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Loving your posts on this @Broker

 

I was going to ask about The Punisher as I was always well aware of him. He had three movies prior to the MCU although none of them made a big impact. I guess he's not really a superhero and probably got the Dolph Lundgren adaptation in 1989 due to the popularity of urban vigilantes in the 70s and 80s (starting with Dirty Harry, Death Wish etc).

 

I'm amazed so few people had heard of Iron Man before the MCU! Though I think all my Marvel character knowledge comes from the superheroes and supervillians Top Trumps sets from late 80s and the Capcom beat 'em ups from the 90s. If you were not in either of those, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned! Where is the Omega Red tie-in??

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I am surprised there is apparently such a debate on this - perhaps it's a sign of how overwhelmingly successful the MCU movies have been. I thought it was well-established at the time that Marvel was making a huge success out of what were largely lower-tier characters in terms of recognition and pre-existing popularity, in that Marvel had already flogged the rights to the popular characters to studios that were doing a bad job with them.

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It's more the "I'd never heard of Captain America and Iron Man before the MCU" bombshell that I saw a couple of pages back. To me that's much more scandalous than Kerraig's "never heard of Alex Ferguson" claim.

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Marvel did a great job of making their brand the box office draw, as opposed to the properties or even the stars. This meant that as well as utilising C-tier characters, they could cast C-tier actors. 

They took a huge punt on RDJ, who up to that point was pretty much synonymous with the term 'has-been' , after his much publicised battles with addiction. 

Then they cast the virtually unknown Hemsworth and the failed Johnny Storm, Chris Evans. 

 

Later, I can remember reading articles predicting Marvel's first flop ahead of both Guardians and Ant Man. 

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1 hour ago, Pob said:

It's more the "I'd never heard of Captain America and Iron Man before the MCU" bombshell that I saw a couple of pages back. To me that's much more scandalous than Kerraig's "never heard of Alex Ferguson" claim.

What can I say, I was never into comics in my youth, or even knew of anyone that was.

 

Now though, after having two boys and watching them grow up with the MCU, I feel like I could make it my specialist subject on Mastermind!

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Any chance we'll see Mile Morales in these next phases? After playing the game I'm thinking a team-up with Thor for lightning and comedy shenanigans would be pure gold - give it to the guys who did Spider-verse (who admittedly may or may not want to after their time on Solo). 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

Any chance we'll see Mile Morales in these next phases? After playing the game I'm thinking a team-up with Thor for lightning and comedy shenanigans would be pure gold - give it to the guys who did Spider-verse (who admittedly may or may not want to after their time on Solo). 

His uncle already appeared in Homecoming in the guise of Donald Glover so I’d say it’s a dead cert. 

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10 hours ago, Pob said:

Loving your posts on this @Broker

 

I was going to ask about The Punisher as I was always well aware of him. He had three movies prior to the MCU although none of them made a big impact. I guess he's not really a superhero and probably got the Dolph Lundgren adaptation in 1989 due to the popularity of urban vigilantes in the 70s and 80s (starting with Dirty Harry, Death Wish etc).

 

I'm amazed so few people had heard of Iron Man before the MCU! Though I think all my Marvel character knowledge comes from the superheroes and supervillians Top Trumps sets from late 80s and the Capcom beat 'em ups from the 90s. If you were not in either of those, you don't exist as far as I'm concerned! Where is the Omega Red tie-in??


Absolutely. I’m still waiting for my A-tier MCU movie starring Shuma Gorath, Psylocke and Blackheart. 

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On 23/11/2020 at 13:12, Broker said:

The main issue with Miles appearing is that MCU Peter is so young, and he’s usually a new generation Spider-Man. I’d be happy to see him in whatever form though.

 

Technically Miles could have caught up with Peter by 5 yrs, even if they don't do multiverse stuff.  Not sure how well the young-young dynamic works.  Or young-younger and Peter having to be the older mentor even though he's still a kid himself.

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I don’t think Peter will be much of a child by the time Miles is introduced. Did I read somewhere that he’ll have finished high school by the next movie? Then more time will have passed before another, assuming they’re not planning on sneaking Miles into the next one. 

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On 26/11/2020 at 08:45, Super Craig said:

Someone on ResetEra suggested that they might be doing a Spider-verse x Sinister Six thing, where 2 villains from each live-action series make up the six.


That sounds interesting, I wonder who it would be? 

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