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5 minutes ago, SeanR said:


ah’m oot...

 

You've adjusted to the lag of a non CRT/general online multiplayer. I'm sure there'll be games/situations where this is acceptable.

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I tried Halo 5 first, and although the lag wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be, I kept getting sound glitches, and trying to spot enemies on a tiny phone screen isn't particularly easy.

 

 So switched to Tales of Vesperia and it was just like playing on a console. Really impressive.

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Still waiting for my cheap controller clip to arrive from China before giving this a go. 

 

Are there still only 5 games to choose from?

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Is console streaming basically PS4 remote play? And if so, is it any better than that?

 

I signed up to try to get into the xCloud beta yesterday. Hopefully I'll get in but will have to use my wife's phone. Annoying that they don't support iOS yet.

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3 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

Is console streaming basically PS4 remote play?

 

Not really, that's more equivalent to the Xbox SmartGlass stuff, where you were using your console to stream to a phone, this modern streaming thing is from datacentres.

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4 minutes ago, RubberJohnny said:

 

Not really, that's more equivalent to the Xbox SmartGlass stuff, where you were using your console to stream to a phone, this modern streaming thing is from datacentres.

 

I think Xbox Console Streaming is streaming from your own Xbox. xCloud is from Stadia like streaming.

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How come this seems to be getting a bit of praise, but Stadia is being slated? They’re using the same technology, aren’t they?

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The technology works, the issues are more with the business model (and missing features).

 

Stadia launched with 20 odd games for up to $60 each - that you need to pay $10 a month to play.

 

Xcloud is currently free and has 50 games to play.

 

 

 

 

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@JPL at a guess:

 

Its a proper beta, you have to apply and started with 3 games, has now got 50.

they are being open that its not ready for consumers yet.

Its free, just have to be an XBL subscriber.  the xcloud pricing hasnt been announced.

Microsoft have put a lot of work into regional datacentres so i suspect this will help the feel of it.

Its only a compliment to their whole gaming offering. 

 

ive no idea, im on iOS so patiently waiting to try it! 

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16 minutes ago, JPL said:

How come this seems to be getting a bit of praise, but Stadia is being slated? They’re using the same technology, aren’t they?

 

I think part of the problem is Stadia has been released unfinished with missing features and a ridiculous pricing model for games.  Combined with poor image quality (Destiny 2 1080p medium settings upscaled to 4k).  The product being shipped does not equal the promises made by Google.

 

On the other hand MS has been quite cautious about X-Cloud.  Even at X019 Phil Spencer said it will take years for the technology to get there.  As an additional feature X-Cloud compliments owing a physical Xbox - especially now it will be tied into Games Pass.

 

I've yet to try Stadia, but I did get into X-Cloud's preview this week and was impressed at what it is achieving in this early state.

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The idea of having an Xbox at home for 4k 75" goodness and a pad on my desk for a few Forza races streamed on my phone is very compelling. Saves are all in the cloud so I'm playing the same games.

 

Its even more convenient than the Switch.

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@fattakin @replicant Yeah, I know MS are handling it better and pitching it as complementary to their consoles, but I was more asking about the tech and why a lot of people seem to be complaining about the lag with Stadia, but saying it’s not too bad on xCloud.

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34 minutes ago, fattakin said:

@JPL at a guess:

 

the xcloud pricing hasnt been announced.

 

 

All games you own and all gamepass games will be included and accessible under your gamepass subscription.

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9 minutes ago, Mr Tony said:

 

All games you own and all gamepass games will be included and accessible under your gamepass subscription.

 

The cost to *use*/*run* things on xcloud hasn't been announced.

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5 minutes ago, footle said:

 

The cost to *use*/*run* things on xcloud hasn't been announced.

 

I'm pretty certain they announced it was included in gamepass on X019.

 

Edit:

 

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/14/20964434/microsoft-xcloud-preview-ps4-controller-windows-10-support-2020

"Microsoft is planning to integrate Project xCloud with Xbox Game Pass next year, allowing players to stream games from the company’s subscription service direct from the cloud."

 

So integrated in some way or another, but not announced how. 

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36 minutes ago, Mr Tony said:

 

I'm pretty certain they announced it was included in gamepass on X019.

 

Edit:

 

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/14/20964434/microsoft-xcloud-preview-ps4-controller-windows-10-support-2020

"Microsoft is planning to integrate Project xCloud with Xbox Game Pass next year, allowing players to stream games from the company’s subscription service direct from the cloud."

 

So integrated in some way or another, but not announced how. 


integrated != in the same price.

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23 minutes ago, footle said:


integrated != in the same price.

 

59 minutes ago, Mr Tony said:

So integrated in some way or another, but not announced how. 

 

I had misunderstood the initial announcement, hence that line.

 

Still, wouldn't surprise me if it is something like:

 

Game Pass games: Stream from xcloud with GP sub.

Owned Games: Stream from your console free. (This was specifically mentioned at e3. Stream from your own console over the net free)

Owned Games: Stream from Xcloud with sub.

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9 minutes ago, The Mighty Ash said:

@Mr Tony have you spent much time playing it out of interest?

 

6 or 7 games on gears, played a bit of Forza Horizon 4. F1 2019 wouldn't load for me. I need to give it another shot.

 

I have a 72mb connection that normally sits around 50ish and it seems alright. Sound breaks up a lot, and the stream pixallates a lot too, but when it runs smooth, it's fantastic.

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Jeff G and Spencer spoke about this during their 2nd Nite interview, and Spencer said that Console Streaming (~Switch functionality) is free, but there is going to be some kind of cost to using xCloud.

 

Ive timestamped the moment where they talk about cost

 

 

They also talk about Stadia and Sony a bit, and xCloud on the Switch.

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3 hours ago, The Mighty Ash said:

Xcloud is 720p, Stadia is 4k (ish) - maybe causing more issues.

 

 

 

Presumably MS are planning on closing this though? I mean, if streaming is solely about playing on the bog it's not really that compelling.

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I don't know how much it makes sense to focus on delivering 4K for streaming games. It's bound to lose something in the compression anyway, why not focus instead on better image quality at 1080p? You could do 1080p/HDR for a lot less Mbps.

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The audio lag on this is worse than the video lag. It's doing my head in a bit, but I've not had much of a try on it yet. Seems a polished enough experience as far as actually using it goes so far though, wasn't expecting there to be such a large bunch of playable games (even if I'm not interested in most of what's there) thought it'd just be what I owned or something. 

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