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Star Trek: Picard - Third time's the charm!


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8 hours ago, Hexx said:

There's something very odd about the hardcore discovery defenders.

 

Like if you don't like it. It must be because you're against what you perceive as "woke" or you must hate people think are "SJW"s. Basically if you don't like it, it's because you're an alt-right incel troll gamon sterotype and it's just joked about in a smug fashion.

 

 

DS9 is my favourite trek series with its **checks notes** incredibly (especially for the time) positive portrayal of a single black father who also happens to be in a high level position of importance and authority.

 

I also think Discovery is a pile of shite.

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7 hours ago, drmick said:

 

I was going to post that those diversity characters actually do a disservice to equality because they are written as somehow neurotic or lacking confidence. But then I realised that the entire cast is written that way really.

 

Also, the non-binary character becoming essestially a family member with a gay couple is looking pretty ropey after all the LG no B and definitely no T stuff of recent months.

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17 hours ago, Benny said:

 

Embracing diversity all the way down to having Space Hitler an important part of the crew.

 

Also, the crew murderizing everyone with disintegrators every other episode. We come in peace, shoot to kill etc

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22 hours ago, Lorfarius said:

 

They've already filmed season 3 as its meant to be the last. They did them in a single batch probably because of his advancing years.


That would explain why Stewart looks permenantly knackered in his role. 

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On 06/04/2022 at 23:10, drmick said:

 

I was going to post that those diversity characters actually do a disservice to equality because they are written as somehow neurotic or lacking confidence. But then I realised that the entire cast is written that way really.

 

It feels like the writers wrote the characters to be like what they imagine the fans to be. Irritating but necessary.

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"you know your voice does this funny little thing when you say her name?"

 

No it doesn't.

 

Jurati picked the wrong dress for this, Christ.

 

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Wait what. "He's flatlining"

 

He's a fucking robot.

 

Oh no, are they going to suggests the Watchers came up with the Prime Directive?

 

"Who's watching the Watchers". Really? :lol:

 

This is the worst thing an Astronaut should be doing a few hours before quarantine surely? Drinking and partying?

 

Borg is so not being a Borg. Eurgh.

 

Fate of the universe at stake and these pricks are enjoying themselves.

 

Rafi lecturing Rios about time fuckery is a bit rich.

 

"She does seem to check her mobile device quite a bit". I'm sorry are they from the future or the past, I'm confused.

 

Honestly if that astronaut is drinking themselves under the table do you really think they should still go on the mission Picard? Come on.

 

Borg Jurati is surprisingly tedious.

 

Zzz.

 

Pat Stew and Brent Spiner scene is so fucking weird. Also this whole X minutes earlier stuff is it supposed to create a sense of urgency because it doesn't.

 

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Okay last post honestly.

 

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Picard is so fucking patronising to this woman. She's an astronaut for fucks sake.

 

Are they trying to discuss dealing with depression here? Do they even understand what depression is?

 

That musical number, I can't get it out of my head, it was so short it was like they didn't want to commit to it fully as they had other utter nonsense to spray at you across your living room.

 

"I know someone". Yes we know, you were just talking to them about her earlier. Oh so that's why he had to meet a doctor for the plot. Right. Okay

 

What is even going on. Soong is now a villain out of nowhere. You want to stop the astronaut? Get a gun or something. This is America.

 

Is Picard like, a Replicant style robot or something? Do they think we'll just pretend that robot stuff never happened? The characters reference stuff from the last season so...

 

Lol now we get an explanation for why Soji looks like Soji I guess if it's a series of robot clones and the robot one is the last in a long line.

 

Did they all forget Picard is a robot too? Also, he's an old man who got hit by a car, give him a few hours yeah?

 

Oh look the Watcher has wibbly mind diving powers for plot reasons. Picard knows about as much about Q as the rest of Starfleet so what is the purpose of this again? They're just going to forget Jurati exists? Is this real? Am I real? That was 38 minutes long but felt like I've been trapped in a Chief O'Brian mind purgatory for a year

 

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I just accidentally squirted hotsauce all over myself and that was a similarly enjoyable distraction by comparison (even if it has made the laundry a bit more fiddly).

 

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There are, unsurprisingly, many issues I could pick at with this ep, but I cant be arsed and I'm sure you lot will address them, so I'll just focus on one.

 

This whole 'pseudo-assimilated' jurati thing.

Ok, from a technological level I suppose you could justify it by saying that she just has a few nanites containing the queens consciousness swimming around in her head slowly rewriting neural pathways and conducting psychological warfare as it does so. Fair enough.

 

However, if this was something the borg could do, maybe they would have faired a bit better against starfleet by using some long-term espionage rather than just trying to steamroller them with brute force? For a species that is all about assimilation and adaptation it makes their strategic thinking look a bit one-note.

 

 

In fairness though, re picard:

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I thought in series one the fancy new body was so advanced that it was effectively indistinguisable from a real body aside from the super-strength etc (so yeah, like a replicant), but then they said they'd deliberately nerfed it when putting picard in it so that he'd be at about the same level he'd normally be, vulnerabilities and all, for the sake of giving him a normal life?

 

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To be vaguely positive:

 

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I thought the Soong reveal was, in the context of this show, actually not bad - it was telegraphed just enough by the committee scenes the previous episode, and fits with what we know of some of the Soong family. What if Q is just bluffing over Renée and Soong is his real target?

 

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55 minutes ago, Harsin said:

Watching this and Halo before Severance is like rooting around in a bin for half eaten eclairs before being escorted into a 5 star restaurant. 

 

I'm going to start re-watching Better Call Saul so it'll be like being given my own personal sushi chef afterwards.

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Re:Picard's body

 

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Isn't this now an alternate timeline - so presumably he's fully human as S1 never "happened" (oh how we all wish that were true).

 

So he's back to his biological body that...didn't succumb to a hereditary disease at the same age for some reason in the DARK TIMELINE? 

 

The thing I've noticed and now can't stop being annoyed about

 

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When we met Q in episode 1 he turned up looking like 90s John De Lancie. Presumably as an immortal being he doesn't age. He then chooses to "catch up" to Picard to look like they've both aged.

 

So why is this Q in the past (presumably just before episode 1 from his perspective? maybe? or maybe even earlier) OLD LIKE HE MADE HIMSELF LOOK FOR PICARD

 

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Bit unsure if I should start watching this. What do you think?

 

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I'm joking. I get how patronising, lazy, fan servicey, derivitive and all the other bad things this series is.

 

Why do we need 'new Trek'? Oh yeah, real world licensing. Nothing spoils the fun more than the licensing police.

 

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Fast forwarded through the

 

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musical number. I didn't want to believe it was happening at first.

 

The way the opportunity to explore the post-TNG story has been so completely squandered is beyond exasperating. There must be an army of good writers out there that would've fought tooth and nail to write for Star Trek but somehow we're watching this disaster instead.

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I've given up. Not bothered with the last few episodes.

 

Genuinely gutted how it has turned out. I was so excited when it was first announced. :( 

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