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BONUS ROUND 3

 

 

 

Horizon: Zero Dawn

 

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Original format: PS4. Released: 2017

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: N/A, number of votes: 6.)

 

Onto yet another game with horizon in the title. This actually very nearly made it into the top 100 but was eventually crowded out by older classics. It’s a shame as it could have been an excuse for me to finally play it, but as it is I’ve put it on the back burner for now…



 

 

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

 

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Original format: PS3/X360/PC. Released: 2009

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: N/A, number of votes: 6.)

 

I’m secretly pleased this didn’t make the list as it marked, perhaps more so than Call of Duty 4, the start of the interminable COD clone era. Bleurgh. Probably the only game I’m going to be negative about.

 

Down by Law likes it though: “The best multiplayer of all time. Pure crack. 29 days game time clocked up and I don't regret any of it. I'm really please that both Titanfall games are excellent, proving that Activision slayed the golden goose when they lost west/zampella. No CoD has gripped me in the same way since, and it's obsession with disgusting camos and loot boxes has been a real shame to see.”

 

 


 

Pac Man CE

 

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Original format: X360. Released: 2007

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: N/A, number of votes: 6.)

 

This kept cropping up in so many initial lists I was sure it was going to be a new surprise entry. Not played it myself but it looks excellent.




 

Jet Set Radio

 

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Original format: Dreamcast. Released: 2000

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: N/A, number of votes: 6.)

 

Philistines! One of the best games ever made only just  doesn't make it a second time despite getting far more votes :(

 

I wrote a little bit about it in 2015: “I never really got on with skating games much, but the visual style of this made me take a chance on it. It's not really fair to call it a skating game as it's more of a skate-across-Tokyo-and-spray-grafitti-and-get-chased-by-the-police-em-up. The soundtrack is also suitably bonkers and will have you humming the tunes for literally years afterwards. I will also mention that Jet Set Radio Future was also very good, if not quite as good as the original in my opinion.”

 



 

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

 

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Original format: Xbox. Released: 2003

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: 69 (f’nar), number of votes: 6.)

 

This was placed 111 on the list so only just didn’t make the runners up. Here’s what I said in 2015:

 

“The greatest Star Wars game ever made? Possibly. I'm still quite upset that Tie Fighter never made it to the list, as that still stands as the best Star Wars game on any format for me, for sheer consistency of vision and adherence to the source material, but Knights of the Old Republic is very very very damn close.

 

Taking players back to a time period in the Star Wars universe hundreds of years before even the hideous prequel film trilogy was set, this allows Bioware to weave a solid and captivating tale of intrigue with brilliantly written characters and marvellous scope for choosing exactly how virtuous or downright diabolical you wish to be. (There is a particular Dark side quest line choice involving one of the kindest characters in the game that is absolutely delicious, but I won't spoil it because if you've not played it yet and have literally any interest in Star Wars or RPGs you should probably drop everything you are doing right now and start playing it you crazy fool.)

 

There is maybe in some ways a sense that Bioware were trying to repeat their success with this in the Mass Effect series, and yet, this still stands as their greatest achievement.”

 

I’m still bitter about Tie Fighter… Though more people actually voted for it this year!

 

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4 hours ago, Benny said:

A question for those that know: is the remastered version of Halo in the Master Chief Collection actually the definitive version, or does the argument it doesn't quite feel the same hold weight? I've not actually played the remaster myself but remember reading a few rumblings about it so mentioned it in the writeup.

 

Earlier this year, Digital Foundry Retro did a video comparing the different versions. His final ranking in terms of performance:

 

1. Master Chief Collection - Xbox One

2. Original Xbox version

3. PC port

4. Original played on Xbox 360 via backwards compatibility

5. Anniversary on Xbox 360

 

(Omitted: Mac port, PAL version in 50Hz, PAL version in 60Hz, PAL version via Xbox 360 backwards compatibility...)

 

 

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The thing about forza games is that, once you’re off the first in a new generation (which for both the 360 and Bone versions were a bit light), you may as well just play the latest Horizon and the latest Motorsport, whichever they may be. There will be more content (cars, tracks).

 

The earlier ones don’t age as well, so you shouldn’t really be putting them on your Play Today list.

 

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16 hours ago, nakamura said:

Dodge and run are on the same button. To run you hold, to dodge you have to press and release. I don't think this is a very fluid choice. 

 

I haven't played Bloodborne, but the Batman Arkham games also had run and dodge on the same button. It worked, but it felt like the developers made that decision because they were running out of buttons, rather than because they're two commands that naturally fit together.

