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On 23/04/2020 at 10:05, grindmouse said:

 

 

 

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Fucking hell I just watched this. He just ripped off GOT haha.

 

Also, I'm so glad I didn't watch STD Season 2.

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2 hours ago, HarMGM said:

Remember when we all thought Damon Lindelof was the worst thing to come out of the Abrams group? 

 

I think it's gone through all of them by now:

 

"Lindelof screwed up Lost and Prometheus and STID and Tomorrowland! (No wait The Leftovers and Watchmen were good, we like him now.)"

 

"Roberto Orci is a 9/11 truther obsessed with putting false flag plots in everything he writes!"

 

"JJ Abrams can't do endings!"

 

"Kurtzman has messed up every Star Trek thing he's touched!"

 

 

Greg Grunberg should be very worried. :twisted:

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Caught Star Trek Beyond last night on channel 4 and you know what? It had more fun, exciting action sequences that made good use of their fictional technology, and much better use of soft continuity than anything in Discovery or Picard. And it had that lovely line from Scotty where he literally spells out "Starfleet is not a military organisation". Rather impressed tbh!

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2 hours ago, Nick R said:

 

I think it's gone through all of them by now:

 

"Lindelof screwed up Lost and Prometheus and STID and Tomorrowland! (No wait The Leftovers and Watchmen were good, we like him now.)"

 

"Roberto Orci is a 9/11 truther obsessed with putting false flag plots in everything he writes!"

 

"JJ Abrams can't do endings!"

 

"Kurtzman has messed up every Star Trek thing he's touched!"

 

 

Greg Grunberg should be very worried. :twisted:

Rick Berman must be laughing his arse off.

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19 hours ago, Death's Head said:

Caught Star Trek Beyond last night on channel 4 and you know what? It had more fun, exciting action sequences that made good use of their fictional technology, and much better use of soft continuity than anything in Discovery or Picard. And it had that lovely line from Scotty where he literally spells out "Starfleet is not a military organisation". Rather impressed tbh!

 

Beyond i s proper fun and more Trek than the reboot and the hideous Into Darkness.

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4 hours ago, Gordzilla said:

 

Beyond is a proper fun and more Trek than the reboot and the hideous Into Darkness.

 

Beyond literally makes no sense, but it's a decent romp, sure.

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I was only thinking yesterday how much better the reboot movies are than this trash (let alone Discovery). I know that there aren't too many fans of them on here (particularly ITD) but I love all three of them.

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I've just stumbled upon some gold. Apparently CBS wanted to shit on Picard for male privilege. Yes guys, you heard it here. The paragon of ethics Jean-Luc, in a time where discrimination against race and sex is unheard of (at least in the federation) is to be shit on for male white privilege, to make some bullshit critique on current society :doh:

You frickin mongs

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Was on the toilet this morning and burst out laughing that it’s now canon that Picard is a 

Spoiler

robot with no discernible advantages over a regular old man. 


How can you see that as your end state for a character and think

 

“yeah that’s great stuff.....ctrl and SAVE!”

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9 hours ago, IcEBuRN said:

I've just stumbled upon some gold. Apparently CBS wanted to shit on Picard for male privilege. Yes guys, you heard it here. The paragon of ethics Jean-Luc, in a time where discrimination against race and sex is unheard of (at least in the federation) is to be shit on for male white privilege, to make some bullshit critique on current society :doh:

You frickin mongs

 

Mongs? This isn't 1981.

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16 hours ago, IcEBuRN said:

I've just stumbled upon some gold. Apparently CBS wanted to shit on Picard for male privilege. Yes guys, you heard it here. The paragon of ethics Jean-Luc, in a time where discrimination against race and sex is unheard of (at least in the federation) is to be shit on for male white privilege, to make some bullshit critique on current society :doh:

You frickin mongs

 

I don't know who told you that's what the story in the link was about, but you might want to actually read it.

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The Plinkett review lost me early on when he’d been waffling about possible, alternate plot lines for around three minutes, and they were becoming less funny with each one. 

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It's worth sticking with, as he has great fun pointing out the plot holes. One I had missed (as you don't know this at the time) was that the Romulans decided to stage their false flag operation to destroy the colony that was making their own rescue ships! Boss move, that.

