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On 30/12/2017 at 18:05, Tezcatlipoca said:

Just had a look for the 4K Nolan films on Amazon UK, and the only ones that seem to be available are The Prestige and Dunkirk :unsure:

 

What happened to The Dark Knight Trilogy, Inception, and Interstellar?

Dark Knight trilogy is on Amazon but only under standard Blu-ray for some reason. Also looks like it's sold out as it's only available via other sellers for far more than the likes of HMV.

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13 hours ago, Captain LeChuck said:

The Interstellar UHD is also excellent. They've really made use of the wider colour gamut. In the normal BD, the scene on the water planet is almost entirely gray, there's a lot more colour in this version, especially the sky.

 

Was this extra colour visible at the cinema and just missing in the Blu-ray or are films being modified for their release on UHD to take advantage of HDR do you know? 

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Cinema screens use DCI/P3, which is wider than Rec709 and for the vast majority of films will be what the original master was graded in. Normally you’d do something called a ‘trim pass’ in the grade (literally clamping down the colour gamut and adjusting each shot as necessary) to create the Rec709 tv/streaming/disc versions from that. 

 

The workflow for UHD has muddied the waters somewhat though, there’s really only a handful of films have been mastered to that standard to date so for everything else they’re basically doing the same thing again in the opposite direction to take into account the extra range of HDR. So for older physical films they’re being rescanned and remastered completely, for newer digital ones they’re going back and doing the opposite of a trim pass.

 

It’s all a bit vague though, I have heard at least one story about UHD version of a (very big and well known) film that wasn’t done by the original colourist and they didn’t know who actually did it.

 

For the record, there’s not a screen in the world that can actually display the full Rec2020 gamut (yet). It’s basically a future-proofed theoretical format that gives filmmakers and manufacturers somewhere to manouver in the future, and avoid going through all this messiness again. When you’re buying a screen it’s the percentage of DCI/P3 that you want to keep an eye on, for most OLED’s that’s around 98%, so basically the same colour range as you’d see in the cinema.

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On 30/12/2017 at 18:01, John Edward Gammell said:

Lego Ninjago Movie popped through the door today, thanks to Amazon Canada. Worked out roughly the same price as the UK disc, which isn't out until mid-Feb. 

 

Also expecting the Hong Kong release of Blade Runner 2049, as it's out next Wednesday and I drunkenly ordered it on Xmas Day. 

 

Where did you order Blade Runner from? I wouldnt mind getting that early.

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On 06/01/2018 at 16:11, kempstar said:

Where did you order Blade Runner from? I wouldnt mind getting that early.

 

Also, how did you order from Amazon Canada? It wont let me ship to the UK. Unless you are in Canada?

Blade Runner 2049 was from DDDHouse, but they're now out of stock. Showed up yesterday:

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As for Amazon Canada, they do ship to the UK. Just make sure it's Amazon themselves fulfilling the order, and not a 3rd party seller.

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On 1/7/2018 at 23:31, John Edward Gammell said:

Blade Runner 2049 was from DDDHouse, but they're now out of stock. Showed up yesterday:

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As for Amazon Canada, they do ship to the UK. Just make sure it's Amazon themselves fulfilling the order, and not a 3rd party seller.

 

So how is it?

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None of the discs in The Dark Knight trilogy would read in my player.

 

On closer examination of the discs they were all wobbly around the edge, like the glue between layers had squeezed out a tiny bit and hardened.

 

Filed the edges down until each disc would read and play, took a fair few attempts but they all now work.

 

I've watched Batman Begins and forgetting the awesomeness of the film, the picture quality is a bit pants for UHD. Had read about the first film being a bit soft so was kinda expecting it a little but was disappointed.

 

Next was The Dark Knight. Again, fantastic film but the only great looking clips worthy of 4K goodness were the IMAX scenes. They were crisp and clear with amazing HDR, the rest was pretty poor.

 

Will watch TDKR tomorrow, hoping the improving trend with each one continues and the last movie is great looking.

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6 hours ago, Minion said:

 

So how is it?

Gorgeous transfer. The 1080p version looks horribly choked, in comparison. 

 

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Next was The Dark Knight. Again, fantastic film but the only great looking clips worthy of 4K goodness were the IMAX scenes. They were crisp and clear with amazing HDR, the rest was pretty poor.

The UHD is a revelation, compared to that shit blu-ray version that we'd been stuck with for years. 

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The Dark Knight Rises was inferior in picture quality than TDK. The IMAX scenes had clipped whites and some dark scenes were grey instead of dark.

 

Still a great trilogy though spoilt with poor visuals. Shame.

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Tempted to get BR 2049 as my first uhd - don’t have a 4K tv so know I won’t see masses of improvement but kinda future proofing :) But also would be playing it on my Xbone - heard there were some issues with uhd playback on it, does anyone know if they are sorted yet?

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32 minutes ago, luth714 said:

Tempted to get BR 2049 as my first uhd - don’t have a 4K tv so know I won’t see masses of improvement but kinda future proofing :) But also would be playing it on my Xbone - heard there were some issues with uhd playback on it, does anyone know if they are sorted yet?

 

I use it all the time, it's my only UHD player. No issues at all.

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My issue with purchasing discs is the cost. I wanted to get IT as my daughter loved the movie but at £24.99 it can wait. Even the older back catalogue titles like Inception are £19.99. 

 

Although I have the Blade Runner 2049 whiskey glass pack on pre-order but hey...it's Blade Runner.

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Yeah, you'd have thought they would have just started adding 4K discs to Blu Rays since Blu Rays still command a premium price.  It is silly that we now have three levels of distinction for essentially the same product, the DVD, the Blu Ray and now the 4K.  With the mass market still buying DVDs, they have split the specialist market down the middle and it is just another SKU to keep track of.  

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On 22/01/2018 at 13:38, McCoy said:

Yeah, you'd have thought they would have just started adding 4K discs to Blu Rays since Blu Rays still command a premium price.  It is silly that we now have three levels of distinction for essentially the same product, the DVD, the Blu Ray and now the 4K.  With the mass market still buying DVDs, they have split the specialist market down the middle and it is just another SKU to keep track of.  

 

There is no point buying anything but the 4k version. It makes Blu-ray look very average.

 

War of the planet of the apes. Jesus that is a technical masterpiece of a movie and a fantastic transfer.

 

 

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