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10 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said:

Well I think the “gameplay” presentation a couple of weeks ago is generally regarded as a misstep, so nothing is a guarantee at this point. 

Yeah, I was talking about the naming of the console and how they convey that to the public really. I really hope they’ve got some amazing games lined up for this upcoming presentation, as that’s where they’re going to win or lose people.

 

I didn’t even see that one from a few weeks ago, is there a summary of it anywhere?

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33 minutes ago, CarloOos said:

Meh, people only diss the brutes because of their shitty implementation in Halo 2. They're great in Halo 3, ODST and Reach.

They’re certainly miles better than the Prometheans. I just don’t want all the political shit that came with them against the Elites.

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1 minute ago, JPL said:

Yeah, I was talking about the naming of the console and how they convey that to the public really. I really hope they’ve got some amazing games lined up for this upcoming presentation, as that’s where they’re going to win or lose people.

 

I didn’t even see that one from a few weeks ago, is there a summary of it anywhere?


Ah I thought you were just talking overall. 
 

I would just watch the whole thing on YouTube really. Otherwise MinnMax or Easy Allies both had pretty good analysis on their podcasts.

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6 minutes ago, JPL said:

Yeah, I was talking about the naming of the console and how they convey that to the public really. I really hope they’ve got some amazing games lined up for this upcoming presentation, as that’s where they’re going to win or lose people.

 

I didn’t even see that one from a few weeks ago, is there a summary of it anywhere?

Video is in the first post. Just a heads up, there is hardly any gameplay though!

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This is not the next-gen showcase event but something extra...

 

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https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/01/summer-game-fest-demo-event-xbox/

 

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While we can’t recreate the experience of attending a big show entirely, we can help you get your hands on lots of cool new games early. As announced by Geoff Keighley as part of Summer Games Fest, Xbox is proud to reveal that our Summer Games Fest Demo Event will be live on Xbox One from July 21 to July 27.

We’ll have more than 60 brand-new game demos for upcoming, unreleased Xbox games available to check out for free! Look for the special Game Fest Demo tile on the Xbox One Dashboard that week to find the collection of available demos.
 

These demos will only be up on the Xbox Dashboard for a week. Some might be re-published to the Demo channel later, but many will simply evaporate at the end of the week, so make sure to check them out while you can.

 

We’ll have a lot of games – somewhere between 75 and 100 when the dust settles. We’ll announce the full list closer to July 21

 

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29 minutes ago, JPL said:

They’re certainly miles better than the Prometheans. I just don’t want all the political shit that came with them against the Elites.

 

I actually thought the Prometheans were fine in Halo 4, they were sufficiently different to the Covenant to fight and complimented them nicely. 'Popping' those dog ones will never get old.

 

The introduction of the bullet-sponge humanoid 'soldiers' in Halo 5, and retooling the Knights to be more like Hunters than Elites, didn't work for me at all. There's also just far too much of everything in Halo 5 to ever get a sense of control over the battles, they either need to either scale the enemy numbers right back or design the levels in a smarter way so you're not constantly cowering from incoming fire from 25 directions at once.

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Agree that the Brutes and Prometheans aren't good news would be my default, but I've played a lot of Halo Wars 2 recently and the Brutes have a bit more character in my mind now.

 

I pretty much think that the environment is going to be the most interesting part of Infinite. Will it be open world? How will that work? How free will you be? That's a much bigger concern /point of interest than who's shooting back, IMO. 

 

Despite this, it's probably too late for a hashtag but #NoPrometheansForInfinite would work for me. 

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Personally I think it's great news, E3 finally comes home and we can play what should have been on the show floor.

 

The Series X event is starting to look like it'll happen on the 23rd so there maybe some first party demos available.

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2 hours ago, JPL said:

@FiveFootNinja Regarding Halo, if that last teaser is anything to go by then the Brutes are back.

 

Just the thing everyone wants. <_<

 

At least it's not The Flood.

 

I don't mind Brutes at all.

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1 hour ago, Sarlaccfood said:


I know it’s just nostalgia talking but I’d love a legacy OG Xbox title like a new Jet Set Radio or Ninja Gaiden.

 

Sony are smart with stuff like this, I'd like to see MS lean into their heritage a bit more. I suppose that's what Phantom Dust was supposed to be, but nobody outside of America seemed to remember it. A new Ninja Gaiden, Otogi, Jet Set Radio or (extremely unlikely given the recent remake) Panzer Dragoon, just something a bit more old school and left-field. Hell, a new Mech Assault with physics-based destructible buildings.

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Just now, CarloOos said:

 

 

Sony are smart with stuff like this, I'd like to see MS lean into their heritage a bit more. I suppose that's what Phantom Dust was supposed to be, but nobody outside of America seemed to remember it. A new Ninja Gaiden, Otogi, Jet Set Radio or (extremely unlikely given the recent remake) Panzer Dragoon, just something a bit more old school and left-field.


Yeah agreed. A new Otogi (or even a remake of 1+2) would be such a canny choice too.

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9 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said:


Yeah agreed. A new Otogi (or even a remake of 1+2) would be such a canny choice too.

 

Also with Games Pass the risky sales potential for cult titles like Otogi shouldn't matter as much, and they generate an outsized amount of good will towards the brand. Or at least until a new generation of players are introduced to 'None Shall Pass'.