Also has a good choice of clips, he manages to line Seven's 'catfight' it up with a pratically blow for blow identical girl fight in discovery.

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26 minutes ago, SozzlyJoe said:

It's worth sticking with, as he has great fun pointing out the plot holes. One I had missed (as you don't know this at the time) was that the Romulans decided to stage their false flag operation to destroy the colony that was making their own rescue ships! Boss move, that.

Also has a good choice of clips, he manages to line Seven's 'catfight' it up with a pratically blow for blow identical girl fight in discovery.

 

Is there a version with just the few minutes worth watching? 

Anyone got links to highlights?

It's an hour and a half! Of that voice.

 

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48 minutes ago, Garibaldi said:

The Plinkett review lost me early on when he’d been waffling about possible, alternate plot lines for around three minutes, and they were becoming less funny with each one. 

Yeah, I almost bailed then but pushed on through and quit not long after a joke about whether robopicard was given a bigger cock than human Picard. I love RLM when they're ripping shows to pieces, not making nob jokes.

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On 21/05/2020 at 07:37, IcEBuRN said:

I've just stumbled upon some gold. Apparently CBS wanted to shit on Picard for male privilege. Yes guys, you heard it here. The paragon of ethics Jean-Luc, in a time where discrimination against race and sex is unheard of (at least in the federation) is to be shit on for male white privilege, to make some bullshit critique on current society :doh:

https://intl.startrek.com/news/the-humbling-of-admiral-picard

 

23 hours ago, Alex W. said:

 

I don't know who told you that's what the story in the link was about, but you might want to actually read it.

 

Yeah, it's a neat summary about what I loved about Picard.

 

The Federation believe that they are perfect even as they turn inwards and Picard who many viewer (and his own character) would consider himself great finds out a great deal about himself. While it's true that he had intelligence, with and grace in his prime he also hadn't realised that there was a lot of invisible privilege behind him. A powerful ship, hundreds of specialists at his beck and call, the weight and support of the Federation (most of the time) behind him, even the odd god.

 

The prime example quoted



Not being relevant is the ultimate slap in the face for high-profile people used to calling the shots. Picard is visibly bothered when a Starfleet receptionist asks for his name when he arrives for his meeting with Admiral Clancy. She, too, takes him down a peg, calling out his “sheer, fucking hubris” for even showing up with a request for reassignment, calling his Tal Shiar conspiracy theory, “the delusions of a once-great man desperate to matter.” 

Ironically, Picard seems to have thought that asking for temporary reinstatement, a skeleton crew and a low-class ship was an act of humility.

 

Some find it difficult to understand why the Federation wouldn't just give him what he wanted but can you imagine going back to an old workplace years after you'd resigned and asking to be given an office and a few staff? You'd be laughed out of the building if not escorted out.

 

I was really disappointed in the endgame and in the plot holes of Picard but I loved the exploration of him past his prime and stripped of all his assumed support wandering the galaxy like a space age Don Quixote.

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Even if you don't like how the show turned out, you have to be taking a pretty strange angle on it show to conclude that Picard's humbling is an SJW plot from above and not the most obvious theme you'd do for a show about a Starfleet admiral who hears the call to adventure again. They got six TOS movies and Generations out of Kirk's SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS.

 

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On 21/05/2020 at 16:52, Papaya Dance said:

Yeah, I almost bailed then but pushed on through and quit not long after a joke about whether robopicard was given a bigger cock than human Picard. I love RLM when they're ripping shows to pieces, not making nob jokes.


It’s shortly after that that he rips the whole things to shreds. 
 

Stick with it, it’s wonderfully cathartic. 

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The finale really is like a plaster on a hairy arm. It’s there, it’s not going away and sooner or later you just have to get it over with and move on with your life. 

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3 hours ago, MK-1601 said:

Those videos are such "magic xylophone" wank.


I had to google your reference there (surely some kind of irony itself?) and while I agree to an extent, it doesn’t negate the point. 
 

And that’s Stark Trek’s fault - it painted itself into a corner. And then painted the corner. But that’s what is so beloved about it. One makes a Star Trek show without doing the proper due diligence at one’s peril. 

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