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1 hour ago, Shimmyhill said:

 

Everton fan tonight tho, right? ;) 

 

I want every team to take points of City regardless of who they are. I wouldn't want Liverpool to lose at home to United to stop Everton staying top though. Fuck that.

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Away goals always feels a horribly artifical and meaningless way to decide a tie so I won’t be sad to see it go.

 

It generates some false tension with the ‘if they get 1 you then need 2’ scenarios but again its manufactured tension.

 

Suspect there will be a lot more penalty shoot outs

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It's one of those that feels unfair even if statistically it is a wash.

 

Especially when your Championship team pulls a 4-1 first leg deficit back against a Premier League side with a 3-0 home win in 90 minutes, only for the away goals rule to kick in after 120 and the Premier League manager (no names, no pack drill, let's call him... Twitchy McBung) gets to spend the next few years going "And I took them to the League Cup final, you know".

 

Yes, I am still bitter.

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That twitter thread basically makes two arguments - one that extra time is often boring (in his opinion), and the other that away goals offer moments of drama as the tie swings from defeat to victory.

 

For the latter, as Gotters says it's a manufactured tension. You could achieve the same thing in a variety of ways, without addressing the argument that a team get penalised for putting in their better performace in the wrong leg. Fuck. That. May as well opt for disallowing goalkeepers over five feet tall if you want to get your kicks through artificial impositions.

 

For ther former, just do away with extra time if it bores you so much. If 180 minutes can't separate the teams, do you really need another half hour?

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I still like the idea of avoiding penalties and spicing up extra time by simply forcing both teams to remove a player (of their choice) every 5 minutes.  Once it's one on one, some fucker's gonna score.

 

But there's tactics to that, who you remove. If you're a lower league team maybe you remove the goalkeeper a little early and just fucking go for it.   You might think you should leave your best players on but then you might not have anything like a sensible team...

 

Worth a trial at least I'd say,

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Once you can't separate teams over 2 legs and replays are obviously not an option it all gets a bit unsatisfactory.

 

I know we always laugh at the americans but as a test of football skill the player being made to run up with the ball from a point with a timer going (ice hockey style) seems more a test of overall skill than just a penalty.

 

I always like the idea of reversing pens and ET so you do the shootout before but then play ET with both teams knowing what the result will be if they are still deadlocked - means a team can't just play for pens for the whole of ET (but they could of course try to park a bus) - problem with this is cramp and players stiffening up whilst you take pens at the end of normal time, then you expect them to play another 30m.

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12 minutes ago, Gotters said:

I know we always laugh at the americans but as a test of football skill the player being made to run up with the ball from a point with a timer going (ice hockey style) seems more a test of overall skill than just a penalty.

 

 

They tried this in Italy a few years back - the season Robbie Keane was there. Players start their run about halfway between the goal and the centre circle. Don't think it ever really took off.

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