Sonic Forces

[dataDave]

Destroying enemies looks really off... Like you are punished for doing so and lose momentum.

[Nespresso]

Holy fuck (and sorry for the hit and run posting) but my god that is some awful sound design. Every single bit of that is annoying as hell!

[Qazimod]

Why is the music all over the place? Why is the sound mix so dodgy? Why did they think that BWOOP jump effect was any good? Why isn't he insta-rolling when he enters tunnels (1:10)? WHY IS SO MUCH OF THAT STAGE DEVOID OF ANY THREAT (very few enemies, the ones that are there hardly do anything, and platforms crumble down to safe ground anyway (EDIT: okay this might be for alternate routes, but still)?) Even Green Hill was more challenging.

 

Okay, this might turn out alright, but I hope the other zones  have more going on.

[MW_Jimmy]

Sonic Team should be worried because I think that there is a real chance a small indie studio with a hobbyist engine is going to make a better Sonic game than they are.

 

I think the only reason that Sonic Mania isn't getting a physical release is because they know that the public will definitely pick it up over this embarrassing crap.

[PK]

3 hours ago, Fallows said:

Destroying enemies looks really off... Like you are punished for doing so and lose momentum.

 

Yeah, that looks bizarre; the springboards seem to do it as well.

 

It's so strange that the one thing the old Sonic games had over Mario - how good Sonic's momentum felt to control - is the thing they get so consistently wrong in the new 2d/2.5d games.

[NEG]

Mania is putting that latest trailer to shame indeed. It's very much Generations 2, so half-arsed physics, but with Mania around the corner they don't have an excuse to half-arse 2D Sonic anymore in the so-called 'real' attempts.

 

The music is also approaching Sonic 4 levels of bad, which is horrifying to think about.

 

Still, early days and all that.

[NEG]

7 hours ago, MW_Jimmy said:

Sonic Team should be worried because I think that there is a real chance a small indie studio with a hobbyist engine is going to make a better Sonic game than they are.

 

Bolded for truth, at least when it comes to decisions regarding 2D for the last 10+ years.

[Isaac]

That music is fucking awful. I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds.

[deKay]

12 hours ago, MW_Jimmy said:

Sonic Team should be worried because I think that there is a real chance a small indie studio with a hobbyist engine is going to make a better Sonic game than they are.

 

This would be worrying for them, but it has already happened multiple times before.

[Paulando]

Looks great, just like the originals!

 

Except, it doesn't at all. Sonic is tiny, the physics are way off, It's either too fast or too boring and slow and the music is dreadful. It's basically a lazy rehash of Sonic Generations.

[MW_Jimmy]

1 hour ago, deKay said:

 

This would be worrying for them, but it has already happened multiple times before.

 

Not with two competing commercial products. If both were on shop shelves side-by-side I think a lot more people would pick up Mania.

[deKay]

Just watched the video.

 

Holy shit. Did they not look at that and think perhaps they shouldn't have shown it? The music is awful. There are frame-rate issues. The animation is woeful. The level design is shocking.

 

Reminds me of this:

 

 

[Down by Law]

Well I for one am glad we waited six years for a follow up to Generations that looks worse.

 

Things I liked :

The way the grass sways

It's fast

It's colourful so could look lovely especially with HDR

 

Things I didn't:

Physics are wonky again

The music is absolutely fucking terrible

Why is Sonic so small

Animation looks like it's missing, that part where he just runs in mid air looks dumb. We don't have megadrive limitations any more

Abundance of hidden springs at the end of a clear jump point

Six years why

 

[PK]

Sonic Consternations

[RubberJohnny]

 

Finally:

[MW_Jimmy]

Oh, the furries will be pleased.

[Qazimod]

When we jokingly ask how many new friends of Sonic will be introduced in the next game, I don't think anyone was expecting this kind of response. Have as many shit mascots as you like, guys!  

[NEG]

I wonder if I can re-create Sparkster...

 

 

More likely Furry Bionic Commando Bomberman

[Keyboard Koala]

Sonic cycle proceeding as expected and on schedule. 

 

At least some things in life never change...

[Lothar Hex]

Dear God...they've managed to figure out how to use Sonic Fan Characters (tm) to make money. Those cunning bastards.

[Keyboard Koala]

I thought you'd be pleased...

[RubberJohnny]

Also the lanky character, grappling hook and nonsensical inclusion of two Sonics really make it look like this was originally Sonic Boom Sonic but switched out because it was hated.

[Lothar Hex]

12 minutes ago, Keyboard Koala said:

I thought you'd be pleased...

You take that back!

[NEG]

https://www.destructoid.com/sonic-forces-will-have-customizable-playable-characters-436357.phtml

 

Quote

 

As shown in the reveal trailer that's embedded above, these new hero characters can be customized from head to toe. Upper headgear, middle headgear, lower headgear, gloves, footwear, body, bodysuit, and skin color are the categories that we're shown in the video. Although the details can be tweaked, the characters have to be one of seven pre-chosen animals. They are (with their special abilities):

 

Wolf -- Automatically draws in rings when near them

Rabbit -- Has longer invincible time after receiving damage

Cat -- Keeps one ring after being hit

Dog -- Restarts with five rings after the player dies

Bear -- Blows away enemies with a homing attack

Bird -- Flies high with double jump abilities

Hedgehog -- Collects rings when getting damaged

 

In addition to their abilities, these heroes also have "wispons" which are essentially unique gadgets that help make up for the fact that they aren't Sonic. Sega calls them "an evolution of the Color Powers from Sonic Colors." The customizable characters are also equipped with a grappling hook. We took a trip to Sega's offices earlier this year and played as a red wolf with a flamethrower.

 

 

We've never had wolves or bears. I shall make Yogi the Bear, hopefully rings change into picnic baskets.

[Azrael]

14 hours ago, NEG said:

We've never had wolves or bears. I shall make Yogi the Bear, hopefully rings change into picnic baskets.

 

 

What about Bark the Polar Bear:

 

 

 

Some Sonic fanboy you are. 

[NEG]

Just now, Azrael said:

 

 

What about Bark the Polar Bear:

 

 

 

Some Sonic fanboy you are. 

 

My friend noted that to me actually and I took it at face value, I shouldn't have taken his word for it!

[Nick R]

On 2017-5-16 at 16:32, RubberJohnny said:

Finally:

 

original character do not steal

[Qazimod]

Sick burn on khaoskid663 tho.

[LaveDisco]

Every time someone moans about the slow release rate of Nintendos game the forum should automatically redirect them to this thread. 

 

 

[Chooch]

On 25/04/2017 at 22:04, PK said:

 

Yeah, that looks bizarre; the springboards seem to do it as well.

 

It's so strange that the one thing the old Sonic games had over Mario - how good Sonic's momentum felt to control - is the thing they get so consistently wrong in the new 2d/2.5d games.

Marios momentum is his best thing. No other platformer comes close, including original sonic.