in, but it's not too bad. I'm using the settings below which makes it look better than SDR imo.

 

It’s just odd how different it is to SDR. If you watch this on your TV and skip to 9 mins there’s a side by side comparison:

 

 

I’ve decided it’s not worth wasting any more time on. I like the HDR effects and even though the desaturation is a bit annoying, you quickly get used to it.

 

@Alex W. The peak brightness setting then has a 10% drop off in game, for some bizarre reason. I’ve got it set to about 2500 on my OLED.

 

 

@pinholestar Thanks, I found them and actually reposted them at the top of the page. I then adjusted them to the ones Boozy posted which are not really that different to yours but they also felt fine so I didn’t bother changing them back.

 

 

 

I’m haven’t done anything in this that I didn’t do the first time around except for a couple of bounties but am having a great time with it. I think when I first played it I tried to get out and explore the world in Chapter 2, not realising you’re still basically in the tutorial and kept running into hurdles.

 

 

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Finished and restarted. Even only in Chapter 2 I'm discovering stuff I missed last go. This is an exploration game tour de force. Spending more time in camps chatting and over hearing conversations missed. Hearing Uncle singing drunken dirty songs. Reading newspapers full of clues and backstory to things to be discovered. Rockstar must have a flow chart/ room full of red string the size of a small city for the hidden stuff that links everything together. 

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I've also recently restarted just to see what it looks like on an OLED and I'm finding it more engaging in these early stages now that I know the characters so well. The Blackwater allusions in the background have so much more significance now. It's heartbreaking to see certain characters full of hope and trust, but it adds more pathos to every scene. As a narrative, it really is one of the very best in gaming and it's probably the best 'cinematic' game ever made. There's a depth to it which is revealing new layers on a second playthrough. While I have played a lot of games with more mechanical depth on a second run, there are very few with characters as rich as these. 

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50 minutes ago, Stanshall said:

I've also recently restarted just to see what it looks like on an OLED and I'm finding it more engaging in these early stages now that I know the characters so well. The Blackwater allusions in the background have so much more significance now. It's heartbreaking to see certain characters full of hope and trust, but it adds more pathos to every scene. As a narrative, it really is one of the very best in gaming and it's probably the best 'cinematic' game ever made. There's a depth to it which is revealing new layers on a second playthrough. While I have played a lot of games with more mechanical depth on a second run, there are very few with characters as rich as these. 

 

Yes! It's the slow burn of the thing. Just slowly watching one by one everyone lose faith in Dutch as he spirals out of control. It's similar to those early seasons of The Walking Dead where the show used its long form nature to tell a zombie story in a way it hadn't really been seen before. This story couldn't have been told as effectively in an hour and a half, and couldn't have been told as well without giving you the chance to go and mingle and chat with everyone at your own pace. 

 

As much as everyone says it's just a linear cinematic series of missions, the game is as brilliant as it is because of the player's agency in the story. 

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The camp parties are amazing things - you'll never see everything happening on one sitting, and each time you play I'm fairly sure I've seen new ones. It's watching Javier play the guitar - I swear the fingering is absolutely spot on for most it too. It's Shaun drunkenly woo'ing Karen into bed and it all ending a little quicker than probably either wanted (and Shaun calling me a pervert after listening in :p ). 

 

 

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Right, this has been bugging me for a very long time with the PC version, and I've not been able to sort it out. I suspect it's something to do with the shift to 60fps, but I'm not tech savvy enough with these sorts of things. Now, the majority of the time, the game looks gorgeous. It's nice and smooth and works fine. 

 

So, the easiest thing I can say is take a look at this the beginning part of an early level: 'Polite Society, Valentine Style' on PS4 first:

 

 

Looks great - well, aside from Arthur's questionable attire, but that's beside the point. Everything's animated pretty nicely.

 

Now, take a look at the PC version:

 

 

The girls' dresses, plus things like the laundry on the line are stuttery and nasty :(

 

And I cannot see how this can be solved. It's like a really shit version of what some devs do with far away things and animate them at lower fps compared to the foreground stuff, but - for me at least - it's one of those things that annoys me enormously.

 

I'm going to assume there isn't an answer to this and I'll obviously live with it, but if someone does have an idea, then I'm all ears (and eyes).

 

Bear in mind, I've fucked around with the games settings loads (Vulkan, DX12, lower settings, refresh rates etc), and nothing does the trick.  It's a terribly small thing in the grand scheme of things, but nonetheless it's bothersome to me.

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1 hour ago, JoeK said:

And I cannot see how this can be solved. It's like a really shit version of what some devs do with far away things and animate them at lower fps compared to the foreground stuff, but - for me at least - it's one of those things that annoys me enormously.

