scottcr Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hacked mine and got Plok! and some other crackers on there - it's almost as though Nintendo knew it was going to be hacked and didn't bother putting anything in to prevent it being anything other than a piece of piss. Me and a pal played Pilotwings together for a while last night. Brilliant stuff. I don't need a SNES virtual console anymore, I've got near as dammit the real thing in this wee box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, scottcr said: Hacked mine and got Plok! and some other crackers on there - it's almost as though Nintendo knew it was going to be hacked and didn't bother putting anything in to prevent it being anything other than a piece of piss. Me and a pal played Pilotwings together for a while last night. Brilliant stuff. I don't need a SNES virtual console anymore, I've got near as dammit the real thing in this wee box. I'm sure you won't mind sending @JPickford proof you own the original Plok cartridge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorfarius Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Or just send him £40 via paypal. Only fair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Lorfarius said: Or just send him £40 via paypal. Only fair. £40 in 1993 is £75 now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 scottcr bought all the Plok comics so he's in the clear. I can't remember what our royalty was on Plok but it wasn't a lot. Maybe 30c. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, JPickford said: scottcr bought all the Plok comics so he's in the clear. DAMN IT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, JPickford said: I can't remember what our royalty was on Plok but it wasn't a lot. Maybe 30c. Was there ever a sense back then that £40 was a lot of money/too much money for a game? Seems quite appropriate that the price of the SNES Mini is around the price (adjusted) of a game back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I've always thought it was too much. But carts were expensive to make so that was some justification. We often had to fight for bigger ROM size or battery-backed-RAM (We lost that battle on Plok). We definitely tried to put a lot in the games so you got your money's worth and didn't see everything in one afternoon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, JPickford said: I've always thought it was too much. But carts were expensive to make so that was some justification. We often had to fight for bigger ROM size or battery-backed-RAM (We lost that battle on Plok). We definitely tried to put a lot in the games so you got your money's worth and didn't see everything in one afternoon. Oh yeah I know publisher didn't have a choice but it's interesting to hear a developer concerned about the prices. Back then it was my my parents' money not mine at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Cart prices were a huge problem for publishers too. I heard of publishers saying they couldn't afford to have a hit. So much money tied up for months at a time in manufacture & shipping. You can see why the industry embraced optical disks so quickly. As well as the money, it took a long time to manufacture & ship games from Japan so if a game sold out there was no chance of printing more to satisfy demand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda_t Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 If anyone's going to play Cybernator/Assault Suits Valken, it's really important you get the weapon powerups on every level. Found it really hard before I realised that first time round. It's great once you get the insanely powered-up laser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevvy Metal Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 My copy of Street Fighter 2 Turbo that I bought new in 1994 was more like £60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Grossman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, Kevvy Metal said: My copy of Street Fighter 2 Turbo that I bought new in 1994 was more like £60. Oh sure but they were generally around £40. In fact I got the original SFII for £45 on import when it was brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPickford Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I think Street Fighter was a huge ROM at the time which partially explained the price. Also they could have charged almost anything for it at the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 hours ago, the_debaser said: Got no idea how GnG passed any sort of quality control, regarding an appropriate difficulty level. people on youtube one-life it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qazimod Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 To be fair, people on YouTube do one-handed Street Fighter combos and play Dark Souls with bongos. They can't be tamed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Qazimod said: To be fair, people on YouTube do one-handed Street Fighter combos and play Dark Souls with bongos. They can't be tamed. before the internet, we had no way of knowing just how inferior we are to other mortals. i cannot even imagine finishing DS, nevermind using bongos. i console myself by mumbling aout some people having too much time but that is clearly sour grapes :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riven Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 41 minutes ago, JPickford said: I think Street Fighter was a huge ROM at the time which partially explained the price. Also they could have charged almost anything for it at the time. They did for Super Street Fighter II as the RRP was £100 on release, price soon came crashing down as I recall. Having had a play with a SNES Mini I'm not that keen on the quality of the emulator, the anti-flicker feature also drives me up the wall, but I understand why it's included. The main event has to be Star Fox 2 which, is a really interesting titles in all it's aspects, certainly a game that keeps you playing to unlock all the secrets hidden in the game, has anyone managed to get all the General Pepper Coins yet? Did a playthrough video myself on Normal, quite a few changes from the BETA that got leaked, game is also a bit harder and I felt a touch smoother, but that might just be me. Award screen at the end is different and the weapon load outs have changed on some of the ships. Would love to see an official SNES cartridge release of this, but I highly doubt that will happen so will go down the repro route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocol Penguin Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, Riven said: They did for Super Street Fighter II as the RRP was £100 on release, price soon came crashing down as I recall. Super SFII? That would've been an import copy (or "grey import" as the term often was then). The PAL version was a very late release, IIRC sometime in 1995, and only exclusive to EB or Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulala Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Street fighter 2 was £65 in comet on release day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_debaser Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, jaromil said: people on youtube one-life it Well that’s just sent me down a YouTube wormhole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulsemyne Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, JPickford said: I think Street Fighter was a huge ROM at the time which partially explained the price. Also they could have charged almost anything for it at the time. First 16 meg cart for the snes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulsemyne Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Riven said: They did for Super Street Fighter II as the RRP was £100 on release, price soon came crashing down as I recall. Having had a play with a SNES Mini I'm not that keen on the quality of the emulator, the anti-flicker feature also drives me up the wall, but I understand why it's included. The main event has to be Star Fox 2 which, is a really interesting titles in all it's aspects, certainly a game that keeps you playing to unlock all the secrets hidden in the game, has anyone managed to get all the General Pepper Coins yet? Did a playthrough video myself on Normal, quite a few changes from the BETA that got leaked, game is also a bit harder and I felt a touch smoother, but that might just be me. Award screen at the end is different and the weapon load outs have changed on some of the ships. Would love to see an official SNES cartridge release of this, but I highly doubt that will happen so will go down the repro route. Do not play it on normal as it butchers the game. Hard and expert are the real Starfox 2 and it's much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino_jr Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 To give you an idea how far tech has moved, friend just sent me Turtles in Time ROM... In an iMessage. The games are smaller than some photos on this iPhone. Unbelievable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulala Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, dino_jr said: To give you an idea how far tech has moved, friend just sent me Turtles in Time ROM... In an iMessage. The games are smaller than some photos on this iPhone. Unbelievable. Check out elite on the spectrum. This message is probably larger than the 48k it fit the universe into. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryodi Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I managed to get Retroarch working by dragging the zipped download into Hackchi instead of the unzipped folders and Terranigma is now working. I've also got the Final Fantasy GBA games on there which run but the sounds are not playing correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layten Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 56 minutes ago, dino_jr said: To give you an idea how far tech has moved, friend just sent me Turtles in Time ROM... In an iMessage. The games are smaller than some photos on this iPhone. Unbelievable. Super Mario World is 512KB, half a megabyte for the greatest 2D game of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Sainsbury's In Fallowfield, Manchester had these in stock this morning if anybody local still wants one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryodi Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, ryodi said: I managed to get Retroarch working by dragging the zipped download into Hackchi instead of the unzipped folders and Terranigma is now working. I've also got the Final Fantasy GBA games on there which run but the sounds are not playing correctly. Nevermind, updated to Retroarch v1.0 and the sound issues have been fixed. Added the GBA games FF IV-VI, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, Tactics Ogre and Tales of Phantasia and I done adding games to the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Can this hacking business be done on a Mac? I don't have a windows machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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