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Anyone that ranks any prequel or standalone or modern trilogy film above RotJ needs to take a good long look at themselves.  There are times when, whisper it, that it edges out TESB just on its final third alone.

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1 minute ago, Bucky said:

Anyone that ranks any prequel or standalone or modern trilogy film above RotJ needs to take a good long look at themselves.  There are times when, whisper it, that it edges out TESB just on its final third alone.

RotJ wouldn't make my top 5. It's better than the prequels, though. 

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1 hour ago, Paulando said:

The 3D at the laser IMAX was absolutely the best 3D I’ve ever experienced - super-bright, pin-sharp, no cross-talk, and no blurriness at all. I’d have still preferred to see it in 2D, but as 3D goes it was A1.

 

At the IMAX Glasgow Science Centre triple bill TFA and TROS were in 3D but TLJ was 2D. Might have been the only version they could get I suppose.

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12 minutes ago, Bucky said:

Anyone that ranks any prequel or standalone or modern trilogy film above RotJ needs to take a good long look at themselves.  There are times when, whisper it, that it edges out TESB just on its final third alone.

 

I linked to some of his reviews in the general Star Wars series thread a few days ago, but these are the ones that explain the more surprising positions in that ranking...

 

https://letterboxd.com/damooney/film/return-of-the-jedi/

https://letterboxd.com/damooney/film/star-wars-episode-iii-revenge-of-the-sith/

https://letterboxd.com/damooney/film/star-wars-the-force-awakens/

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27 minutes ago, mdn2 said:

The bit that got me was 

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Chewie collapsing with that wail when he found out Leia had died. :(

 

 

The big man's had a hard time. Han, Luke then Leia in fairly short order. Maybe Tarful does bereavement counselling.

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It’s not awful like TLJ. But it’s also not a good movie. It’s Star Wars made to feel like a generic Marvel film. Space stuff, fighting stuff. Wooden actors. 

 

4/10

 

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I thought it started well but lost cohesion by halfway and in its eagerness to tie everything up and please old Star Wars fans turned into a well-meaning sludge.

 

Not sure where they go from here. It could do with a Casino Royale style reboot but I'm not sure how you would do that with Star Wars.

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22 minutes ago, Trumpets said:

I thought it started well but lost cohesion by halfway and in its eagerness to tie everything up and please old Star Wars fans turned into a well-meaning sludge.

 

Not sure where they go from here. It could do with a Casino Royale style reboot but I'm not sure how you would do that with Star Wars.

 

Move well away from the Skywalker era. 500 years forward or back should do it. 1000 years even.

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My guess is Disney will focus on TV series for a few years, then release a feature length Clone Wars animation or similar. I think that might be a way to bridge to an entirely new trilogy or further Star Wars Stories (perhaps rebranded after Solo’s lukewarm box office)

 

There’s plenty of other lore that hasn’t been touched and that could be made cinematic too.

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1 hour ago, Trumpets said:

I thought it started well but lost cohesion by halfway and in its eagerness to tie everything up and please old Star Wars fans turned into a well-meaning sludge.

 

Not sure where they go from here. It could do with a Casino Royale style reboot but I'm not sure how you would do that with Star Wars.


Star Wars : Casino Planet Royale 

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23 minutes ago, Hanzo the Razor said:

Isn't there a movie pencilled in for Christmas 2022? Then alternating each year with the 3 millions Avatar sequels?


They’ve chopped and changed their future slate so often that 3rd Tie Fighter pilot on the left could well be getting a prequel.

 

Hope whatever they do is in no way connected to what already exists on screen, but think an animation will equal merch sales aplenty and be different enough to what’s gone before. A Spider-Verse style animated film, for example, could be stunning but also massively depends on the harmony in Disney’s creative ranks and how risk averse they might now be.

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I genuinely loved this, I am not such a big follower of Star Wars to know much of its lore but as a neutral watching on 3D IMAX this was nothing short of awesome.  Kylo Ren and Emperor Palpatine smashed it, the opening 15 minutes or so was jaw-dropping.   That said, I was amazed at the low IMDB rating for this and forum feedback in general.  Producing a movie that would please hardcore fans and neutrals alike for most films must be incredibly difficult, for a series as sacred as Star Wars it must be nigh-on impossible.

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6 hours ago, mdn2 said:

The bit that got me was 

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Chewie collapsing with that wail when he found out Leia had died. :(

 

Didn't do a lot for me.

 

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People falling to their knees and doing their best anguish acting has been stinking up movies for the best part of a decade. Hiding "Nooooo" behind Wookie doesn't make it less naff.

 

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They missed a trick during the

 

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scene where Ray hears the fallen Jedi speak to her. They could have slipped in a "Meesa here too Ray!". I'm pretty sure Jar Jar will have survived the whole thing. Just to piss everybody off.

 

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3 hours ago, Bucky said:

Anyone that ranks any prequel or standalone or modern trilogy film above RotJ needs to take a good long look at themselves.  There are times when, whisper it, that it edges out TESB just on its final third alone.

Exactly this. ROTJ is amazing. 

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Here are my thoughts. They are all spoiler-y

 

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- They gave him a goddamn medal. Yeah they did. 
- The Carrie Fisher stuff is fine I guess. I miss her using, you know, nouns and stuff. But you work with what you've got. 
- The little droid repair guy is the only thing that got a laugh
- There are so many open loops in this movie
- What did Finn want to tell Rey?
- Why build up the whole thing about C3PO losing his memory then not pay it off?
- Did R2 and 3PO get a bit at the end? Did I miss it?
- And if you're going to make us fear for 3PO's safety, don't write him like Jar Jar in the first act
- That said, Sith 3PO is mega
- Jesus, Lando, she could be your granddaughter. I mean, she could literally be your granddaughter
- So we're just pretending the Rose and Finn thing didn't happen because, what? To keep the manbabies happy? That's pretty fucking ugly
- Why does Jannah only get to talk to other black characters?
- The "Dunkirk crossing" shot is magnificent
- The new droid is funny. Give him and the little droid mechanic their own movie
- Palpatine is super creepy. Perfectly pitched
- But when did he have a kid?
- I would have thought the best time to track down your offspring is, I dunno, when you're supreme Emperor of an evil galactic empire, rather than shortly after your death
- Darkside Rey is super hot


I enjoyed watching it. I think I need a couple more tries before I can say I liked it. 
 

I don’t feel like I did when I left TLJ - which I felt had got so much right that it left me in tears. 
 

 

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Richard E Grant is a superb sneering villainous First Order/Imperial officer.  He should have played Hux in all 3 films to give the character some proper menace, rather than the pantomime comic relief performance we were subjected to.

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I absolutely loved it. The pace never let up, there was no stupid casino scene in it, the scenes with Rey and Kylo Ren were hugely affecting, and as a whole, for me, it felt much more authentic than TLJ. There was so much packed in that it absolutely demands at least two more viewings :)

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I forgot that

 

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Chewie got a medal - my son is going to love that tomorrow

 

I really liked it, but more thoughts after I’ve seen it again in the morning.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Waggo said:

Richard E Grant is a superb sneering villainous First Order/Imperial officer.  He should have played Hux in all 3 films to give the character some proper menace, rather than the pantomime comic relief performance we were subjected to.

Grant was great but Gleeson is a good actor too and played the part he was given very well. The fact that the First Order weren't very threatening was the fault of the writing and not of the actors. 

 

Glad they did finally introduce a proper imperial officer in the vein of Tarkin etc. for the third film, it was desperately needed. 

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