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17 minutes ago, Popo said:

Am I supposed to have a better dodge somehow? I recall someone up-thread saying you need to keep your load weight to under 50% - is there an additional bonus for keeping it under 25%, for example, that unlocks a more nimble kind of dodge that I’m hitherto missing?

 

Yes there is! Though for Ornstein and Smough the 25-50% range should be OK; that should let you equip a good shield and armour with good lightning defence.

 

 

There are actually even more rolling speeds below 25%, but the differences are so minor that you'd never see them without counting frames in side-by-side comparisons:

 

 

 

 

Do you have any items that will raise how much equipment you can carry? There are some things in the game that can can help you wear slightly better armour without going up into the fat rolling tier.

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I tried O&S a few times last night and got mashed into the walls, floor and ceiling in fairly short order. Decided quite quickly that life is too short and summoned a couple of sunbros for jolly co-op.  Even with three of us it was a bit of a battle!  I have no fucking idea how people solo them.  Good luck @Popo!

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54 minutes ago, Popo said:

I don’t know, I’m struggling here. Can they be stun-locked? I’m focusing on the little guy, but it seems the fatty is actually weaker? I’m sure I landed a lucky hit that struck both of them and the damage done to Smough was higher. And his attack, where he charges forward and swipes the hammer up and left is very, very, very hard to dodge!

Locking on the small one and getting distance between you and them is useful. The small one will catch up quicker, giving you a moment (just a moment) where he's isolated.

I think the big tip on this battle though is always

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use the pillars for cover. Even when they're broken, they still do the job. Don't get caught in the open, make sure there's a pillar between you and them as much as possible.

 

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I’ve decided to “play” this vicariously through @Popo :P. Love this thread and peoples’ journeys through the game but I can’t join in 

 

After a few evenings sort of enjoying it but feeling like I was chipping away at Stonehenge with a teaspoon, came to the realisation I just found it exhausting rather than fun. I can totally see why people love it but the minute to minute gameplay just leaves me cold. 

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Thanks for the tips everyone! I don’t see a friendly summon in the big room before the boss though - come to think of it I don’t know what these look like as I don’t think I’ve encountered them before!

 

The big knights in that room are horrible! They heal a lot when their health is low, I tried fighting one for about 10 minutes and got nowhere. Maybe I haven’t found the summon because they keep scaring me off. 
 

Ive got a set of shadow clothes, which makes me look a bit like a ninja, and I can see a noticeable uptick in rolling speed. I’ll give this a try. 

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Ok, my speed build has saw me through to bringing Ornstein down to half health, which is already a big improvement!

 

Trying to resist the urge to get greedy by only hitting twice each turn, but using double-handed so it’s still dealing decent damage.

 

Theoretically speaking, you don’t need a shield if the enemy can’t hit you!

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24 minutes ago, Popo said:

Ok, my speed build has saw me through to bringing Ornstein down to half health, which is already a big improvement!


Keep at it. Beating O&S solo on Switch was one of the most difficult yet most satisfying moments in gaming for me. You can do it!

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48 minutes ago, Popo said:

Ok, my speed build has saw me through to bringing Ornstein down to half health, which is already a big improvement!

 

Trying to resist the urge to get greedy by only hitting twice each turn, but using double-handed so it’s still dealing decent damage.

 

Theoretically speaking, you don’t need a shield if the enemy can’t hit you!


Yeah, it’s far better to go two handed and roll than use a shield. Getting clipped using a shield drains your stamina anyway and leaves you open for getting hit again a lot of the time.

 

I’ve been gaming for 35yrs+. Grew up on arcade cabs. Shinobi was one of my favs. Finished Ninja Gaiden, Bayo, DMC etc on their hardest difficulties. I know what I’m on with! Truth is,  that fight and some of the others are just janky and rely on luck more than skill. 
 

1. The camera doesn’t work well in that fight. You can end up battling it more then the boss trying to get it to do what you want it to do.

2. The bosses attacks glitch. The smaller one can home in but he often gets stuck in the pillars and then suddenly slides off them and finishes the move when least expected. At other times he does it from behind the bigger enemy so you don’t even see him attacking at all. 
3. The A.I often doesn’t separate the two bosses, which can lead to a patience testing war of attrition, as you circle around the room waiting for them to split up. 
4. Many of the boss fights require trial and error because the bosses can often one shot you, which is cheap as chips.
 

Instead of being hard because it’s well balanced, fair and a test of skill.......it’s hard because it’s poorly designed and the mechanics are wonky. As others have said, you can usually summon for help or you can upgrade your weapon too, which would help you out a bit.

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2 hours ago, Nick R said:

 

You've bought all those versions but you're only now playing it for the first time? :blink:

 

I mean, I've got a big backlog of unplayed games dating back nearly a decade, but nothing I've paid full price for or bought on multiple formats!

