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This is one of those films that is one thing, but decides to become something else entirely part way through, and which is absolutely successful in both aims. I can see why a lot people would rather it was all the first thing but I don't think that should be a mark against it. The sides play off each other to great effect, and if it was all like the second half I don't think people would be complaining either.

 

Reminds me of when Ebert was really disappointed that The Matrix stopped being about existential mystery half-way through, and became an action movie.

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That’s exactly what I thought, except I thought there were places where the two “things” interacted weirdly and it didn’t totally work. 

 

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Like, at the beginning you’re meant to care about the subtleties of the family relationships and by the end they’re all dying in over-the-top gruesome ways. It’s a bit weird. 

 

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On 24/08/2018 at 12:57, Creamstick said:

I've noticed other places too, that people are really ooooooverly defensive of this film when anyone dares to say that it's not some untouchable masterpiece. No-one's saying it's shite, pals. If it scared you, that's fine. If you found some deeper meaning that touched you somehow, that's good. If it made you feel some kind of way, fucking go you!

 

 

Now I couldn't give two shits to be honest. I just wanted to make the point with my original post that you must be referring to, that innkeepers and house of the devil are shite not sleight in my opinion. Whilst others find them highlights of the genre. 

 

I stand by my rating this as highly as Rosemary's baby mind. 

 

Btw, I watched this again last night and it was even better the second time. And the entire last 10mins are spelt out throughout the movie. 

 

Would watch again. 

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44 minutes ago, cassidy said:

Now I couldn't give two shits to be honest. I just wanted to make the point with my original post that you must be referring to that innkeepers and house of the devil are shite not sleight. 

 

I watched this again last night and it was even better the second time. And the entire last 10mins are spelt out throughout the movie. 

 

Would watch again. 

Yeah the change in the second half doesn't feel that different on a second watch as the foundations are all there from the start. Looking forward too my third watch.

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Decent enough film even if the main horror of it was the girl's face.

Thankfully that wasn't a problem for long.

 

The last 15 - 20 minutes were hilarious.

Was the Toni Collette character in on what was happening? She didn't seem to have a clue but then started crawling around and sawing her own head off.

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2 hours ago, Made of Ghosts said:

That’s exactly what I thought, except I thought there were places where the two “things” interacted weirdly and it didn’t totally work. 

 

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Like, at the beginning you’re meant to care about the subtleties of the family relationships and by the end they’re all dying in over-the-top gruesome ways. It’s a bit weird. 

 

 

I think it gives all the weirdness a bit more of an emotional context and weight, and the contrast from the naturalistic stuff makes it seem even weirder than it already is on its face.

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Trying to watch this and I'm unsure if I'm supposed to be hearing this droning bass noise that starts at about 13 minutes into the movie (which seems at odds with what's actually happening on screen)?

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Ehh, that is so weird. I acquired a different version and it's the exact same thing. Sounds as if my neighbors are playing Hardstyle or something lol. 

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Yeah that’s an awesome bass beat playing through certain scenes. It makes some people uncomfortable apparently. 

 

It was more prominent on the home release though.

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I wonder if that's the compensate for home cinema systems not being quite as infra-soundy? I think I felt it more than I heard it in the cinema.

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7 hours ago, cassidy said:

Now I couldn't give two shits to be honest. I just wanted to make the point with my original post that you must be referring to, that innkeepers and house of the devil are shite not sleight in my opinion. Whilst others find them highlights of the genre.

 

I don't know how to break this to you, but I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to a general sense of people being overly offended when someone doesn't rate this film as a masterpiece, in other places, as well as here. You're kinda making my point for me.

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21 minutes ago, Creamstick said:

 

I don't know how to break this to you, but I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to a general sense of people being overly offended when someone doesn't rate this film as a masterpiece, in other places, as well as here. You're kinda making my point for me.

 

It was just an odd, almost patronising thing to say, as if to validate your own opinion being the one true opinion. Because someone’s got defensive on the internet about something, it means you’re right and anyone who liked it is wrong.

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8 minutes ago, Paulando said:

 

It was just an odd, almost patronising thing to say, as if to validate your own opinion being the one true opinion. Because someone’s got defensive on the internet about something, it means you’re right and anyone who liked it is wrong.

Yeah it's like when everyone was going mental in the last Jedi thread at anyone who thought it wasn't a great movie (which it isn't). I stayed out of the thread in the end because it was pretty tiresome to see everyone getting shouted down because they felt it wasn't a good film and couldn't fairly express their opinion.

