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4 hours ago, RubberJohnny said:

Given the reason they couldn't cancel the Flash was "they can't just not release and writedown a hundred-million dollar movie", I sure as shit hope that one gets cancelled.

 

White person in that, so, no.

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This must be massively shit not to be released, which is interesting because the directors made the first and final eps of Ms Marvel. I've only watched a couple of eps of that show so far so I'm not sure about the finale, but their first ep was really great.

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Ugh, Batgirl deserves better than this.

 

1 hour ago, Girth Certificate said:

Didn't know it was filmed in Glasgow. Maybe it was just too grim for Gotham.

 

A while ago one of my co-workers said something was being filmed outside his living room. He sent us a photo of Trongate all decked out with yellow cabs and Gotham signage everywhere. It really looked the part, I was looking forward to seeing how it all turned out.

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1 hour ago, HarryBizzle said:

You have to wonder how absolutely terrible this is to get cancelled on its worth as a film while ol’ Ezra goes around grooming teenagers and waving guns in people’s faces and is apparently still coming. 

Well, I never watched the Batgirl TV show, but that was supposed to be terrible. If the movie follows that, it's not too much of a surprise. They would have just weighed up the costs of polishing off the film, vs the increase in subs cash for releasing a turd....The Flash is the big boy tent pole, movie which will make money, even if some boycott it for Crazy Miller.

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It doubles for London a fair bit too, and is probably better for car chases given the wide roads and hills. I was filled with patriotic fervour when I saw a Greggs pop up in Hobbs & Shaw:


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The reason why Flash hasn't been cancelled is because the problem lies in how integral the Flashpoint movie is to the rest of the DC universe movies coming out due to the multiverse stuff included. I'm sure Discovery would love to nuke it however, it affects their bottom dollar.

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6 minutes ago, odb said:

 

I agree its disrespectful. The reason why it hasn't been cancelled is not because he's white which so stupid I can't comprehend wrapping my head around. 

 

Wasn't my intention.

 

As I'm sure it wasn't yours either, so perhaps you should change it too.

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39 minutes ago, IcEBuRN said:

Well, I never watched the Batgirl TV show, but that was supposed to be terrible.

 

What Batgirl TV show? There was a Batwoman TV series - totally different thing!

 

 

People have been talking about how bad it must be in order to avoid releasing it. But this is the studio that released Suicide Squad (2016), Wonder Woman 1984, and the 2017 version of Justice League! Can it really be that much worse than those?

 

From what I've seen, the only source for assertions that Batgirl had disastrous test screenings was the New York Post. :seanr:

 

 

 

This is Variety's article on it:

 

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/batgirl-movie-why-not-releasing-warner-bros-1235332062/

 

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Several sources note that “Batgirl” was made under a different regime at Warner Bros., headed by Jason Kilar and Ann Sarnoff, that was singularly focused on building its streaming service, HBO Max. That effort included Kilar’s infamous decision to release the studio’s entire 2021 theatrical slate simultaneously on the streamer, which helped build the subscriber base but also jeopardized the studio’s reputation with top-tier talent (though many agents and stars privately came to appreciate the move when the company paid generous bonuses as a make-nice).

 

Even before David Zaslav took the reins of the newly formed Warner Bros. Discovery as CEO this spring, the exec went on a well-publicized listening tour designed to repair the company’s relationship with the creative community. As part of that effort, Zaslav has made no secret of reversing Kilar’s strategy and committing to releasing first-run feature films in theaters before putting them on HBO Max.

 

“Batgirl” found itself on the bad end of that decision, apparently neither big enough to feel worthy of a major theatrical release nor small enough to make economic sense in an increasingly cutthroat streaming landscape. Spending the money to expand the scope of “Batgirl” for theaters — plus the $30 million to $50 million needed to market it domestically and the tens of millions more needed for a global rollout — could have nearly doubled spending on the film, and insiders say that was a non-starter at a company newly focused on belt-tightening and the bottom line. (Spokespeople for Warner Bros. and Warner Bros. Discovery declined to comment for this story.)

