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The accident was pretty horrific by all accounts, 100mph+ crash into the back of a car and then of into on coming traffic. But as a mate of mine said thats the way he lived his life. He was a keen extreme sports person. He loved the rush. Sad really ;)

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There were some disgraceful videos stuck on youtube not long after it had been confirmed. Some sick cunts took it upon themselves to go and get some footage of him laying dead in the street after hearing about the fatal crash that may (unconfirmed at the time) have involved Diego Corrales on local radio. In the comments section under the video people were going "lol I can see his brains". Sick, sick fucks. ;)

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Anybody catch Miranda vs Pavlik? If not then you should track down a torrent for it. An early contender for fight of the year for sure.

Very entertaining - he came out very single-mindedly and stuck to his plan didn't he? Be nice to see him in with Taylor, Calzaghie wants to fight Taylor but was slagging him off for fighting blown up light middle weights - Joe are you and Frank Warren the 2 peoplei nthe world least likely to understand irony?

Anyway - ESPN (Sky 442) classic is a goldmine for people like me that like watching old fights - there's some serious Foreman action on there at times, the foreman lyle fight

which if you've not seen you should - now and Foreman fighting Peralta - if you this fight (and the rematch) to a large extent you can see why Ali fancied fighting Foreman so much and why he'd beat him.
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Very entertaining - he came out very single-mindedly and stuck to his plan didn't he? Be nice to see him in with Taylor, Calzaghie wants to fight Taylor but was slagging him off for fighting blown up light middle weights - Joe are you and Frank Warren the 2 peoplei nthe world least likely to understand irony?

Anyway - ESPN (Sky 442) classic is a goldmine for people like me that like watching old fights - there's some serious Foreman action on there at times, the foreman lyle fight

which if you've not seen you should - now and Foreman fighting Peralta - if you this fight (and the rematch) to a large extent you can see why Ali fancied fighting Foreman so much and why he'd beat him.

I still re-watch a lot of old fights. I've accumulated quite a dvd collection over the years including a few of my favourite's entire careers. :wub:

It's quite sad when you think about the 80's and the likes of Duran, Leonard, Hagler and Hearns. We'll probably never see anything like that again. So many truly great fighters around at the same time, all of whom wanted the to fight eachother. And the worst thing is, I wasn't old enough to appreciate it at the time and I don't really remember it now. All I've got to go off are the recordings and articles etc. The legacies they left behind. :o

Calzaghe and Warren really do make me laugh. They wasted his prime fighting bums, defending that joke of a belt and now they're talking about cracking America? I don't understand it. If he wanted to go down as a great - and I believe he has the talent to do so - why not fight the best you can, when you can? Whatever he achieves now will probably be too little too late. Beating Taylor will not make me think any more of him than I do already. As things stand I'll remember him as a very good fighter and an average to poor champion that could have been great, but either didn't have the balls for it or was happy enough letting his promoter pad out his record and his bank balance. A shame because he really could have left a lasting impression on the sport.

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As things stand I'll remember him as a very good fighter and an average to poor champion that could have been great, but either didn't have the balls for it or was happy enough letting his promoter pad out his record and his bank balance. A shame because he really could have left a lasting impression on the sport.

I remember Warren managing Herbie Hide as WBO heavyweight champion- he got hide 2 fights against blown up crusers both of which took the fights at a weeks notice tops and then when faced with a mandatory defense against Klitcho fought tooth and nail in the courts to prevent it. Hide fell to bits from the first punch landed, as most people expected no wonder Waren didn't want him stepping in with a competant Heavyweight. And that sort of thing has been the way Warrens operated since the days of Nigel Benn hasn't it, generaly making out that some nobody fighting his WBO champion was a world beater.

Warrens making him and his man a few bob but if after 10 years of supposedly being the top Super Middleweight you're still unknown in the US then thats Warrens fault and JC's fault as well for going along with it.

He still doesn't want to fight out of his comfort zone, he wants to fight blown up middleweights, he's not stepped up to light heavy - how much does JC want to be regarded as a great? Not that much, not when he thinks he can get that recognitian on his own terms.

It's when old Warren starts on saying people don't understand boxing, no Frank, we just understand you only too well and can see right through you.

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Anybody catch Cotto vs Judah the other night? Another cracking fight and a possible candidate for FOTY - so far anyway. I'm not sure it was quite as entertaining as Miranda vs Pavlik but I definitely enjoyed it as much.

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He didn't get the credit he deserved. As usual they were going on about his holding and crediting Castillo as the better body puncher. As soon as he was counted out they were proclaiming him to be a shot fighter. If Hatton was American he'd be a massive star, possibly only eclipsed by De La Hoya. Unfortunately for him, being English means he'll never get the respect he deserves over there.

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Wow what a punch, now Joe Calzaghe should be hanging his head in shame watching that, Ricky Hatton is willing to go to the U.S. and get himself known taking on the best or near to it at his weight. Instead Joe fights in Cardiff or occasionally the MEN Arena...

If JC wants to go down in history (and the recognition) as not one of GB best but a world best he should have gone to america ages ago.

The US dont like seeing anyone outside of the Americas winning do they :lol:

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Wow what a punch, now Joe Calzaghe should be hanging his head in shame watching that, Ricky Hatton is willing to go to the U.S. and get himself known taking on the best or near to it at his weight. Instead Joe fights in Cardiff or occasionally the MEN Arena...

