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I'd agree about episode two, but I thought one was great. Loads going on.

 

Have just finished episode six (second time around), 'Which Side Are You On?' Unbearably tense. So good. And great comic relief from Wambsgans and cousin Greg.

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7 hours ago, Dapple said:

I'd agree about episode two, but I thought one was great. Loads going on.

 

Have just finished episode six (second time around), 'Which Side Are You On?' Unbearably tense. So good. And great comic relief from Wambsgans and cousin Greg.

Don’t get me wrong neither episode are bad in anyway, but compared to the rest of the show - especially season two, they are just not quite as brilliant as the rest.

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This is the only show where I don’t skip the opening credits so I am listening to the theme 3 or 4 times a night at the moment. I obviously knew that Jesse Armstrong had written Peep Show but I hadn’t been aware until last night that he also wrote what I think is the best episode of Black Mirror, “The Entire History of You”. Talented guy.

 

There was a member of this forum who used to have a signature that said “Watch Breaking Bad, Watch Breaking Bad, Watch Breakining Bad”. Tempted to do the same for this - it’s that good.

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18 hours ago, Mercury said:

This is the only show where I don’t skip the opening credits so I am listening to the theme 3 or 4 times a night at the moment. I obviously knew that Jesse Armstrong had written Peep Show but I hadn’t been aware until last night that he also wrote what I think is the best episode of Black Mirror, “The Entire History of You”. Talented guy.

 

There was a member of this forum who used to have a signature that said “Watch Breaking Bad, Watch Breaking Bad, Watch Breakining Bad”. Tempted to do the same for this - it’s that good.


Jesse Armstrong is one of the UK's unsung geniuses. He wrote the best Black Mirror by a mile.

Its really clear which episodes of this he had a hand in, and the ones where the americans took over. I love this show, but boy does it go awry often...

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4 hours ago, kerraig UK said:


Jesse Armstrong is one of the UK's unsung geniuses. He wrote the best Black Mirror by a mile.

Its really clear which episodes of this he had a hand in, and the ones where the americans took over. I love this show, but boy does it go awry often...

 

Nah, it's gold throughout.

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16 hours ago, Timmo said:

 

Nah, it's gold throughout.


I thought season 2 was a massive drop off personally. Padded. And most of all, the characters all act incredibly stupidly and betray themselves often. Still a great show but it was nowhere near as strong as season 1.

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4 minutes ago, kerraig UK said:


I thought season 2 was a massive drop off personally. Padded. And most of all, the characters all act incredibly stupidly and betray themselves often. Still a great show but it was nowhere near as strong as season 1.

Season 2's twice as good as Season 1. And isn't it literally the point that the characters are stupid and betray themselves?

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29 minutes ago, BitterToad said:

Season 2's twice as good as Season 1. And isn't it literally the point that the characters are stupid and betray themselves?

My feelings exactly, season one is merely just very good, while season two is fucking amazing from beginning to end.

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Im rewatching S1 and after Toms bachelor party when Connor asks him aboy swallowing his own load and Tom says:

 

" its like i didnt cheat because my sperm never left my body like a closed loop system" :lol:

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5 hours ago, Isaac said:

Season 2 is where the show really takes off and explores its themes in more depth, it's by no means worse than season 1 - it's where the show really becomes a masterpiece.


Season 2 is where the characters become slaves to the themes and events. Its a huge fall from grace. They all act like the same idiot, not even different idiots, just the same idiot, waiting for the next plot point to direct them.

I enjoyed it, but it won't age well. 

I also remember people telling me "Game of Thrones season 7 is amazing, you loon!"

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  • 5 weeks later...

Finished Season 2 last night and it is up there with the best season finales. I loved the parallels between the opening scene of Ep1 and closing scene of Ep10 with Kendall being taken to do a press conference he didn’t want to do but with very different outcomes. I also love how Gregg has changed this season - the bit in the last episode with him talking about the Rose not being his favourite champagne showing how much he has been seduced. In a show full of outstanding performances, Brian Cox and Jeremy Strong really have nailed it this season. Can’t wait for the next one.