 

 

And you've played all those... but in DS1 you've struggled to do things like judge attack distances and glean story and gameplay hints from item descriptions? :blink:

 

Hmm... are you sure your posts here aren't just winding us up? :sherlock:


I stopped playing on 360 as I had touring commitments, so couldn’t play for months. I then got into a new relationship and stopped gaming for a couple of years.  Not sure why I stopped playing on Switch. Having played the PS4 version I realised that I’d got to the Depths on 360 and had just rang the bell on Switch.

 

Honestly, I think people are forgetting just how obscure these games are! With hindsight it’s easy to say “oh you do this” or “just check a menu”, but for someone playing them fresh it’s really not that obvious at all! 
 

See, you’ve been really cool so far mate. Really helped me out and I appreciate that. Saying “you’ve struggled to judg attack distances” is taking the piss though! I have a vid of me attacking an enemy, my sword smashes down straight through it, then a second later it dodges, passes through my sword which is straight through the middle of it and the game registers no damage. That’s happening all the time now. I have no idea why!
 

Tried fighting on uneven ground to check if it’s that. Tried using lock on and no lock. Tried fighting multiple enemies and single enemies. Nothing changes. it just randomly decides that I’m not going to do any damage on certain hits even though I’m hitting. It makes the game unplayable because having that happen and you die from it, after making 30mins of progress is beyond bullshit!

 

No, I’m not winding anyone up! That’s why I was asking about posting a vid up, to show I’m not and back up what I’m saying!

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Yea the homing attack glitch is a real pain in the arse, and enemies with long range that can clip you through walls/pillars are pure cheese. 
 

Smough is definitely the weaker of the two and I did manage to kill him, but of course Ornstein then clipped me and killed me at the same time. That’s fucking frustrating. :lol:

 

I was nevertheless treated to the half time show. Tell me this - does the second half of the battle play out differently if you kill Ornstein first? Because I didn’t like what I saw of Ultra Ornstein. :unsure:

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14 minutes ago, Calashnikov said:

On the other hand it’s probably the most legendary boss fight in the history of the medium.


See this is what I don’t get! I fucking LOVE Ninja Gaiden and Bayo. If I was playing a boss on them and encountered that kind of stuff I’d just say “this is janky as fuck and really let’s the game down”.  I wouldn’t be defending it and attacking people for brining to light obvious issues that even hardcore Dark Souls fans themselves list as issues.
 

It maybe a legendary boss fight, it maybe an all time classic game but there’s loads of unfair janky stuff in it. Why people are defending that is beyond me!

 

It took me 5 goes to beat O&S. In those goes I saw the smaller one walking on the spot into a wall for 30secs. Him getting stuck walking into pillars. Glitching in the pillars. Him getting wedged on pillars with his homing attack. The camera spinning around. My character attacking in the wrong direction. The A.I not separating making it impossible for me to hit them safely. Then on one go I had just needed to hit the final one just once more. I swung through it even though I was pressed up against it. It then jumped, I rolled backwards and out the way and even though I was clearly out the way, it landed nowhere near me and took the whole of my health bar. You died. 

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12 minutes ago, Popo said:

Yea the homing attack glitch is a real pain in the arse, and enemies with long range that can clip you through walls/pillars are pure cheese. 
 

Smough is definitely the weaker of the two and I did manage to kill him, but of course Ornstein then clipped me and killed me at the same time. That’s fucking frustrating. :lol:

 

I was nevertheless treated to the half time show. Tell me this - does the second half of the battle play out differently if you kill Ornstein first? Because I didn’t like what I saw of Ultra Ornstein. :unsure:


They’re both load easier when they’re on their own. The game just doesn’t cope well with multi boss encounters. The O&S fight backs up what I was saying earlier, most of the boss fights only require one of two tactics to beat. Either - keep your distance and counter. Or if it’s a big enemy roll into it, get tight and whip it to all fuck! Just roll away for it’s big close range attack. The easiest way of doing O&S is little dude first, big dude 2nd. Roll into the big dude when you can, get to his back, tear him a new one! Watch out for his jump move, as soon as he does it roll backwards, in fact keep rolling to be on the safe side. Rinse and repeat. He’ll go down like a sack of shit! You’ve got him this time dude!

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1 hour ago, Popo said:

You’re not kidding! 
 

Ok, that’s me got to the half-way mark twice now. Now I’ve seen what Super Smough can do I’m better prepared for the next time. 
 

This fat fuck is going down

Have you got the Crystal Spear? It does loads of damage against these two and let me get past them. 

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6 minutes ago, Uncle Nasty said:

All this talk of Anor Londo but no mention of the real boss of the level, the mighty Archers?


:) We were on about those two a few pages back! 
 

