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May I ask why you want a laptop? I bought a HP omen earlier this year, about 700 quid, regretted it after a few months. It couldn’t run most newer games to a satisfactory level, was hot and noisy as fuck.

Your paying a shit ton more than a desktop counterpart with inferior performance. 

 

Luckily I sold it on for minimal loss but would never get one again. Each to their own and obviously it’s your money to spend, just thought I’d let you know my own experience 

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maybe i should have give it a go through pc specialist. I went with the asus laptop above and my boss let me buy it through his company so no vat ended up with the laptop, gaming mouse and carry case all for £1030 so happy days. So far so good with the asus laptop but want to know ..... When running the laptop with games the cpu runs at 3.9ghz and also when sitting idle in the desktop its still runs at 3.9 ghz. Should the clock speed drop when not needing the overclock? or is that normal for the new i7 chips?

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1 hour ago, carlospie said:

May I ask why you want a laptop? I bought a HP omen earlier this year, about 700 quid, regretted it after a few months. It couldn’t run most newer games to a satisfactory level, was hot and noisy as fuck.

Your paying a shit ton more than a desktop counterpart with inferior performance. 

 

Luckily I sold it on for minimal loss but would never get one again. Each to their own and obviously it’s your money to spend, just thought I’d let you know my own experience 

i have lost my gaming room now having a second child and no were to put a big rig so laptop gaming is the only option i have haha bloody kids eh

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15 hours ago, Jonnycash said:

When running the laptop with games the cpu runs at 3.9ghz and also when sitting idle in the desktop its still runs at 3.9 ghz. Should the clock speed drop when not needing the overclock? or is that normal for the new i7 chips?

 

Absolutely not normal for any modern CPU to do that, they should ramp down to whatever the lowest clock is when idle. What tool are you using to monitor the internal sensors?

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Actually if you have it set to the full performance profile, that might force it to run at max clocks all the time, you can check in the advanced settings option (which is oh so helpfully hidden behind multiple menus on Windows 10).

 

I'd be curious to see what temps you get and what the clocks are when you stress test it, which is usually worth doing just to make sure it isn't going to die prematurely because it's better to kill it early, rather than when the guarantee period is over.

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19 minutes ago, mushashi said:

Actually if you have it set to the full performance profile, that might force it to run at max clocks all the time, you can check in the advanced settings option (which is oh so helpfully hidden behind multiple menus on Windows 10).

 

I'd be curious to see what temps you get and what the clocks are when you stress test it, which is usually worth doing just to make sure it isn't going to die prematurely because it's better to kill it early, rather than when the guarantee period is over.

which stress test would you do ?

and thanks for the help 

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The usual ones are Furmark or Kombuster (which is based on Furmark) for the GPU, and if you like torture, Prime95 for the CPU or AIDA64 if you want to be less mean on it.

 

Both Prime95 and Furmark at the same time if you want to see if it falls over or spontaneously shuts down due to the power brick not being good enough... ;) not that I've ever experienced that before...

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Sounds about right for that setup, tried killing it yet? I'd use HWinfo and GPU-Z to monitor the sensors, they show a lot of extra tracking information. You probably also need XTU to see if they've power limited the CPU.

 

And I'll assume the Asus also has Optimus if you don't have a G-SYNC screen, my commiserations.

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It's the crap technology that Nvidia invented to save battery life at the expense of giving you a worse gaming experience and you can't turn the bloody thing off unless you bought a G-SYNC capable laptop as they can't work together so only in that instance are they forced to allow you to switch it off, the AMD equivalent is called Enduro the last time I heard about it.

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G-SYNC fixes screen tearing which bothers a lot of people, so when your performance drops, you don't notice it nearly as much, if at all. It works by physically altering the screen refresh rate within a certain range, it's also better than the free AMD alternative.

 

It's great for all the games that can't maintain the update refresh rate of the screen, which is usually 60Hz or FPS, as they are practically the same thing in practice.

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4 hours ago, mushashi said:

G-SYNC fixes screen tearing which bothers a lot of people, so when your performance drops, you don't notice it nearly as much, if at all. It works by physically altering the screen refresh rate within a certain range, it's also better than the free AMD alternative.

 

It's great for all the games that can't maintain the update refresh rate of the screen, which is usually 60Hz or FPS, as they are practically the same thing in practice.

Must say thanks for answering all my questions you have been very helpful.

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This video tutorial is probably relevant to your interests, the guy knows his stuff, anybody who can strip down some of the nightmare design consumer laptops and put them back together again gains my respect:

 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Jonnycash said:

The ASUS  is a 120hz monitor and I haven’t noticed any screen tearing

 

You must have V-SYNC on or you are very fortunate to not be bothered by it :)

 

The downsides of V-SYNC is that if your system can't push out the required number of unique frames per second (or a steady divisible fraction of the current screen refresh rate), you will encounter horrible input lag and slowdown in the worst cases.

 

Variable Refresh Rate technologies like G-SYNC/FreeSync and VRR give you the best of both worlds as they allow the display to alter in realtime the refresh rate to match the current output framerate of the system (within a certain range) so you get the best of both worlds, no screen tearing and no horrible input lag/slowdown when the system can't cope.

 

It's a perfect fix for all those console ports which you can't keep at a rock solid 60fps (120fps is probably not going to happen with most of them).

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