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If Microsoft could "God of War" a Ninja Gaiden reboot I'd be all in. I'm midway through the former and it's such a well judged bit of nostalgia fused with a genuinely fantastic modern game. Xbox could really benefit from something like that rather than just general IP sequels with a few more shinies.

 

Never played Otogi. Demon Souls that while you are at it and I'd give it a whirl too :) 

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Otogi was pretty weird, it was basically a floaty hack and slash game but with some pretty ambitious destructible environments for the time. Every time you did a heavy attack you'd send the enemy flying through the environment, taking actual chunks out of the level geometry. I remember the sequel had a few levels with EDF-sized enemy hordes which meant you could set off a chain reaction that would completely tank the frame-rate into single digits, it was great. By the time everything calmed down and the debris cleared half of the map would be gone.

 

Also I'm coming to the end of a Ninja Gaiden 2 replay at the moment and still think those two games are unparalleled in terms of feedback and animation. Platinum can shove it, that staircase fight at the end of NG2 is 15 minutes straight of pure player empowerment and has never been surpassed in its genre.

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38 minutes ago, CarloOos said:

Otogi was pretty weird, it was basically a floaty hack and slash game but with some pretty ambitious destructible environments for the time. Every time you did a heavy attack you'd send the enemy flying through the environment, taking actual chunks out of the level geometry. I remember the sequel had a few levels with EDF-sized enemy hordes which meant you could set off a chain reaction that would completely tank the frame-rate into single digits, it was great. By the time everything calmed down and the debris cleared half of the map would be gone.

 

Also I'm coming to the end of a Ninja Gaiden 2 replay at the moment and still think those two games are unparalleled in terms of feedback and animation. Platinum can shove it, that staircase fight at the end of NG2 is 15 minutes straight of pure player empowerment and has never been surpassed in its genre.

The thing I feel stood out most with Otogi is its atmosphere. I liked the actual game play but the atmosphere was pretty damn unique, I loved it. From are masters at creating strange and enjoyable atmospheres. 

 

Wonder what game of theirs was the first to bring that to the table, kings Field?

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While the single player may not have been the greatest, Halo 5’s multiplayer is peerless. @Kryptonian and I still play it on a regular basis and it’s incredible . I hope they manage to replicate that with Halo Infinite. While it’d be nice to have a great single player campaign I’ll still only spend a tiny minority of my time with it playing that.

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On 02/07/2020 at 02:05, Sarlaccfood said:

Well up for the 23rd though. I know it’s just nostalgia talking but I’d love a legacy OG Xbox title like a new Jet Set Radio or Ninja Gaiden.

 

Much as I'd love to see another Ninja Garden, without Itagaki at the helm (and without all of Team Ninja backing him) I doubt Tecmo could ever match the brilliance of the two Xbox games. 

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On 01/07/2020 at 23:52, metallicfrodo said:

While the single player may not have been the greatest, Halo 5’s multiplayer is peerless. @Kryptonian and I still play it on a regular basis and it’s incredible . I hope they manage to replicate that with Halo Infinite. While it’d be nice to have a great single player campaign I’ll still only spend a tiny minority of my time with it playing that.

 

It’s one of my favourite games of the generation, purely because of the MP. I’m just worried that the negative feedback Halo 4 and 5 have had and the sort of rebrand to Infinite is going to see a lot of the brilliant MP design choices booted.

 

Even the campaign is way better when you learn the ropes in MP. Still doesn’t stop the Warden being crap, though.

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Some of the old Jet Set Radio leads were talking recently in interviews, saying they'd rather leave it for younger devs to pursue further games in the series. Maybe Sega will hand it out to an indie team or something, like with Streets of Rage and Sonic Mania.

 

Naganuma seems pretty active these days so they could probably get the music right, at least.

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Any other lapsed 360 owners looking forward to the Series S? If the price is right I might get one for my 360 library and to catch up on Xbox One titles, while I wait to make a decision on which 4K console to buy.

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18 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Any other lapsed 360 owners looking forward to the Series S? If the price is right I might get one for my 360 library and to catch up on Xbox One titles, while I wait to make a decision on which 4K console to buy.

 

Technically I was, having moved over to PC a few years before the One launch.  Xbox lost it's way well before the One reveal.  Their exclusives stopped being interesting and my PC could play 3rd part stuff better. My daughter got an S a couple of Christmases ago.  I've ended up playing a fair amount of Gamepass stuff on it.  Itching to get a console with an SSD as much as anything.  Load times are just painful on current gen.

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9 minutes ago, monkeydog said:

Xbox lost it's way well before the One reveal.

Yeah, the 360 was shit, wasn’t it?! :blink2:

 

As for the Series S, if the price is right, that’ll be my 2 lads sorted for Christmas.

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1 minute ago, JPL said:

Yeah, the 360 was shit, wasn’t it?!

 

That's not what I meant, I'm really fond of it! :)  For me, the PC overtook it as the best place for big 3rd party and indie titles.  Their first party had turned dull before they TV'd themselves.

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2 minutes ago, JPL said:

Yeah, the 360 was shit, wasn’t it?! :blink2:

 

Xbox 360: 2006 - 2010 *Chef's kiss* (ignoring red ring of death fiasco).

 

Xbox 360 + Kinect "You're the controller" bollocks: Yes. Yes it was.

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, monkeydog said:

 

That's not what I meant, I'm really fond of it! :)  For me, the PC overtook it as the best place for big 3rd party and indie titles.  Their first party had turned dull before they TV'd themselves.

I know, I was only messing!

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