 

Releasing the movie on HBO Max would seem to be the most obvious solution. Instead, the company has shelved “Batgirl” — along with the “Scoob!” sequel — and several sources say it will almost certainly take a tax write-down on both films, seen internally as the most financially sound way to recoup the costs (at least, on an accountant’s ledger). It could justify that by chalking it up to a post-merger change of strategy.

 

Doing so, however, would mean that Warner Bros. cannot monetize either movie — no HBO Max debut, no sale to another studio.

 

And Deadline: https://deadline.com/2022/08/batgirl-scoob-discard-warnerbros-discovery-david-zaslav-jason-kilar-hbo-max-strategy-1235084032/

 

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Back to Batgirl and Scoob! Batgirl is a gritty entry — not near the budgets of DC theatricals The Flash and Aquaman 2 — and wasn’t designed to compete with tent pole theatrical releases, and neither for that matter was Scoob! In addition, there were introductions of characters in that film that the studio wanted to save for those DC theatrical titles. Rather than spend vast sums pumping up the budgets of each film to compete in theatrical marketplace, and then spend $80 million in global P&A, the studio felt that scrapping both of the movies was a better choice, when coupled with the purchase accounting maneuver.

 

Sources don’t expect other films to get killed like this, because the accounting opportunity expires by the middle of this month. But as all Warner Bros Discovery braces for Thursday’s quarterly earnings report and the layoffs that are sure to come, no one with a project made specifically for HBO Max or execs there can feel confident at this moment.

 

 

 

This is another way of looking at it:

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Nick R said:

From what I've seen, the only source for assertions that Batgirl had disastrous test screenings was the New York Post. :seanr:

 

IMPORTANT UPDATE: here's the EIC of Collider and someone from The Playlist arguing about how good/bad they've heard the test screenings were:

 

 

 

I will bring you more anecdotal evidence as I hear about it! :omg:

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1 hour ago, K said:

It doubles for London a fair bit too, and is probably better for car chases given the wide roads and hills. I was filled with patriotic fervour when I saw a Greggs pop up in Hobbs & Shaw:


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Strange they didn't alter the street names, Queen Street and George Square are quite reognisably Glasgow. I mean, so's the big fuck off Merchant City sign for that matter.

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2 minutes ago, petrolgirls said:

 

Strange they didn't alter the street names, Queen Street and George Square are quite reognisably Glasgow. I mean, so's the big fuck off Merchant City sign for that matter.


That chase sequence is so fast-moving I think you’d struggle to pick up any detail; I only picked up the Greggs bit subliminally, and had to rewind to figure out that yes, that was a Greggs that Idris Elba, Jason Statham and the Rock drove past. They fill the frame with enough black cabs and red buses to keep your eye away from the street signs and shop marquees. 
 

The F&F films do weird things with locations doubling for other places. F&F 6 has a scene in Moscow that was obviously filmed on Lambeth Bridge, and has scenes in London that were clearly filmed in Glasgow. I don’t particularly recommend watching the film, but it’s interesting in that it takes place in a kind of alternate universe virtual London that is made up of bits of other cities. 

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Even when they film in London they'll have guys powerslide around the BOE and then they're suddenly going by the London Eye. It's dream geography.

 

Hollywood accounting is amazing. They can spunk a hundred million dollars up the wall and just write it off. I'm not saying studios should go out of business but that's exactly what should happen. They should go out of business.

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They spent $100 million dollars by paying people to do stuff, not by digging a big hole and filling it with gold bricks. 

Creative types got paid very handsomely for their work, the only losers i can see are Glasgow council who paid a lot of money to get the filming done in the city. 

 

WB don't deserve to go out of business really, just because they don't release a film. Try to get some perspective.

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It's always fun when you spot your area in a movie. The chase at the very start of the second Kingsman movie has bits of Birmingham's finance district standing in for London. You'd never know, but when you do if you know the area you can spot your favourite pubs, bars, cafes all over the place.

 

Sad for Glasgow.

 

Probably not sad for cinema as this was inevitably going to be a shitshow. The Flash movie will be on tenterhooks.

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