I'm not a fan of people who confuse opinion with fact and I see it a lot.

We all like different things at the end of the day. And things like horror are particularly difficult because everyone gets scared/creeped out by different things.

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That’s always been the problem with this forum / social media tho, people get personal where there is simply no reason to be 

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40 minutes ago, strider said:

Yeah it's like when everyone was going mental in the last Jedi thread at anyone who thought it wasn't a great movie (which it isn't). I stayed out of the thread in the end because it was pretty tiresome to see everyone getting shouted down because they felt it wasn't a good film and couldn't fairly express their opinion.

I'm not a fan of people who confuse opinion with fact and I see it a lot.

We all like different things at the end of the day. And things like horror are particularly difficult because everyone gets scared/creeped out by different things.

I do get that, but I think the reverse is often true as well. There are a handful of people who will spam certain threads continually telling everyone how much they hate said film or TV show. As soon as a positive post is made you know they'll be back on to remind everyone of their opinion. I stopped reading Game Of Thrones and The Last Jedi threads a long time ago as it started to feel like groundhog day.

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5 hours ago, Creamstick said:

 

I don't know how to break this to you, but I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to a general sense of people being overly offended when someone doesn't rate this film as a masterpiece, in other places, as well as here. You're kinda making my point for me.

my post is basically me doing the same about other highly regarded recent horror movies. So not at all the same. It’s almost like people can have different opinions about things and enjoying sharing those different opinions. 

 

On  a discussion forum of all places. 

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14 hours ago, VN1X said:

Trying to watch this and I'm unsure if I'm supposed to be hearing this droning bass noise that starts at about 13 minutes into the movie (which seems at odds with what's actually happening on screen)?

 

It’s the score:

 

 

 

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I watched this yesterday. There are definitely great horror moments in there, but overall I think there's just has too much stuff in it and I found it confusing. Like it was trying to fit loads of different kinds of horror tropes in there but they don't gel together into a single coherent idea. At least not one that I could follow.

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That’s exactly what it is tho - someone’s misguided attempt to blend Amytville and Rosemary’s Baby. 

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It can be a confusing film at times but that was part of the appeal, and obviously designed that way to keep jaded horror viewers on edge. Certainly worked for me.

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Hrrmph man I was sooo there until the 40% mark .

 

 

Scary Grandmother apparition and 'smiley man' while not exactly 'The Shining Dog/Bear fellatio' level will linger in my memory bank for a bit. 3/5

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Just found a seller who has the us 4K blu ray. Should have this for the 31st.

Can't wait to watch it again.

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Hmmmph. 

 

HE-MEH-DITARY.

 

It was good, not all that scary, but then I don’t think it was ever going to live up to the hype. Some moments were really well done and it had some memorable imagery, but the film joining it all together was messy. I was never sold on the malevolent force in the movie. *Spoiler* was more like a made-for-TV villain. I didn’t have a problem with the ending.

 

Stephen King’s Gramma is a similar story told more succinctly and effectively.

 

Ps. Also found some bits provoking humour rather than empathy or terror.

 

Toni Collette’s hammy grief montage didn’t quite hit the right notes. She was great elsewhere, especially in the dinner scene, but it was annoying how they both let the son push back the blame in an utterly illogical and nonsensical way.

And the whole Joanie thing in the second act was obvious and really stretched the suspension of disbelief, felt contrived and crowbarred in. Didn’t feel that Colette’s character would’ve gone along with it.

 

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Really enjoyed the first half, but found myself losing interest as it went on. Would watch again.

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Watched it again for a second time and it holds up brilliantly. My wife found it too slow and my kids laughed through it, but I love it.

It's possibly one of my favourite horror movies.

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Thought this was okay. But I really, really, really could have done without Basil Exposition at the end. 

 

Imagine how much better the Shining would have been if instead of just the slow zoom on the ballroom photo, the guy who interviewed him at the start came back and explained that he was now part of the hotel forever before the credits.

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4 hours ago, strider said:

Watched it again for a second time and it holds up brilliantly. My wife found it too slow and my kids laughed through it, but I love it.

It's possibly one of my favourite horror movies.

Sums it up for me. I honestly thought it was supposed to be funny.

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3 minutes ago, linkster said:

I honestly thought it was supposed to be funny.

 

I wouldn’t go that far personally, but I thought certain bits were laughable.

 

The more I’ve thought about this since I saw it, the more disappointed I am. It started so strongly, I really thought I was going to end up watching something deep and memorable.

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