 

PS - the Kendall rap scene will stay with me forever.

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Some scenes are very The Thick Of It-esque where it looks like the actors have been improvising it or are rolling off eachothers lines. Its so ace.

 

I feel so sorry for Shivs husband Tom :(

Shes so sexy but shes really ashitting on him emotionally.

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Finished season 1. Incredible stuff, so many great performances. I can't remember the last time I was so engrossed in a series. 

 

 

It's really interesting reading US critics who didn't seem to immediately get what this is for a few episodes (in some cases, at all). It's the specifically British-style satire/cringe DNA that they are very unfamiliar with outside of the somewhat watered down version of it that is Veep, so didn't pick up right away, I guess? If you're expecting a straightfoward prestige drama I suppose you'd be unsure what to make of it. 

 

I saw one professional critic who said Billions was similar but far better, ffs :hmm:

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I'm almost in awe at how great this is. It goes from

 

the broken shambling husk of Kendall destroying his pet project for the love of his domineering, dismissive and manipulative father.. to a brilliant punchline that involves the words 'techno gatsby'.

 

 

That should not be possible but it works so well. Brilliant writing and acting. 

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4 hours ago, deerokus said:

I'm almost in awe at how great this is. It goes from

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the broken shambling husk of Kendall destroying his pet project for the love of his domineering, dismissive and manipulative father.. to a brilliant punchline that involves the words 'techno gatsby'.

 

 

That should not be possible but it works so well. Brilliant writing and acting. 


Yeah it’s fucking fantastic!

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The main cast have done a really interesting and funny interview with Variety, well worth watching, but there are story spoilers, so only watch if you are upto date with the show:

 

 

Edit, just realised with is from June, apologies if already posted. Not sure why this has only now popped up in my feed.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Strong work at the Emmys:

 

Outstanding Drama Series

Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series

Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series

OUtstanding Directing for a Drama Series

Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series

 

And Jeremy Strong won Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series

 

 

He's adorably serious and earnest :wub: I also love his ridiculous neckerchief.

 

Waiting for the next season is unbearable

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Very late to the party but finally got round to watching over past few weeks and finished the second season last night. 
 

Excellent television. Wasn’t sure we were going to stick it due to the ridiculous levels of anxiety it caused! You kind of get mostly inured to it...except when you don’t. 
 

Spoiler

It was a brave decision having Logan incapacitated for a lot of the first season and it might have been more interesting to have more time with him and have him incapacitated later on to see how the characters behaved in the power vacuum with more context. 
 

I loved the show but Logan kind of becomes this evil caricature where you have to wonder how far people really would be willing to go for him. Holly Hunter was amazing in this I thought and it was a little disappointing to see how quickly and easily the family dealt with her as she seemed to be able to hold her own for a while there. 
 

Also a little weird that Marcia was so quickly frozen out. From uber Machiavellian manoeuvres to losing control over a couple of episodes didn’t feel right. One of the shows strengths is also a weakness - it  moves at a fair old clip. Big issues come up and are resolved in the same episode and it can sometimes feel a little rushed. 
 

Loved the ending. Sounds odd but I really don’t buy Brian Cox’s interpretation! Logan I feel manipulates constantly and these occasional reflections about him being a good catholic boy and not being responsible come across as blatant bullshit of someone who is convincing themselves of innocence. He clearly wanted Ken in a vulnerable state without support from his girlfriend so he could stick him with the blood sacrifice. Kendall is the same person completely in thrall to his father and by becoming ‘a killer’ he probably feels this is the best way to gain his father’s affection.

 

 

Anyway, I’ll stop blathering on now. Fantastic show and demonstrates to me that the best television is all about the characters. This and Ozark are top tier for me in this regard. 

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