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4 minutes ago, footle said:

The thing about forza games is that, once you’re off the first in a new generation (which for both the 360 and Bone versions were a bit light), you may as well just play the latest Horizon and the latest Motorsport, whichever they may be. There will be more content (cars, tracks).

 

The earlier ones don’t age as well, so you shouldn’t really be putting them on your Play Today list.

 

I much prefer the first Horizon. I don't like the lack of focus on the later games, it feels too scattered. I prefer the on road racing and tighter event design. 

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11 minutes ago, nakamura said:

I loooooove Jet Set Radio but it's fucking terrible nowadays. It has not aged well. The camera and controls are murder. I still play it though.

 

I played a bit of it on DC - I even picked up the Vita release - but I rarely get on with timed missions in open-world games, and even though JSR's "open world" is quite small I still struggled to like the format. Failing something by seconds because you found all of the tag spots but didn't use the optimal route between them was crap, and the camera didn't help.

 

I still prefer Future more (it was in the also-rans of my vote) but even that has camera problems and a few dodgy missions. :P 

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3. Super Mario World

 

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Original format: SNES. Released: 1990

(2015 Rllmuk top 100 position: 4, number of votes: 43. Voted best game of all time by: retoed, Creamstick, sith, Jazz Glands, suzzopher, )

 

Surprise time! And the greatest Mario platformer is now… Super Mario World! Collecting the third most votes of any game on the list, Mario World is an absolute timeless classic that will still be remembered and just as playable ten years from now. Odyssey may turn out to be one of the finest games ever created, but it will always owe a huge debt to this slice of unbelievably clever joy. I was late to the game but loved it like everyone else:

 

“I never played Super Mario World until quite late, as I was a Megadrive kid back in the day. But owing to the wonders of the Gameboy Advance, this tragedy was soon put right…

 

If Super Mario Bros 3 hinted at the potential Shigeru Miyamoto had to be one of the single greatest designers in the history of the gaming medium, Super Mario World is the game to alleviate all doubts.

 

There are many games which could be described as clever, genius even, but Super Mario World has so many levels of pure fun, frustration, curiosity and delight that it’s almost absurd.

 

There is just something utterly magical about the way every level is so different and yet perfect a creation and yet fits in so brilliantly among all the others, with ideas and little touches overlapping throughout in new and interesting ways.

 

The design of the characters has not aged one bit, and there is a subtle humour in every single sprite and interaction throughout that even Nintendo themselves have yet to match.

 

The joy of discovery is one of the most powerful feelings that videogames can evoke, above all others, and Super Mario World is one of the finest examples in games of this one concept being at the forefront of its design ethos, if not perhaps the finest.

 

The greatest 2D platformer ever made.”

 

Feel the luuurve:

 

Jolly: “Super Mario World's map, with it's cheerful, a-tweedle-dee-dee music, has an entire lobe of my brain dedicated to it. Give me a pen and paper and a piece of A3 and I'll draw it for you. With my eyes closed. Every route, every area, every path, every secret is all up there; like the lyrics to a favourite song. But delve into the ingenious vision of that map and you have a game that never dips below a stupidly high bar of fantastic entertainment and pieces of design so ingenuous that surely a bolt of lighting striking a tree 'pon a mountain top heralded their arrival. What about that bit when you have to find a way under the finishing line to find the secret exit? What about when you find out that the secret world has a secret world hidden in it? What about THE FUCKING CAPE, man? With so many fantastic touches that were a joy to discover, I'm almost hoping I develop some a memory disorder in my old age so I can go back again for the first time. But something makes me think that even if I forget my own name, Mario World will still be up there. Any one of us than ran home from school just to get a few minutes more on it before dinner will know what I'm talking about. Just think about it; I bet you can remember every jump, every pixel, every sound effect. "Reeer-ur-ur-ur-eere' (Castle door opening). "KLOPP!" (jumping on a Chargin Chuck's head). And here's the biggy. "Der der der-der, der der-der der der. Ah der-der der der der a diddly-derrrrrrrrrrrrrr...DER! Baaaaaaaaooooooun-wown!" (Finishing a level). For us of a certain generation, Super Mario World is a cultural touchstone. A fucking moon landing. That it's still utterly peerless as a platformer after all these years is little short of a miracle.”

 

strider: “I'm not really a big fan of platform games but the execution of Super Mario World is pretty much unrivalled. Everything about it works brilliantly and it's jam-packed with fresh, clever ideas.”

 

Danster: “Sublime and still the best 2D Mario, do i really need to say more?”

 

Mr. Gerbik: “ Do I really need to explain? The best Mario. Ever. The go-to game whenever I install an emulator on a new device. The go-to game when you want to play some retro goodness. The go-to game when you need to judge the quality of any other 2D platformer.”

