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Star Trek: Picard - Just one more season to go, and then we can forget this all happened and watch TNG instead


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48 minutes ago, Garibaldi said:

The Plinkett review lost me early on when he’d been waffling about possible, alternate plot lines for around three minutes, and they were becoming less funny with each one. 

Yeah, I almost bailed then but pushed on through and quit not long after a joke about whether robopicard was given a bigger cock than human Picard. I love RLM when they're ripping shows to pieces, not making nob jokes.

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On 21/05/2020 at 07:37, IcEBuRN said:

I've just stumbled upon some gold. Apparently CBS wanted to shit on Picard for male privilege. Yes guys, you heard it here. The paragon of ethics Jean-Luc, in a time where discrimination against race and sex is unheard of (at least in the federation) is to be shit on for male white privilege, to make some bullshit critique on current society :doh:

https://intl.startrek.com/news/the-humbling-of-admiral-picard

 

23 hours ago, Alex W. said:

 

I don't know who told you that's what the story in the link was about, but you might want to actually read it.

 

Yeah, it's a neat summary about what I loved about Picard.

 

The Federation believe that they are perfect even as they turn inwards and Picard who many viewer (and his own character) would consider himself great finds out a great deal about himself. While it's true that he had intelligence, with and grace in his prime he also hadn't realised that there was a lot of invisible privilege behind him. A powerful ship, hundreds of specialists at his beck and call, the weight and support of the Federation (most of the time) behind him, even the odd god.

 

The prime example quoted



Not being relevant is the ultimate slap in the face for high-profile people used to calling the shots. Picard is visibly bothered when a Starfleet receptionist asks for his name when he arrives for his meeting with Admiral Clancy. She, too, takes him down a peg, calling out his “sheer, fucking hubris” for even showing up with a request for reassignment, calling his Tal Shiar conspiracy theory, “the delusions of a once-great man desperate to matter.” 

Ironically, Picard seems to have thought that asking for temporary reinstatement, a skeleton crew and a low-class ship was an act of humility.

 

Some find it difficult to understand why the Federation wouldn't just give him what he wanted but can you imagine going back to an old workplace years after you'd resigned and asking to be given an office and a few staff? You'd be laughed out of the building if not escorted out.

 

I was really disappointed in the endgame and in the plot holes of Picard but I loved the exploration of him past his prime and stripped of all his assumed support wandering the galaxy like a space age Don Quixote.

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Even if you don't like how the show turned out, you have to be taking a pretty strange angle on it show to conclude that Picard's humbling is an SJW plot from above and not the most obvious theme you'd do for a show about a Starfleet admiral who hears the call to adventure again. They got six TOS movies and Generations out of Kirk's SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS.

 

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On 21/05/2020 at 16:52, Papaya Dance said:

Yeah, I almost bailed then but pushed on through and quit not long after a joke about whether robopicard was given a bigger cock than human Picard. I love RLM when they're ripping shows to pieces, not making nob jokes.


It’s shortly after that that he rips the whole things to shreds. 
 

Stick with it, it’s wonderfully cathartic. 

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3 hours ago, MK-1601 said:

Those videos are such "magic xylophone" wank.


I had to google your reference there (surely some kind of irony itself?) and while I agree to an extent, it doesn’t negate the point. 
 

And that’s Stark Trek’s fault - it painted itself into a corner. And then painted the corner. But that’s what is so beloved about it. One makes a Star Trek show without doing the proper due diligence at one’s peril. 

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4 hours ago, Popo said:


I had to google your reference there (surely some kind of irony itself?) and while I agree to an extent, it doesn’t negate the point. 
 

And that’s Stark Trek’s fault - it painted itself into a corner. And then painted the corner. But that’s what is so beloved about it. One makes a Star Trek show without doing the proper due diligence at one’s peril. 

 

I agree, sometimes it's lazy and sloppy writing. But some of it is just pedantry. Yeah, they didn't swear on a show you watched at teatime 35 years ago. Yeah, phasers don't literally have triggers, but making a line not sound awkward and stupid always wins. Yeah, someone writing a TV show to a deadline isn't going to check every line to make sure it doesn't contradict a throwaway 'culture shock' joke in hundreds of hours of TV/films.

 

If TNG treated TOS as set in stone it would have been terrible, see most of series 1. Picard and Discovery are bad but expanding that universe beyond the narrow lens of the most elite ship and crew in starfleet isn't why.

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On 11/12/2020 at 19:49, Nick R said:

What does it means for Starfleet, for example, that someone like Oh was allowed to rise through the ranks unimpeded, spreading her bigoted, violent poison to underlings and fellow leaders alike?

 

I don't think she's watched much Star Trek.

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6 minutes ago, makkuwata said:

 

He signed on knowing he was an old man and they outlined a three season arc. :quote:

 

I've already seen the best work that Patrick Stewart is ever going to do as Picard; I don't imagine I'll be missing much. Having suffered through one season of this joy-sucking, badly-plotted, poorly-conceived dreck, I'm not about to put myself through it again.

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