cohen205 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I think its called brainwashing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, alex3d said: It’s pretty shitty victim blaming. Oh the poor multi billion dollar corporation had no choice but to join in with manipulating addiction psychology and gambling tricks along with all the other shady corporations trying to fleece money from people by whatever unethical means they can think of. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 It's just business. They tried two different directions - one with Mario, the other with Fire Emblem - guess which one made them the most money? It would be nuts, and bad business, of them to ignore that. It's not good for us, and they'll never get money from me doing it this way, but it's ridiculous beyond the extreme to expect them to swim against the overwhelming tide on this. Consumers need to make a stand on it, it's the only way it's going to change. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, Rayn said: That was until she got to a level she couldn't beat. After a mere 3-4 tries, she asked where the "skip level" button was and how much it cost to skip a level. She had a hard time trying to grasp the concept of being stuck at that particular level until she actually beat it. In principle I see your point but haven't we on Rllmuk being saying for a while that there should be more options for the casual/time limited gamer. If I paid £40 for a game, what is the rationale for not letting me play the final level first if I want to? If I buy a film I can skip to the third act, why do games insist on penalising a person without the skills to proceed. And before everyone says that it is part of the game completing the levels in order and helps contribute to a skill curve for the gamer, this sometimes might be true by anyone who purchased Driver never to progress past the bloody garage tutorial can attest that sometimes developers do not set the difficult level at the right setting to allow feasibly allow progression for a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Being able to skip levels is fine, monetising it, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdood Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 01/02/2018 at 08:56, Nequests said: If they try and make it a proper racing game it'll probably be rubbish. I want something like this, but Mario Kart style: Oh goodness yes please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deKay Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I'm guessing this isn't going to be available in Belgium any time soon then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehStu Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, rgraves said: Consumers need to make a stand on it, it's the only way it's going to change. They never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, TehStu said: They never do. Yeah, which is why things aren't going to change - I just hope it stays primarily on mobile for now where I can pretty much ignore it. Fortnite is not helping though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I can't imagine them bringing it over to Switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehStu Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I think I'll just ride out the full price, traditional game into oblivion, if that's what all consoles fully embrace. Anyway, while I was signed up for the beta, that's yet another Nintendo mobile game I'll be avoiding. And I paid for Mario Run to encourage them to avoid this nonsense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majora Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 It looks shit but mobile gamers are so undemanding there's really no point them making much of an effort on this platform. I'm sure they learnt their lesson with Super Mario Run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strafe Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 It looks a bit shit, tbh. I hope it doesn’t cannibalise the main series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loik V credern Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, moosegrinder said: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-05-22-heres-our-first-look-at-mario-kart-tour-for-smartphones lol I'm so out of the loop, i can't even follow videogame language anymore. (... ) What does 'rare drivers' mean? And while I'm here, what is 'multi-level gacha'? And i don't understand what 'stamina system limits races available on an hourly basis' Is it all pay more, get more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsin Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 The term gacha comes from gachapon, which is the Japanese word for capsule machines like you saw in Shenmue. In essence it means games where a significant factor is pulling for stuff (characters, weapons...etc) from what's basically a fruit machine, usually for some form of premium currency. Very similar to loot boxes. In this case multi-level means that you have to get multiple things via this system, so it's not just carts, it's drivers as well as accessories like glider. There'll be different levels of all these items, so for instance a gold rarity cart will be better than silver, which is better than bronze...etc. The percentage change of getting the best items in these types of games is unusually ridiculously low (-1%). Stamina is just a fancy system to limit how much you can play before shelling out more. So usually you'll have a Street Fighter style energy bar that has, say, 100hp and a race costs 25hp. So you can only have four races before it runs out and you have to wait or it to refill (usually at a ridiculously slow rate) or pay money so you can keep playing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcr Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 just read what this game is fuck that Nintendo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroid Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Fuck you and your business practices Nintendo! ...Day one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I mean obviously we're all going to try it, it's free* Mario Kart. *not free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehStu Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I said that about the Forza mobile game, but that was absolutely a freemium experience, too. Lookup the thread, it's almost a blueprint for micro transaction mechanics. I don't really blame them, I guess this is what mobile users have generally decided they want. I just don't want it to have a big effect on traditional gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosegrinder Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 It won't. I remember when people were bleating on about mobile gaming killing console gaming and it hasn't, it's just another sub set of gaming. It'll be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Nintendo seem to have mostly kept micro-transactions out of their first party Switch games, at least as far as I can tell. They dabbled a bit with Pokémon Quest but they've been very quiet about that one since launch, so it's possible it didn't bring in the kind of money to make it worth pursuing. Hopefully they're sensible enough to leave that stuff to the mobile crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex3d Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Nintendo shares are doing quite well in an otherwise bleak market environment, by the way. Might be MKT related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_debaser Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Can’t wait for this, it’s everything I wanted in a Mario Kart game! Thanks Nintendo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlew Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Remember that mobile game where you press a button and it just gives you dengue fever? Better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeDeDe Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I get the negativity towards the business model, but I’m sincerely looking forward quite a bit to this game. Can’t wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Me too. I don’t expect it to be anything other than a cash grab, but I’ll happily play decent freemium toss without spending any cash on it so I don’t really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Do 71 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Out September 25th, iOS & Android. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capwn Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Why is nobody talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitterToad Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 That video's amazing. They make it look like a tough to control weapons fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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