So, can anybody offer any help at all with my problem? I can’t figure out whether it’s a massive flaw with the game that people are just refusing to acknowledge or whether it’s some kind of bizarre glitch. At first I thought it was just wonky hitboxes or whatever but now I’m not so sure. It genuinely feels like it’s part of the game and the CPU is just cheating. It’s only happened since Anor Londo and while I’ve been using Zweihander, which I’ve now levelled up to its max. That only makes it even more frustrating though, seeing it smash straight through enemies and having no damage register at all! It’ll happen randomly, it’s not every enemy, which in some ways makes it worse, because I can be playing for 30mins no problem and then suddenly - unhittable enemy and I’m dead. Lost 30,000 souls to it. Other times it’s happening multiple times in a matter of mins. 
 

It didn’t happen up to ringing the first bell on Switch and I used Zweihander then too. I’m on a 60mbps connection with no problems. Could it be something to do with the online side of things? 

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11 minutes ago, Popo said:

And done! WOW! That is one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in a game, and I’ve beaten the Undertaker at the end of WWF Wrestlemania 2000 on the N64.

 

Solo, no shield equipped, two-handed. I was bobbing and weaving all over the place, Muhammad Ali would have been proud. 
 

Very nearly fucked it right at the end - could see Smough only needed one more hit to go down so decided for a cheeky 4-hit strike, but the cunt hit me with an electric ground pound me before I could land the last blow in - and I’d already emptied my Estus flask a few minutes earlier. 
 

I think I’ll go for a lie down now. :wacko:


:) Nice one man! 
 

I think that going forwards from that point, as long as you take on board that you could possibly encounter some janky stuff and some sketchy design decisions, then you should be golden! That’s the point where stuff started to slide for me, for a number of reasons, that all combined to me just wanting to never play the game again! Some of it was down to the way I’ve been playing the game on and off too, and trying not to look stuff up, which is something to think about. You basically have to look some stuff up at points, which I really don’t like and think is lazy design.
 

I’ve just got to Seath which I think is another pretty poor encounter but the randomly not being able to hit enemies thing is driving me up the wall. Surely someone must have encountered this before!

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14 minutes ago, CrichStand said:


So, can anybody offer any help at all with my problem? I can’t figure out whether it’s a massive flaw with the game that people are just refusing to acknowledge or whether it’s some kind of bizarre glitch.

I don't think anyone knows what you're talking about. Post a video.

 

And enough with this people refusing to acknowledge things crap. Why the fuck would anyone do that? If you want help, try not accusing people of weird stuff. 

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I’ve noticed that the game can be quite choosy when it comes to the player hitting the enemies - especially very tall enemies, where the targeting will aim directly in their centre, so if you’re facing them dead on you’ll swing between their legs and miss. It’s a bit more generous with enemies hitting the player though - eg through walls, or the nature of the dodge timing which needs to be perfectly timed (not too soon, not too late).

 

Hits that connect through walls are particularly frustrating - especially because we all know that if you’re attacking an enemy whose standing next to a wall, your attack will connect with the wall first and the enemy will be left untouched. 
 

It’s not game breaking, it’s just one of those ways in which the game trolls the player I guess. 

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4 minutes ago, Popo said:

Hits that connect through walls are particularly frustrating - especially because we all know that if you’re attacking an enemy whose standing next to a wall, your attack will connect with the wall first and the enemy will be left untouched. 


Tell that to Havel the Rock from my first play-through :lol: #rip

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What do you mean “accusing people of weird stuff”?
 

I’ve posted my personal opinion, made it clear it’s my personal opinion and that I respect other people’s views. I’ve then been told I’m a troll and that everyone should ignore me, that nobody cares what I’ve got to say, that i should stop posting, that I’m an attention seeker, that I don’t know what I’m talking about etc etc......all by people that weren’t even discussing the game in this thread in the first place! None of that is an acceptable way to treat someone in my book. 
 

There are a small minority of toxic and controlling people on here. That’s fine! They can be toxic and controlling if they want, but that’s their problem to deal with in life, not mine, especially since discovering the ignore list feature on here! Lol.

 

I post on here as I’m aware that the majority of people on here are proper straight up. Yeah, I might get people’s backs up from time to time as I tell it how it is. If I say this is shit or this is janky then that’s straight up. I’m not “trolling” anyone or whatever. Likewise I’m not attacking anyone by saying that. I understand that people are very passionate about games, so am I. However, people are more important than video games. That said, if people don’t agree with my sentiments or my posts and shit.......then they can stick me on the ignore list! :)
 

I’ve already asked how to post a video showing the stuff I’m encountering, to get some help and also to back up what I’m saying, but it says I can only use 2mb.

 

When I’m next on, I’m going to play offline and see if it still happens. Maybe it could be some kind of lag?

 

 

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