 

sith: “If you ask me in 20 years, I'll still say SMW. It made me fall in love with games as a 5 year old and it really is the perfect game. Amazing controls, ageless graphics, a stunning soundtrack and more charm than you'll ever find in a Dark souls, a Metal Gear or an Uncharted game. Nintendo still haven't bettered and I'm not sure they ever will.”

 

nakamura: “Objectively the best video game ever made. It's perfect.”

 

Jazz Glands: “Simply the most brilliantly designed videogame of all time. A masterpiece.”

 

Qazimod: “As I grew up with a Mega Drive, I was a little late playing Super Mario World. However, it took even longer for me to get around to Star Road and the Special World, which still feel like the best reward in what was already a glorious platform game (granted, I did this on the GBA game, but at least I wasn't emulating :P )”

 

bradigor: “I still go back to this whenever I can, whether that be on the GBA re-release or via emulators on the PSP or not the Raspberry Pi. It is still the perfect platformer for me and has yet to be surpassed by anything modern.”

 

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You see, back on Christmas '92 I was seriously upset that my mum went and got me the Super Scope 6 pack instead of the SMW standard with two controllers. At that point I learned how to put a fake smile on my face when it was necessary in order not to upset or offend others.

Seeing SMW in the #3 spot today makes me feel slightly better at being a little bit of an entitled prick back on that fateful day. At least I still ended up with F-Zero, so there was some salvage at least. But... nngggghh!!! That could have been the best Christmas ever!!!

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I love SMW but didn’t play it until a few years later, I had a master system and wanted a Megadrive and even when we went into John Lewis to find no stock and the assistant telling me “we have the new Super Nintendo out with a Mario game” I waited for the Megadrive with a “you wot m8, super who” :facepalm:

 

When I did get a Snes a while later due to peer pressure and played SMW it pretty much opens an entire genre to me, it was so much better than any platform game I have ever played and incredibly that almost holds true to this day :wub:

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Oh SMW. I thought you were alluding to Odyssey maybe becoming the greatest Mario game earlier. I wish I could click with a lot of the sprite based stuff from back in the day but I jumped from being mildly interested in my VCS to full blown Video-game obsessive due to the arrival of the PS1 and 3D games. I used to play the odd bit of Sonic on the MD at a house we'd go back to after a chemical night out. Perhaps I should give Mania a punt when I get my Switch.

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Oh SMW. I thought you were alluding to Odyssey maybe becoming the greatest Mario game earlier. I wish I could click with a lot of the sprite based stuff from back in the day but I jumped from being mildly interested in my VCS to full blown Video-game obsessive due to the arrival of the PS1 and 3D games. I used to play the odd bit of Sonic on the MD at a house we'd go back to after a chemical night out. Perhaps I should give Mania a punt when I get my Switch.

 

But you have played SMW, right?

 

I’ve never completed it, and it doesn’t thrill me in the way that Galaxy did (or disappoint me in the way Sunshine did), but it’s still the greatest 2d platformer.

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I'd certainly rate World above Sonic 1, but I don't think the gameplay between the series is comparable overall. It's like saying Simpsons vs South Park. Both are amazing for different reasons, despite both being animated shows. Just a matter of taste at that point.

 

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Sonic 1 MS beats World for me however, but that's mainly due to being the first game I played!

 

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I remember arguing with all the cool kids at school in regards to SMW being better than Sonic. Similarly with SF2 vs. MK.

 

FWIW I'd rate World over anything Sonic related. I'd rate SMB3 over anything Sonic related - even the almighty Mania.

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Just now, Benny said:

Have you played Dark Souls though? It makes other games obsolete.

 

I've played it, thanks to the GWG offer, but I barely got anywhere. I know that I'm the problem - it's the 8th greatest game of our time, after all - it's just that I rarely feel inspired to persevere.

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2 minutes ago, footle said:

 

But you have played SMW, right?

 

I’ve never completed it, and it doesn’t thrill me in the way that Galaxy did (or disappoint me in the way Sunshine did), but it’s still the greatest 2d platformer.

I'll have done the first level via emulation or something over the years but I really believe you had to be a player of sprite based games on or around that era to properly appreciate them. I mean I'll trial and error for hours with a tough 3D game but after dying several times in sprite based games I just think fuck it, I'm not good enough and power them off. Makes me a bit sad that my favourite pass time has so many obviously brilliant games that mean so much to people that just don't click with me. Maybe they're too hard for someone like me who basically skipped that whole era (bar combat and pac man on VCS).

 

I keep trying though, just bought some of the mid 90s platform games,  Metal Slug complete, Mega Man collection, CV SOTN etc.

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