If JC wants to go down in history (and the recognition) as not one of GB best but a world best he should have gone to america ages ago.

The US dont like seeing anyone outside of the Americas winning do they :lol:

They seem to get behind Pacquaio and even the likes of Peters, the (quite accomplished but nothing special) German Middleweights and the Klitschko brothers. The problem seems to be with British fighters. British fighters that win, anyway.

Even Manny Steward got on my nerves last night. He was slagging of Hatton's style for the better part of four rounds, he then said he knew JLC was shot within 10 seconds of him stepping into the ring... "but Ricky did a good job, he deserves some credit". Fucking give it to him then! The sad thing is Manny was probably the most objective of HBO's pundits. Hatton obviously had a game plan going into the fight, in fact he always does. He executed the game plan well and finished Castillo brilliantly. There was very little between the two in terms of the initiation of clinches, although if you believed what the yanks are saying now you'd think Hatton won by bear-hug. Hatton is a pressure fighter, clinching goes hand in hand with pressure. Particularly when you're giving away a few inches in reach in practically every fight.

It's a real shame because it's clear that it'll take a miracle for him to get the respect he undoubtedly deserves. Before the Tszyu fight they all said he was a duck artist, he makes the fight with Tszyu and they say he has no chance, he then puts in a great performance and beats Tszyu and they say Tszyu was a shot quitter. They even go as far as to say that Tszyu was cheated, that Ricky's holding would have seen him disqualified in the US and the excuses have only got worse over time.

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I think he'll beat Mayweather and not by points. It'll be his defining moment.

Anyway, why was the great Barrera in Hattons corner on Sunday morning?

If the fight happens it'll be at Welterweight. Ricky has no business fighting at that weight and Mayweather will school him. At Light-welter I'd credit Hatton with a decent chance, but the 7lb gap doesn't seem to suit him at all. I really think he should have taken the fight when he was offered it after beating Tszyu. It would have been made at light-welter and Ricky would have had a real chance then.

De La Hoya's simply too big and can't get under the light-middle limit. Ricky shouldn't even consider it as he'll never be right at the weight.

Barrera was in Hatton's corner because they're mates. Barrera invited Ricky out to see him fight Rocky Juarez a while back and they've been mates since then. I'm told Goldenboy promotions are very interested in Ricky and they've made him guest of honor at a few shows since then.

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Mayweather wants to fight Hatton

Well that was a short lived retirement! :(

RH will have to train his proverbials off if he is to beat Mayweather, as much as he's a big mouth, he got the skills to back it up....

I will be amazed if this fight comes off. Mayweather is a notorious negotiator and Hatton will be out of his depth if he takes the fight on at Welterweight. He'd be better off unifying at Light-welter and letting Floyd get on with his inevitable rematch with Oscar.

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It's a real shame because it's clear that it'll take a miracle for him to get the respect he undoubtedly deserves. Before the Tszyu fight they all said he was a duck artist, he makes the fight with Tszyu and they say he has no chance, he then puts in a great performance and beats Tszyu and they say Tszyu was a shot quitter. They even go as far as to say that Tszyu was cheated, that Ricky's holding would have seen him disqualified in the US and the excuses have only got worse over time.

I've only watched the knockout round on YouTube, but the US commentators were astonishing. I think the thing about Hatton is that he punches so hard, and he punches so hard to the body, that he can makes boxers look worn out. The fact that he made those two guys just quit is because their bodies took such a beating. But it's weird that boxing experts aren't capable of understanding that. I also think he'd give Mayweather a schooling if it went ahead at the right weight.

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I've only watched the knockout round on YouTube, but the US commentators were astonishing. I think the thing about Hatton is that he punches so hard, and he punches so hard to the body, that he can makes boxers look worn out. The fact that he made those two guys just quit is because their bodies took such a beating. But it's weird that boxing experts aren't capable of understanding that. I also think he'd give Mayweather a schooling if it went ahead at the right weight.

I really can't agree with you there. Mayweather is on a different planet talent wise. I think Ricky would be in with a shout - at Light-welter - otherwise, he should just stay away from Mayweather. He looked terrible at Welter against Collazo, nothing carried for him. As I said, he should stay at Light-welter and clean up.

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Willie Limond is a decent fighter actually and would have represented a real test to Khan on the form of his performances before his meeting with Arthur, which is his only loss by the way. He's trained by Peter Harrison (Scott Harrison's dad) and I'll be surprised to see him banged out in two. Saying that, he is another blown up Super-Feather rather than a true Lightweight, something Khan's match makers need to address before he can be taken seriously at the weight.

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Told ye's. :(

I'm sick of the Khan hype. The kid's got talent, no doubt about that but Warren is up to his usual tricks with his match making and he'll be 40-0 before he gets in with anybody world class. The sad thing is he is hyped beyond belief and he's not even our best prospect in and around the weight. Kevin Mitchell would have him out inside 6 if they fought now but Warren's been completely shameful in recognising Khan as the bigger draw with more appeal to the boxing casuals and has put Mitchell's career on the back burner as a result. Mitchell's people should do their best to get him as far away from Warren as possible, otherwise he's likely to waste his talent fighting bums and be totally unprepared and undeveloped when it matters.

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