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Guys I missed the majority of the 'Super Six Classic' fights with Froch, Abraham et al. Would anyone be so kind as to cherry pick the best fights for me so I can download them. I just saw the Kessler/Froch fight which was good fun I'd like to see some more. Much appreciated.

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Floyd Mayweather vs Victor Ortiz in September is heavily rumored right now. Ortiz has said contracts could be signed in the next few days. Its not Floyd-Pac but it will do for now.

Its probably better than the actual fight will be, the Hopkins-Pascal Face Off is well worth a watch.

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Max - You may as well get all of the Froch fights, Abraham vs Dirrell was pretty good with a funny ending, Abraham vs Taylor was also pretty good if I remember. My memory is a bit fuzzy though, can't really remember much about them other than how they finished.

Think we are going to have to come to terms with Pacman not fighting Mayweather. Would love to be wrong but this shit has been dragging on for years now.

I see that Bradley has not agreed terms with Amir Khan, so that's another potentially great fight we are going to miss out on.

That Hopkins video was awesome. Really got me pumped for that fight.

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Just seen that the next Froch fight is going to be live on Sky Sports. About f'ing time he got a bit more exposure and recognition. He should be a household name like Khan and Haye. He's achieved more than the two of them together.

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I don't think he's achieved more than Haye (unified cruiser champ & becoming heavy champ) let alone Haye and Khan together. He's fought better comp though and is always exiting to watch so should be more well known than he is, but then that why he's switched from Hennessy's promotions over to Barry Hearns.

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Froch is amazing though. He is one of the most exciting fighters in the world today, his fights against Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor were breathtaking. He definitely should have a higher profile than he currently does and I think the only thing that was holding him back was his promoter because his performances in the ring are as good as anybody.

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I don't think he's achieved more than Haye (unified cruiser champ & becoming heavy champ) let alone Haye and Khan together. He's fought better comp though and is always exiting to watch so should be more well known than he is, but then that why he's switched from Hennessy's promotions over to Barry Hearns.

I think the names he has on his resume far outweigh anything on both Khan's and Haye's.

Anyway, who else is staying up to watch the Mosley vs Pacquiao fight? Pavliks making his comeback fight on the undercard against an unbeaten latino.

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Watched the Zab Judah fight re-run last night on Eurosport. He wasn't looking that good 'til he threw a beautiful punch; I have no idea how the South African stayed on his feet. He was completely fucked, haven't seen breakdancing like that in the ring for a while.

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There is a noticeable difference in David's demeanour in the build up to this fight. He doesn't seem his usual composed self, at all. I can't help but wonder if the magnitude of the task/event is getting to him. People have said he's looked intimidated so far but I don't think that's it; I'd say he looks more wound up than anything. Hatton had a habit of letting the occasion get to him in the really big fights - hopefully Haye won't follow suit here.

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There is a noticeable difference in David's demeanour in the build up to this fight. He doesn't seem his usual composed self, at all. I can't help but wonder if the magnitude of the task/event is getting to him. People have said he's looked intimidated so far but I don't think that's it; I'd say he looks more wound up than anything. Hatton had a habit of letting the occasion get to him in the really big fights - hopefully Haye won't follow suit here.

I think it's exactly the opposite. I used to work for a guy who read a lot of self-help manuals and management books, and he used to employ various disruptive behaviours - that he had no doubt learned from these manuals - to get his own way. One example would be that he would make completely unreasonable demands, occasionally acting very upset, or angry, or whatever when he'd make them. Most of the time people are pretty reasonable, and they'd respond to these unreasonable demands by meeting him halfway in a bid to calm him down; they'd end up compromising their behaviour just so this guy could get his own way. It's like the guy who goes in for an arm wrestle who plonks his elbow down so that his opponent has to stretch across to reach.

I think Haye's doing the same thing. He's just trying to be disruptive, trying to upset Klitschko's preparations, trying to get more money out of the ring than he's worth and trying to get Klitschko to fight on Haye's terms inside it (for example, by calling his use of the jab 'boring').

I also think it's pretty pathetic. I wish he'd just shut up and do his fighting in the ring, and I hope Klitschko bores him into submission. (Though in reality I am seriously worried that Haye will win.)

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Haye is not really doing himself any favors with his trash talk. Wlad is far too experienced and smart to fall for it and its just losing Haye supporters.

I am not the biggest fan of either of them but I am starting to lean towards the comedy value of Wlad just knocking Haye all over the place with his "pathetic" jab for 8-10 rounds before ko'ing him.

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I love a bit of trash talking and arrogance from a boxer. Loved the arrogance of Prince Nazeem, Chris Eubank, Floyd Mayweather, seeing the old videos of Ali. However, they all backed it up with their skills and resume of past wins. They are also pretty funny with their trash talk, Haye just sounds like a little school boy lashing out. Haye is just acting like he is a great when he hasn't really done anything special in boxing. Maybe it's just the state of the cruiserweight and heavyweight division not having big names to go out and beat.

If he beats Wlad then I will respect him. Wlad just seems like a intelligent genuine good guy. Haye is just an arsehole.

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I think Haye has as many good names on his record as Naz did. Mormeck was a great win, Haye seems to have ended Enzo Maccaranelli as a world class fighter following their meeting. Valuev was quite an achievement and the KO win over the granite chinned John Ruiz was very good too. Everything was set up for Haye after the Ruiz fight, if he had made a Kiltschko fight after that I think his legacy would be very different now. It's the "fight" against Fraudley that seems to be the problem for most people (myself included I might add.)

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There are plenty of boxers for who the fight starts weeks (if not months) before the first round bell. Ali was the master at it, Mayweather has it down to a science too. Haye is just following a long tradition, isnt he?

Yeah, fair enough. I just think he's doing a bad job of it, acting like an idiot child.

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Haye is not really doing himself any favors with his trash talk.

Especially when most of that trash talk is criticism of wlads game that could be just as easily levelled against haye (fighting lesser opponents, ducking fights, being boring, etc)

I cant stand Haye, he mouths off like hes a modern day Ali, only without any of alis charm, wit, or intelligence. I dont think ive ever seen him in an exciting fight. Klitchko may not be much better, but i know who ill be rooting for.

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