 

I'm going to assume there isn't an answer to this and I'll obviously live with it, but if someone does have an idea, then I'm all ears (and eyes).

I'd like to think there's an ini file edit that can sort that. But I know exactly what you mean, it's why I gave up on Halo 5 on the One X, it does the exact same thing and with that game being an FPS it's fucking criminal that it happens. If it's not fixable on the PC version of this, then I'll just stick with my PS4 version and be glad I didn't waste money double-dipping.

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On 11/05/2020 at 14:59, Thor said:

I'd like to think there's an ini file edit that can sort that. But I know exactly what you mean, it's why I gave up on Halo 5 on the One X, it does the exact same thing and with that game being an FPS it's fucking criminal that it happens. If it's not fixable on the PC version of this, then I'll just stick with my PS4 version and be glad I didn't waste money double-dipping.

 

Stick with the PS4 version. I've just been my usual self and bought it again on PS4. Sure, it's 30fps, but it's so much better optimised than the PC versions. It's not optimised to run well at 60fps without some real issues with some of the detail stuff. Lip sync goes slightly 'nanas from time to time. The aformentioned fabric animations. 

 

Don't get me wrong - stuff like the improved water effects are amazing on the PC version for sure. But for every wonderful effect, there's an element that causes the quality to fuck right up and in turn fuck me off.

 

And it really doesn't look like they're going to improve it that much more - most of the recent patches have been for online. And god knows I'm not going to be playing that.

 

I much prefer it on console, and starting to replay it again on there cements that. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Thor said:

I figured as much. Shame, isn't GTA V pretty well optimised on PC? 

 

It's fine now, but it's taken years to get it right to be honest. Maybe in time it'll happen with RDR2 - hope so.

 

Actually, with GTAV - if the rumours are true, it may well be the free game on the Epic store soon!

 

 

 

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Whereas I have given this a fourth go and bounced off it, again. This time I gave it 20 hours or so. It's just not for me.

 

It feels like some sub-par HBO western plot with terrible, terrible gameplay bolted on. Barely a videogame, yet not the quality of a CGI film. An odd middle ground that just doesn't work.

 

It also has no respect for your time.

 

I really want to see what everyone else sees in it but for me this game just doesn't work on a fundamental level, despite objectively seeing the effort put into the graphics and world. It just doesn't work.

 

Back to Yakuza Zero I guess, a game that doesn't have the graphical clout of RDR, but a game that knows it's a videogame and continuously has fun with it 

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Playing through for the first time and I’m in Saint Denis. It’s not perfect (Controls and slightly static mission structure) but the scope of the game is beyond compare. 
 

I just watched the theatre show that you can do with your lady friend. The whole scene is brilliant and the show is genuinely good. Thing is it’s totally optional. You don’t have to be in a position to go and even if you do go you don’t have to agree to go to the theatre. Wonderful. The sound, the feeling etc. Just wow. 

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I bounced off this hard the first time I played it, I just couldn’t get used to the controls and gave up shortly after getting to Horseshoe Overlook. I then came back to it over a year later and fell in love with it. I still think that it controls terribly so I don’t have an issue with anyone who doesn’t like it for that, but you’re absolutely right that the scale is enormous. I loved the story and the world is beautiful. 
 

I mentioned this in another thread but I think Rockstar made a mistake in making it so expansive. They could have made a game half the length, half the size of map and half the side content and it would have still been worth full price (for those who like it obviously). We didn’t get a GTA this gen, or maybe we could have had something new from Rockstar, which I think is a shame. 

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19 minutes ago, ChristopherBloodAxe said:

I was riding past a graveyard, heard some voices from within and went to investigate. A priest was conducting a funeral service for a man I had killed in a recent bounty mission.

 

Felt proud. Blue lives matter.

 

This was a great little post, until the final sentence. Is that meant to be a joke?

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Honestly, with the exception of the island section and the fact it doesn’t let me kill Micah within 5 minutes of meeting that sack of shit, I thought this was a masterpiece. Albeit an incredibly bittersweet one. Act 3 Athur hanging out with the veteran and the widow in the hills were just lovely, lovely moments I treasure. And Mrs Adler owns bones.

 

Usually with these highly praised narrative driven titles, I tend to bounce off them (I found TLoU aggressively mediocre and largely unmemorable, and The Witcher 3 failed to grab me in its first few hours so barely been bothered to go back to it) but this held my attention from the opening to the sadly inevitable conclusion.

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3 minutes ago, Yiggy said:

Random question. Once you’ve finished the single player game can I still roam around the open world hunting etc or would I need to start a new game?

 

Yes you can.

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